Zack
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Also, where is Smurfette?
[Game thread] Smurf Mafia
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Askthepizzaguy
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unvote the last three chocolates
vote them to Zack instead.
Ninja/azzaman as scumbags at this point?
@ Zack, I haven't completely ruled you out as scum. That's why I don't trust you to protect me.
I trusted Azzaman based on him behaving like a townie. But that was a bad judgment call wasn't it. I can only trust someone I know wasn't doing the JoanK kill to protect me, and the only ones left are robbiecon and Auto.
vote them to Zack instead.
Ninja/azzaman as scumbags at this point?
@ Zack, I haven't completely ruled you out as scum. That's why I don't trust you to protect me.
I trusted Azzaman based on him behaving like a townie. But that was a bad judgment call wasn't it. I can only trust someone I know wasn't doing the JoanK kill to protect me, and the only ones left are robbiecon and Auto.
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I guess we need to hear from robbie and azzaman.
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Where is Smurfette?
With the scum, assuming no one comes forward and goes "I have smurfette".
AFAIK, Smurfette was stolen by scum yesterday.
Azzaman gave me Smurfette, and it was stolen right back that night.
Possibly, Azzaman gave me Smurfette to establish that he was townie. Then they used an opera ticket to steal it right back.
Fortunately, I have JoanK's ticket, who handed it to me last night.
I have considered it, and if JoanK had indicated that he trusted anyone besides Azzaman, I would have given the ticket to that person as requested by JoanK.
Under these circumstances, Joan, I can't do it. And I think I'd have your support.
I'm using the ticket now.
With the scum, assuming no one comes forward and goes "I have smurfette".
AFAIK, Smurfette was stolen by scum yesterday.
Azzaman gave me Smurfette, and it was stolen right back that night.
Possibly, Azzaman gave me Smurfette to establish that he was townie. Then they used an opera ticket to steal it right back.
Fortunately, I have JoanK's ticket, who handed it to me last night.
I have considered it, and if JoanK had indicated that he trusted anyone besides Azzaman, I would have given the ticket to that person as requested by JoanK.
Under these circumstances, Joan, I can't do it. And I think I'd have your support.
I'm using the ticket now.
Zack
99% hot gas
Where is Smurfette?
If you're so sure azzaman is scum, why did he give you the blue chick?
If you're so sure azzaman is scum, why did he give you the blue chick?
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He explained that, to establish himself as town and know where she was to steal her right back.
Zack
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It wasn't revealed in the thread. Who has he killed? Why was there no explosion kill last night?
It was a crosspost. And that was a weaksauce explanation. Why did JoanK give ATPG the ticket?
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Yeah sorry, should have noticed that.
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I tried to come up with any way of me being attacked last night and joanK being attacked last night and neither of us being blocked, and azzaman being blocked, without the following conclusion:
1) Azzaman attacked me (or)
2) Autolycus attacked me
I know Autolycus did not attack JoanK because there was no explosion-based kill.
So who attacked JoanK?
I can cross off Autolycus as being JoanK's killer. Can't do that for Azzaman. Can't cross him off as being my attempted killer either. Can't explain why JoanK is dead without knowing he wasn't there, and he wasn't blocked either.
That's the problem. What would make a mafia abandon all pretense of being a defender of someone? The answer is, if they assume they can wipe out both the doctor and the vig in the same night.
But robbiecon did not roleblock Joan or azzaman. And he didn't fail to send in orders.
That means the only way both myself and JoanK get attacked, and the mafia used TWO attacks, is if....
Fill in the blank _______________
I can't see how Azzaman is not involved. Azzaman has to be involved.
What are the alternatives?
1) Azzaman attacked me (or)
2) Autolycus attacked me
I know Autolycus did not attack JoanK because there was no explosion-based kill.
So who attacked JoanK?
I can cross off Autolycus as being JoanK's killer. Can't do that for Azzaman. Can't cross him off as being my attempted killer either. Can't explain why JoanK is dead without knowing he wasn't there, and he wasn't blocked either.
That's the problem. What would make a mafia abandon all pretense of being a defender of someone? The answer is, if they assume they can wipe out both the doctor and the vig in the same night.
But robbiecon did not roleblock Joan or azzaman. And he didn't fail to send in orders.
That means the only way both myself and JoanK get attacked, and the mafia used TWO attacks, is if....
Fill in the blank _______________
I can't see how Azzaman is not involved. Azzaman has to be involved.
What are the alternatives?
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It's possible the mafia didn't know JoanK was a doctor.
So, they figured they would attack me, even though Azzaman wasn't blocked or dead.
Which is stupid unless Azzaman is mafia in this scenario as well.
And attack JoanK
Which is hard to believe unless Azzaman used the boxing gloves on me and his partner attacked JoanK.
Is it still ***possible***??? Force the explanation....
Autolycus could have attacked me, and the mafia could have attacked JoanK, and Azzaman could be innocent.
But Autolycus would *still* know that I was being protected by Azzaman.
So why is Azzaman
1) Alive, not attacked or blocked last night
2) Not defending JoanK
The mafia came up with either the most brilliant plan ever, or, Azzaman was part of that plan.
So, they figured they would attack me, even though Azzaman wasn't blocked or dead.
Which is stupid unless Azzaman is mafia in this scenario as well.
And attack JoanK
Which is hard to believe unless Azzaman used the boxing gloves on me and his partner attacked JoanK.
Is it still ***possible***??? Force the explanation....
Autolycus could have attacked me, and the mafia could have attacked JoanK, and Azzaman could be innocent.
But Autolycus would *still* know that I was being protected by Azzaman.
So why is Azzaman
1) Alive, not attacked or blocked last night
2) Not defending JoanK
The mafia came up with either the most brilliant plan ever, or, Azzaman was part of that plan.
Zack
99% hot gas
Why? Why do you trust him so much? Based on his in-thread posts, he is a lurking sycophant.
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As revealed previously, he has an item-based explosion-based kill which is distinctly different from the "ripping to shreds" kill.
He cannot be that killer.
I am trying to work out the possibility that he was the one that attacked me, but it still poses the problem: Why would he do that if it was known to everyone reading the game that Azzaman was supposed to have been protecting me last night?
I changed the orders, asked him to protect JoanK.
So the only way I get attacked is if Autolycus is severely not reading the game and blundered into a situation that benefits him, or, Azzaman was responsible for the additional kill, and the lack of protection on JoanK.
If Azza doesn't vote for Autolycus, the only other possible attacker on me, we also know he's full of it.
And he's voting Robbiecon, who was essentially proven townie last night.
Zack
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When, where? All I see is you clearing him because he apparently "revealed a while back" that he has an item-based explosion attack. Who has he attacked? What was he doing last night?
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If I remember correctly, I said I knew who the person was who attacked Zack1, who was killed via explosion.
This was a couple of phases ago by now, I think. Let me dig it up.
Zack
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NIGHT 1:
NIGHT 2:
NIGHT 3:
NIGHT 4:
NIGHT 5:
NIGHT 6:
Either the mafia have no kill, or Auto is mafia. Those are the only options that make sense.
Spoiler :
NIGHT 2:
Spoiler :
NIGHT 3:
Spoiler :
NIGHT 4:
Spoiler :
NIGHT 5:
Spoiler :
NIGHT 6:
Spoiler :
Either the mafia have no kill, or Auto is mafia. Those are the only options that make sense.
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1. Was this Auto- yes, he claimed it.
2. "singed" cracky skin? No, because I have no fire-based kill. I strangle/snap necks.
You're still not reading the N1 kill very carefully.
2. "singed" cracky skin? No, because I have no fire-based kill. I strangle/snap necks.
You're still not reading the N1 kill very carefully.
Zack
99% hot gas
Why were you the only one killing on N2 - N4? And how is "dead in pieces across the room" different from "bloody chunks across the room"?
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Are you suggesting Autolycus counterclaimed the vigilante with a vigilante claim, and I was too dumb to notice?
Worse, are you suggesting that ripped to shreds might mean explosion, not cat claws, as I had been interpreting it....
Zack
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Why did you interpret it as cat claws? Who killed Earthling N1? Why did the mafia wait until Night 5 to kill anyone?
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WHAT does "singed cracky skin" mean.
Could Verarde have done that kill? I utterly don't get this.
THAT one can't have been Auto as he claimed the Zack kill. But I definitely did not do that one, and my other kills show that I kill with a lasso.
Could Verarde have done that kill? I utterly don't get this.
THAT one can't have been Auto as he claimed the Zack kill. But I definitely did not do that one, and my other kills show that I kill with a lasso.
