Senethro
Overlord
Sounds bad.
Have you tried reversing the effects of generations of Apartheid about it?
Genetically Superior Race Based Political Party. Their Own Words
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Sounds bad.
Have you tried reversing the effects of generations of Apartheid about it?
Uncle Paul
Bittereinder
No, but the old flag is banned. A flag is banned, but a song about genocide isn't.
We had a deal. They got political control of the country, in exchange, we got to keep our land and our wealth.
Senethro
Overlord
Thats such an absurdly good and unfair deal that you look petty moaning about some guys and their mean words.
Uncle Paul
Bittereinder
It was a completely fair deal. We had the political power, which they wanted. In exchange for giving it to them, they agreed not to go after our land or wealth.
Senethro
Overlord
If you can't see the problem there already, then I don't believe I can successfully communicate it to you.
They would be, and justly so.
The Maori get away with it, because they are unlikely to ever reach a position where they could become dangerous. In a perfectly just world, they should not be getting away with it, but in the real one, people have priorities.
That said, you come off as someone who isn't angry that they do it, but someone who is angry you can not copy them, which does not elicit much sympathy.
Would it have hindered your interpretation, had the court ruled "it is OK to chant "Kill the Jew"?
You're explicitly demonstrating the double standards @Uncle Paul resents.
I would have expected better of you.
That is abuse of power.
Senethro
Overlord
Dude, you're criticizing me in the second half for kinda doing what you are in the first half??????
Two wrongs do not make a right.
Generations of Apartheid or no, chants "kill the X" are a quintessential hate speech and should be denounced as such, regardless of who or why protests about them. Don't you agree?
EDIT: Moreover, unlike the Maori in NZ, blacks in SA are actually in a position where they could start genocide against whites, if such incitement becomes prevalent, so for a Boer it is hardly a distant or theoretical concern.
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Senethro
Overlord
Well, it looks like you're criticizing your own opinions re: the Maori here, so you tell me?
(Edit: I kinda agree in fact but I'm very unconcerned by it when there is a massive material divide and inequality)
Zardnaar
Deity
Maori Party stance isn't advocating violence.
Bad taste statement imho but that's about it.
Bad taste statement imho but that's about it.
See my edit above.
Genocide is no solution for inequality.
Nor is inequality an excuse for violence when you have political power to remedy it in any other way you choose.
Senethro
Overlord
I agree that violence due to local or general societal breakdown is bad, and I'd think that those most invested in the existence of society (holders of wealth and property) should feel an extra onus in maintaining it.
It would surely be very shortsighted of them to play for keeps.
True, they should be and it would be.
However, ultimate responsibility for how the nation is doing lies with those who hold political power.
DImensiondog
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In Australia mining billionaires hold the power, any time either major party attempts to implement a policy reducing their profits the next election the billionaires fund the other major party win the election by a landslide. The mining industry uses its money to hold onto more power and wealth while the parties don’t want to upset them. What I’m trying to say is wealth and materials lead to a group gaining more power, not necessarily through directly corrupt means
It is one, but generally frowned upon.
