1. We have added a Gift Upgrades feature that allows you to gift an account upgrade to another member, just in time for the holiday season. You can see the gift option when going to the Account Upgrades screen, or on any user profile screen.
    Dismiss Notice

[GS] Geographical Feature Labels

Discussion in 'Civ6 - General Discussions' started by BenZL43, Nov 21, 2018.

  1. Trav'ling Canuck

    Trav'ling Canuck Warlord Supporter

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2018
    Messages:
    2,714
    Gender:
    Male
    A1, A2, …
    B1, B2, …
    C1, C2, ...

    Probably not immersive, huh?
     
  2. Futumch

    Futumch Calm as a Coma

    Joined:
    Dec 27, 2001
    Messages:
    397
    Location:
    142 E 42 S
    Sounds like a game of Battleships, to be honest : )
     
    Trav'ling Canuck likes this.
  3. Kinestic

    Kinestic Chieftain

    Joined:
    Apr 18, 2017
    Messages:
    46
    Gender:
    Male
    For Australia, there are a few I can probably guess.

    Mountains: Snowy Mountains, Great Dividing Range, Blue Mountains

    Deserts: Great Sandy Desert, Little Sandy Desert

    Rivers: The Murray-Darling river, or possibly it's two tributaries, the Murray river, and the Darling river.

    We Australians are a creative bunch, aren't we? :crazyeye:
     
  4. Greywulf

    Greywulf Chieftain

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2008
    Messages:
    749
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Earth
    I would have preferred it if they had called it the Sindh river, like my ancestors called it (I'm Sinti descent), and what it is still called today by the locals.
     
  5. BenZL43

    BenZL43 Physician - still can't spell this correctly.

    Joined:
    Sep 25, 2010
    Messages:
    3,198
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Indonesia
    Yep. Hoped for that as well, but so far Hai, Amur and Tarim river, also Gobi desert and Qinling mountain are located nearest to China than England, Zulu or Indonesia.

    The same case with Limpopo river, which was in southeast of Zulu's capital iirc.

    Maybe it's WIP only for England - which make it a stupid choice to showcase this feature imo.
     
  6. Leyrann

    Leyrann Warlord

    Joined:
    Jan 11, 2015
    Messages:
    3,970
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Netherlands
    I was about to comment that the names were *ahem* very creative, and then you said it already...
     
  7. TomKQT

    TomKQT Chieftain

    Joined:
    Oct 25, 2010
    Messages:
    499
    It's a cool idea that the rivers (or whatever) are named automatically using some real rivers names from the civ and when you discover an already named river, you know that somebody already was there and you can guess the civ.

    But it is hilarious how silly this idea is :) I mean - is the scout who first discovered the river going to put a sign with the name to every few hundred meters of the river banks? :D And using some kind of universal language/writing? Otherwise, how is the second scout supposed to know that the river already has a name :)

    Please - don't take me seriously, I know it's just a game and I love this feature. It's just that I was trying to imagine this in real life and it made me laugh :)
     
  8. Disgustipated

    Disgustipated Warlord

    Joined:
    Nov 14, 2006
    Messages:
    10,842
    Location:
    Las Vegas
    Many names for places in the U.S. came from Native American names. We know because they told us. :) While there are no cities or barb camps necessarily in these areas, I always imagine there are small bands of people living in every non claimed tile on the map. That's where your money goes when you buy a tile, you are buying their land. That's how I like to think of it anyhow. So presumably, these people tell other civilization scouts what the name of the river is. Of course realistically, these small groups of people should have a say on the name of the river. And even nearby barbarian camps should be able to name nearby rivers.
     
    Guandao, WillowBrook and Uberfrog like this.
  9. God of Kings

    God of Kings Ruler of all heads of state

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2012
    Messages:
    5,145
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Toronto, Ontario, Canada
    Australia also has the Gibson Desert and the Simpson Desert, as well as many smaller sub-deserts.
     
    Futumch likes this.
  10. Trav'ling Canuck

    Trav'ling Canuck Warlord Supporter

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2018
    Messages:
    2,714
    Gender:
    Male
    You just need some time. Someone already pointed out that Thames was once the word for river.

    The way Australian English is going, I'm sure it won't be long before Great Sandy Desert sounds like some exotic place name borrowed from the aboriginals. :)
     
    Guandao, Zaarin and Kjimmet like this.
  11. Guandao

    Guandao Rajah of Minyue and Langkasuka

    Joined:
    Mar 30, 2011
    Messages:
    5,386
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    New York City
    I wonder why Firaxis chose Hai, Amur, Tarim Rivers over the Yangtze or Huang He. :confused: Hopefully those two major rivers are in the game.
     
  12. Leyrann

    Leyrann Warlord

    Joined:
    Jan 11, 2015
    Messages:
    3,970
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Netherlands
    Definitely do not quote me on this, as I have no idea if it's etymologically correct, but Rhine actually sounds a lot like a somewhat outdated Dutch word for "clean". So no "river" there. :p
     
    Trav'ling Canuck likes this.
  13. Guandao

    Guandao Rajah of Minyue and Langkasuka

    Joined:
    Mar 30, 2011
    Messages:
    5,386
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    New York City
    Well, the Roman name for the river was Rhenus....way before the Dutch people existed :p
     
    Zaarin and Leyrann like this.
  14. altayrneto

    altayrneto Chieftain

    Joined:
    Mar 21, 2013
    Messages:
    319
    Location:
    Terra Brasilis
    Will this labelling system work with city states? For example, if Babylon starts near a river, it will be called Euphrates, or will be named according the civ which first make contact with them?
     
  15. bite

    bite Unoffical Civilization Geographer Moderator

    Joined:
    Jun 20, 2004
    Messages:
    3,659
    That's actually an interesting question, I'm going to ask the Devs on Twitter
     
  16. bite

    bite Unoffical Civilization Geographer Moderator

    Joined:
    Jun 20, 2004
    Messages:
    3,659
    And according to Ed, City State will not use the geographic label system.
     
    altayrneto likes this.
  17. Zaarin

    Zaarin My Dearest Doctor

    Joined:
    May 14, 2016
    Messages:
    5,470
    Location:
    Terok Nor
    Well, I look forward to the mod that heavily expands these lists, because pretty much any civ is going to have a lot more than three river names available and, depending on how generously we define "mountain," most will have plenty of mountains to choose from, too.

    If every tile is named, no tile is named. /dashparr :p

    Well, that's a shame. I guess, though, Sumer gets the Two Rivers. The question is will they be the Tigris and Euphrates or Idigna and Buranuna (or Idiqlat and Purattu, if we go with Gilgabro's Akkadian)? If they're "Tigris" and "Euphrates," I'm gonna want a mod for that, too. :p

    I bet they're chosen randomly like city names.
     
    Guandao likes this.
  18. God of Kings

    God of Kings Ruler of all heads of state

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2012
    Messages:
    5,145
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Toronto, Ontario, Canada
    At least there's still the Humber, the Don, and the Rouge rivers even if Toronto were still a city-state (since there are other rivers named Humber, Don, and Rouge outside of Canada, such as the River Humber in England, the Don River in Russia, and various rivers named Rouge).
     
    bite likes this.
  19. Boris Gudenuf

    Boris Gudenuf Warlord

    Joined:
    Mar 11, 2012
    Messages:
    1,756
    Location:
    north of Steilacoom, WA
    It would make sense to have a Minimum Size/Length of Feature before it gets a name. So, if a river, regardless of number of branches, is less than, say, 3 tiles long - no name. If, on the other hand, it is 12 tiles long with 2 branches each over 8 tiles long - 3 river names. The length might even vary with the size of the map.
    Likewise, a minimum number of contiguous desert, forest, marsh, mountain, hill, or rainforest tiles would/might be necessary before we get the Gobi, Schwartzwald, Okeefenokee, Grand Tetons, Valdai, or Dark Place (can't remember the original Native American, it's the translation of what they called the Olympic Rain Forest about 100 kilometers from where I sit!)
    Further, I suggest that it would make sense that the minimum size should be slightly Larger than the largest Natural Wonder - keeping the Wonders distinct from the simple Place Names.
     
  20. Trav'ling Canuck

    Trav'ling Canuck Warlord Supporter

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2018
    Messages:
    2,714
    Gender:
    Male
    Yet. That could potentially be an easy tweak, depending on how it's coded. I think City States (and barbarians) are mostly treated the same as major civs.

    I suppose it might reduce the potential to name your nearby territory through early scouting, if City States can name their own territory. Cut it down even more if you let barbarians name their territory …
     

Share This Page