George Soros: the most evil human being since Adolf Stalin

[Kosez]

What evil has he conconcted since 1992? He basically single handedly crashed the entire Malaysian economy and was responsible for the Asian Market crisis in 1997.

I hope you don't really believe what you are saying here. And which left-wing billionaire are we to blame for Argentina crash? Or sub-prime crisis?

 

[Oerdin]

So, Fox "News" robots are constantly going on and on about how George Soros is bad and funding antiFox blogs or *gasp* liberal blogs. Not only Fox "News" but also right wing radio talking robots like Melanie Morgan. I never heard of this guy until Fox "News" robots brought it up.

So why are these goobers so afraid of him? Who the hell is this guy? Hey, you know what this guy really seems like, more than anything else? Goldstein from 1984. It's the popular enemy, whether that enemy has actually done anything (or in the case of Goldstein, if he even exists).

I just took a quick look at Wikipedia's entry for him and Conservapedia's entry for him. Yep, Goldstein.

Soros actually makes some very real and very meaningful investments and charitable donations to help poor people and to encourage democratic progress around the world. He doesn't cow tow to Rupurt Murdoc's world views or the world views of right wing talk radio hosts so those people enjoy attacking Soros for his good works. The problem is the right wingers are full of it.

 

[Part_Time_Civer]

I am sorry, but so far you have shown way too much sanity and reason in your posts to deserve that sort of VIP-treatment.
Also, the Monty Pythonesque style is particulary fitting here, since the one described thus never fail to give me associations to the black knight in Monty Python and the Holy Grail.

Darn. Uhm..George Soros = Hitler = Stalin...maybe he's an alien trying to take over the world?
sure hope you guys are gonna be around at the UK meet!

 

[Merkinball]

And which left-wing billionaire are we to blame for Argentina crash? Or sub-prime crisis? - Kosez

I don't see what the debate is here. Considering that Soros himself admits that his moves had a negative impact on the Asian Financial Crisis. This thread isn't about Argentina or our sub-prime problems (it's not a crisis). This is about George Soros, and I listed some of the issues of concern with Soros.

Soros actually makes some very real and very meaningful investments and charitable donations to help poor people and to encourage democratic progress around the world. He doesn't cow tow to Rupurt Murdoc's world views or the world views of right wing talk radio hosts so those people enjoy attacking Soros for his good works. The problem is the right wingers are full of it. - Oerdin

Did you read any of the negatives? How are those things "full of it." Nobody is out here criticizing the GOOD things that Soros has done. We are criticizing the BAD things that he has done. And his propencity to use his wealth to shape politics and culture, and his history of exploiting the very nature of capitalism that he criticizes. One minute he bemoans the vulnerability of the Asian economy, the next he uses his wealth and power to bring it to its knees and cripple the poor there. The man is a monster.

 

[Richard Cribb]

The capitalism is bound to vanish in the river of history, socialism will replace it?

Yes.

That's just so Marxist...

Yes.

You are free to think what you want. Doesnt make you anymore correct, however.

Kindly look into the mirror.

Was 'prancing around and smashing skulls' the only tactic used? Nope. Lots of labeling and stated mistruths were also done to demonize opponents. There are similarities even if you dont wish to recognize them.

Again, kindly look into the mirror.Or just check out some of your former posts or the deeds of your precious administration and discover who is "labeling and stating mistruths".
Then proceed to accept that your comparison was mindless.
Be adult enough to accept that comparing any privately or publically funded modern think-tank/media outlet with one of the worst, openly violent paramilitary organizations in history is not only mindless and ignorant, but also intellectually dishonest.

/shrug. Precisely what I would expect a brownshirt to say.

A brownshirt wouldn't say anything. He would just use his bludgeon.
Also it is quite rich that you should try to compare me with a brownshirt. Man, you are a riot.

From who? Europe? No thanks.

From any educated person. You have some of them in your country as well.
I also notice that in my catalogue of neo-con evil I forgot one of the main foes, that mythical beast Europe.

Right. Only the dumb ones dont see things the way you see them.

Actually that is more or less correct.
And I see your and raise with

Ugh.

Good ugh to you, too.

 

[Richard Cribb]

Darn. Uhm..George Soros = Hitler = Stalin...maybe he's an alien trying to take over the world?

That is a better attempt, but it is still lacking somewhat. Just keep trying, and remember that for instance any muslim/Chavez/Putin/socialism/raised taxes for the rich- reference is also a good way to get some bonus points.

sure hope you guys are gonna be around at the UK meet!

Not so sure about that, unfortunately. I am not English, I live in Ultima Thule.

 

[MobBoss]

Again, kindly look into the mirror.Or just check out some of your former posts or the deeds of your precious administration and discover who is "labeling and stating mistruths".

Really. All I have to say to that is 'General Betray-Us'......or the shouting down tactics of various moveon.org-ites, or code pink weirdos.

Then proceed to accept that your comparison was mindless.

Not in the least. The vilification and demogogery from the left are directly comparable. Dont like it? /shrug. Dont agree? Then make your case as opposed to simply dismissing it as mindless.

Be adult enough to accept that comparing any privately or publically funded modern think-tank/media outlet with one of the worst, openly violent paramilitary organizations in history is not only mindless and ignorant, but also intellectually dishonest.

I said they were comparable in some of their tactics...not all....nor that they were direct copies of each other. Be adult enough to comprehend a similarity where it exists even if the two organizations are not direct copies of one another. Be intellectually honest enough to not overstate my position like you just have here.

 

[Richard Cribb]

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I consider it way beyond my dignity to comment comprehensively on this. Besides, this has gone way too off-topic already.
You don't want to admit that you made an utterly ignorant and outrageous comparison. Fine. I leave it to anybody to judge that for themselves.
The same goes for your motives for bringing in an irrelevant Nazi-reference.
But every cloud has a silver lining, even this big one. This means that any Hitler/Bush-comparison is totally valid, since some of their tactics, actions etc. are indeed comparable. Anybody should be adult enough to comprehend those similarities...
And now you just have to excuse me for not "debating " more with you, life is too short for this sort of things.

 

[MobBoss]

I consider it way beyond my dignity to comment comprehensively on this. Besides, this has gone way too off-topic already.
You don't want to admit that you made an utterly ignorant and outrageous comparison. Fine. I leave it to anybody to judge that for themselves.
The same goes for your motives for bringing in an irrelevant Nazi-reference.
But every cloud has a silver lining, even this big one. This means that any Hitler/Bush-comparison is totally valid, since some of their tactics, actions etc. are indeed comparable. Anybody should be adult enough to comprehend those similarities...
And now you just have to excuse me for not "debating " more with you, life is too short for this sort of things.

Again, as I stated earlier...you want to discuss the merits then please do. But all you do here is whine more about an opponent you dont agree with.

Personally, I dont see a hitler/bush comparison as valid because I dont see any similarity there where I do with the point I made. I also mentioned why I see the comparisons I do. You offer no counterpoint except to demonize me for my position. So be it.

By all means, if you consider the debate style of demonizing an opponent while offering no discussion of merit as keeping your dignity then you have accomplished that here.

 

[Tee Kay]

Did you read any of the negatives? How are those things "full of it." Nobody is out here criticizing the GOOD things that Soros has done. We are criticizing the BAD things that he has done. And his propencity to use his wealth to shape politics and culture, and his history of exploiting the very nature of capitalism that he criticizes. One minute he bemoans the vulnerability of the Asian economy, the next he uses his wealth and power to bring it to its knees and cripple the poor there. The man is a monster.

To be precise, the man is a professional capitalist warrior, and he'll do what he needs to do to get victory.

Not that I like him much, mind you.

 

[LesCanadiens]

Tell me, when did the leftist bloggers launch their Kristallnacht? When did they start rounding up right wingers and send them to the gas chambers? When did they chain right wingers to desks in basements and force them to memorize numbers in lieu of having hard drives?

 

[Richard Cribb]

Sigh.
Since you obviously are in need of being spoon-fed to get any points, let me take it nice and easy.

Again, as I stated earlier...you want to discuss the merits then please do. But all you do here is whine more about an opponent you dont agree with.

First, there are no "merits" to discuss. To drive home the point for the umpteenth time, you made an outrageous and asinine comparison, probably with some political motivation. This was pointed out, firstly not by me. You are the one whining about it.

Personally, I dont see a hitler/bush comparison as valid because I dont see any similarity there where I do with the point I made.

The point is that you don't have the monopoly on such comparisons.
It is easier to find similarities between Dubya and Hitler than between the SA and Soros-founded media.Many have indeed done it already.
Thus, if you keep persisisting that your SA-statements are valid, I just tell you that I or anybody else can go on with Bush and Hitler.
Easy as pie, really.
Ever heard about Ludvig Holberg, by the way? Besides being a very learned philosopher and historian in the 18th century ( a century in some ways much wiser than ours), he also wrote some lovely comedies. One of them is about the student Erasmus Montanus, who in one of the scenes proves that his mother is a stone.How, oh there are similarities you see. She can't fly, the stone can't fly, ergo...
Logic is a fearful thing that should be handled with great care...

I also mentioned why I see the comparisons I do. You offer no counterpoint except to demonize me for my position. So be it.

Don't be paranoid, buddy. I never demonized you, just pointed out that your knowledge of history and political ideologies apparently leaves a bit to be desired. If that is being demonized, I suppose that is something you have to suffer quite a lot in your life.

By all means, if you consider the debate style of demonizing an opponent while offering no discussion of merit as keeping your dignity then you have accomplished that here.

Says the one who compared perfectly legal media outlets in a comparatively free contemporary society with vicious political terrorists in an unstable post-ww1 Germany that eventually became ruled by Nazis. You are truly a funny man
But no I am afraid I have to ask you to take your fun somewhere else. I simply don't have neither the time nor the motivation to play anymore, and I am afraid that this will pretty much be moving in circles anyway.

 

[ConanKND]

I dunno, he destroyed our (Thailand's) economy, leading to the Asian economic crash....

 

[plarq]

Then do you hate him?

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

Is this the same guy that also donates a crapload of money to fighting poverty in Africa and other such things?

 

[aelf]

What evil has he conconcted since 1992? He basically single handedly crashed the entire Malaysian economy

I am inclined to congratulate him on that. Malaysia is racist place with a backward political and social culture built on communal politics and religious fanaticism (which is used to serve political ends), a virtual apartheid disguised as a liberal democracy; a wolf in sheep skin, so to speak. IMO, they should be economically nuked back to the age and the status where they really belong

 

[Phlegmak]

I dunno, he destroyed our (Thailand's) economy, leading to the Asian economic crash....

Really? So then Merkinball's statements were correct? About the Asian crash I mean.

 

[happy_Alex]

One of the demons in the twisted, angst-ridden world of the neo-cons: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cindy_Sheehan.
Others include Michael Moore, Rosie O'Donnell, Al Gore and Noam Chomsky (They usually haven't read the last mentioned, at least it recently turned out that none on this board have, but their media tells them that he eats little babies without caring to boil them first).

Ok, that clears it up. One feature of the above seems to be a lack of bottle when committing to socialism: the only alternative.

Then "USA" needs a simple lesson in political philosophy. However strangely enough, I know about many USAians who are fully capable to distinguish between them.

Sadly, they're not hugely evident on this Forum IMHO.

I did, there was even one particualry odd fellow here who tried to ruin my perfectly fine Marx-thread because he spotted the name Soros in the companion article I posted in it. That fellow had difficulties with separating Al Franken from Lenin, so enough said about that.
But the ironic part of it is of course that Hitler used to be such a darling of the conservatives; they filled his coffers, cheered for him because he handled the working rabble so well, and up here they even regarded him as the most evident candidate to receive the Nobel Peace Prize...

That is so right-on, man. So many completely forget the support give to the Facsits, throughout the prewar period, especially in the Spanish Civil War. It sickens me when the uninformed try to attribute the rise of dictators to worker organisation and movements, like a certain economist did recently.

And just to get back on topic, George Soros is certainly not a socialist, as is evident from his writings and actions, he is just a smart capitalist. Smart enough to realize that for his beloved capitalism to survive for a little more time, certain concessions have to be made to those pummeled by the invisible hand.
From a real left perspective, this makes him very dangerous, of couse.

I don't know a great deal about George Soros, other than that he was invovled in currency speculation that caused 'black wednesday'. I suspect he would take offence at being compared to a mass-murdering. syphillitic sociopath.

 

[LesCanadiens]

I dunno, he destroyed our (Thailand's) economy, leading to the Asian economic crash....

No, you destroyed your own economy by defending the baht well past the point it should have been. Your country was basically bankrupt long before the baht was floated in '97 anyways.

 

[George2816]

Really. All I have to say to that is 'General Betray-Us'......or the shouting down tactics of various moveon.org-ites, or code pink weirdos.

Well all i got to say is general that wants to run for president in the future = i will never trust what they have to say!