Sir Bugsy
Civ.D.
We could play it two ways. We could have instructors play and say what and why they did something, or the way we started it.
GK2- The Training Day Experiment
- Thread starter Gengis Khan
- Start date
alerum68
Priest of Hiroshima
I'm not really interested in doing instruction on this one... just a clean cut SG to finish it off. I just don't have time time that will be required.
Mistfit
Deity
I'll finish this one however you guys want. I think it would be a shame to leave it as it is.
DJMGator13
Still breathing
What about forming a few small teams consisting of 1 instructor, 1 "current" player, and 2 or 3 "new" players. Then we could have each team pursue a different victory condition and play it as a regular SG.
I think we should shot for Conquest (teach about palying around te dom limit), Space, and 100K as the victory condition. I think we're to late to try for 20K and diplo would be too easy.
I think we should shot for Conquest (teach about palying around te dom limit), Space, and 100K as the victory condition. I think we're to late to try for 20K and diplo would be too easy.
peacemonger
Chieftain
- Joined
- Oct 11, 2004
- Messages
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I love DJMGator's idea. As a fairly new (six months or so on-and-off) player, my game usually bogs down somewhere in the late MA, and most of the great instructive stuff on this site focuses on early game. I think it would be a fantastic resource to have this Training Game thread take things all the way through to end-game play.
I indicated interest in participating earlier, and that still stands...I just need to figure out how to get my brother in NY to cough up my vanilla CD. If you do divide teams according to victory conditions though, I happen to suck at war (just ask Bede
) so take that for what it is worth in assigning me.
I indicated interest in participating earlier, and that still stands...I just need to figure out how to get my brother in NY to cough up my vanilla CD. If you do divide teams according to victory conditions though, I happen to suck at war (just ask Bede
) so take that for what it is worth in assigning me.
Diplo is only too easy if you know how it works. Otherwise, diplo is really dangerous since it is random if you win. I mention this because when I first started Civving I avoided Diplo like the plague.
denyd
Emperor
To continue in the spirit of this thread, a goal of teaching/learning both current a future players, I think a space race might be the best choice. Push the expansion to the domination limit and manipulate the AI to shorten the research cycle to the minimum. Valuable discussions regarding the use of TOE and the scientific AI free tech would provide future players with new ways to improve their games.
I've found that 100K games generally follow the same path (settle new city, rush cultural improvement, rinse & repeat) and I agree diplomatic are too easliy manipulated. Winning via either military option while easy to accomplish wouldn't really add any new lessons to the thread.
I'd be happy to play, tutor or just contribute more thoughts & ideas to this thread, so just let me know what hat I should plan to wear and I'll be ready whenever the game resumes.
I've found that 100K games generally follow the same path (settle new city, rush cultural improvement, rinse & repeat) and I agree diplomatic are too easliy manipulated. Winning via either military option while easy to accomplish wouldn't really add any new lessons to the thread.
I'd be happy to play, tutor or just contribute more thoughts & ideas to this thread, so just let me know what hat I should plan to wear and I'll be ready whenever the game resumes.
Mistfit
Deity
Actually to put a bit of a feeling of expediancy to this thing I can take the next turn as soon as Friday 
DJMGator13
Still breathing
Sounds like a plan 
Off to the stars
Off to the stars
Mistfit
Deity
Friday before noon to late? If it is, someone else can pick it up before.
(Back to the last 10-15 pages to remember where we are at in this one
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I'll try to keep the post as detailed as possible but no where near what we were doing at the begining of the game
(Back to the last 10-15 pages to remember where we are at in this one
) I'll try to keep the post as detailed as possible but no where near what we were doing at the begining of the game
Sir Bugsy
Civ.D.
One year? This is almost as bad as that Sul5b game. Why don't we set up the roster as people step up. We may even want to play an open roster.
Here's the idea. Anyone can play, you just must be ready to play in the next 24 hours. By anyone, I don't want to see any vets stepping in. If you're playing emperor or above, let a less experienced guy play. This rule doesn't count for folks like Misfit who are already on the roster.
When you play we want as much detail as possible about why you are doing things. A great example has been the recent write ups over in the Sid Vicious game. The player will need to focus on why they did something, what the overall contribution to the overall strategy the decision did for us.
Then we will wait a manditory 24 hours while the entire world evaluates the turn set. The 24 hours could be expanded to 48 hours if a critical decision is made or a new strategy is being developed. Let's make Gator, Bede, Denyd or myself the only ones who can invoke a 48 hour discussion hold. Rinse & repeat.
What does everyone think about that? By being open we can keep the game moving, new players can step in and try their hand.
Here's the idea. Anyone can play, you just must be ready to play in the next 24 hours. By anyone, I don't want to see any vets stepping in. If you're playing emperor or above, let a less experienced guy play. This rule doesn't count for folks like Misfit who are already on the roster.
When you play we want as much detail as possible about why you are doing things. A great example has been the recent write ups over in the Sid Vicious game. The player will need to focus on why they did something, what the overall contribution to the overall strategy the decision did for us.
Then we will wait a manditory 24 hours while the entire world evaluates the turn set. The 24 hours could be expanded to 48 hours if a critical decision is made or a new strategy is being developed. Let's make Gator, Bede, Denyd or myself the only ones who can invoke a 48 hour discussion hold. Rinse & repeat.
What does everyone think about that? By being open we can keep the game moving, new players can step in and try their hand.
denyd
Emperor
Good goal and nice idea on the newbie pickup and play mode.
I'll start tracking this and toss in my 10 cents whenever it's appropriate.
I'll start tracking this and toss in my 10 cents whenever it's appropriate.
Mistfit
Deity
In hindsight this was an overly optimistic view of how my day was going to go. I'm playing now will have it back as soon as I can.
