Global warming mod

[civ_king]

Small temperature changes like that might sound small, but globally it has a much higher impact.

precisely, people are like oh, a 2 degree rise pfft not that much different

 

[szemek77]

I'm going to run some math on Al Gore power usage okay? and I'll explain the adjustments

Oh well, AG uses only 4 times (taking your calculation for granted) more energy, not 10 times more. Yeah, I'm defeated.

now on to your climate, IIRC in the last 2 Million years the climate globally was only 3 degrees colder during the last ice age (before hand, the Sahara was grassland!) if 3 degrees less is an ice age, what is 3 degrees more?

You statement has NO reference to what I wrote. At all.

 

[civ_king]

Oh well, AG uses only 4 times (taking your calculation for granted) more energy, not 10 times more. Yeah, I'm defeated.




You statement has NO reference to what I wrote. At all.

1) I forgot to put, "Not as bad as said, but your point is still generally correct"
2) I know, got to put some red herrings out there don't I?


@Soup, why do you hate Capitalism? is it because it goes against everything Jesus said or because it is unCalifornian? or something else?

 

[NBAfan]

@Soup, why do you hate Capitalism? is it because it goes against everything Jesus said or because it is unCalifornian? or something else?

Jesus was speaking against money being all someone cares about.

 

[civ_king]

Jesus was speaking against money being all someone cares about.

Have you taken a look at the US recently? it is infested with worshippers of Mammon and mostly run by the Stewards of Iniquity

Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:

For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink:

I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.

Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?

Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me.

And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.

 

[Afforess]

Have you taken a look at the US recently? it is infested with worshippers of Mammon and mostly run by the Stewards of Iniquity

How exactly is this different than things 2000 years ago? People don't change, not really.

Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:

For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink:

I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.

Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?

Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me.

And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.

Good scripture. Pretty much sums up the difference between 'Christians' and Christians.

 

[NBAfan]

Have you taken a look at the US recently? it is infested with worshippers of Mammon and mostly run by the Stewards of Iniquity

I say that is how the whole world has always been. It is not just the US.

 

[civ_king]

It wasn't bad until that corporate tool named Reagan assumed the Presidency and they proclaimed God wants us to exploit the poor

 

[NBAfan]

It wasn't bad until that corporate tool named Reagan assumed the Presidency and they proclaimed God wants us to exploit the poor

Then you have Communism which just makes everyone poor. People were just as selfish before Reagan.

 

[Danwood]

zomg i have innescated a huge debate proud of it


discuss, folks, discuss

 

[NBAfan]

zomg i have innescated a huge debate proud of it


discuss, folks, discuss

If you start a thread on Hitler, "Global warming," and if Canada\Poland should be in Civ it always happens.

 

[Arakhor]

Geez. Politics, religion and minor Civ details that always cause arguments - now all we need is a debate about capital punishment, universal welfare and regulation of personal firearms

 

[soup567]

@Soup, why do you hate Capitalism? is it because it goes against everything Jesus said or because it is unCalifornian? or something else?

1) I'm atheist, so I don't believe in Jesus.
2) I don't care for capitalism mostly because it only promotes the top 2%, there are other reasons too, I just don't feel like going into them.

 

[Afforess]

2) I don't care for capitalism mostly because it only promotes the top 2%

As Opposed to what? Communism? We know that works. Socialism? Greece is a prime example of success.

Out of all the economic systems, Capitalism has the least failures.

 

[soup567]

Out of all the economic systems, Capitalism has the least failures.

Except for the constant recessions...oh...and wall street stealing our money!
If there's a new way, I'll be the first in line, but it better work this time.

And I know socialism (and communism) isn't perfect, personally I would prefer a mixed economy, but much more social, than the U.S.A.'s one is currently.

 

[twjr]

Even though we have gone WAY off the original topic here I will continue leading us down the other path.

Why do you have to be so clear cut and black and white with your definitions. Is there no room for social-capitalism? I see that in America a lot. You are either one thing or you are the other with no room for intermediaries. You are either red or blue, left or right, American or your a communist, believe in god or the spawn of satan (yes I am making generalist statements). In reality there is far more wiggle room.

 

[Slammer64]

The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings; the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries.
Winston Churchill

 

[soup567]

Why do you have to be so clear cut and black and white with your definitions. Is there no room for social-capitalism?

That's why I said I preferred a mixed economy

 

[NBAfan]

Except for the constant recessions...oh...and wall street stealing our money!
If there's a new way, I'll be the first in line, but it better work this time.

And I know socialism (and communism) isn't perfect, personally I would prefer a mixed economy, but much more social, than the U.S.A.'s one is currently.

That would be because of Bush's and Obama's socialist policies.

 

[Arakhor]

The USA won't crash and burn any more than it already has by implementing a national healthcare system that's actually based on need rather than greed. I think the privatisation of medical care is one of the most morally repugnant things that capitalism has yet hit upon.