Go to jail for 10 years for getting head?

[RedWolf]

Well, thats just sick. They should have buried that guy under the jail. That judge should be removed from his position.

And the wacko mother as well.

 

[Elrohir]

I'm pretty tough on criminals and I think premarital sex is immoral....and even I think this is a pretty wacked out sentence.

Not quite sure what to say besides "life sucks".

 

[fishjie]

Kiddo, I am willing to bet I have seen far more of the world than you have. Apparently, you are incapable of accepting the fact that regardless of whether they have sex or not, its against the law in a lot of places. Why is it against the law? Think about it. Teen promiscuity is a bad thing. It leads to ruined lives. Thats why.

why is it against the law? GOOD QUESTION. because in the united states of america, we have a very puritan moral system where sex = bad. there is no logical basis for this, however there is definitely a "religious" one. this stems from thousands of years ago where women were considered objects, and thus a woman losing her virginity "devalued" her. thus people came up with all sorts of stupid religious justifications for not having sex until marriage. of course, in reality, everybody had sex. its just that the guys could get away with it, while the women couldn't, since they got pregnant. the laws back then were just as stupid, but they screwed over women far more. just like today's laws in georgia are barbaric and don't reflect reality.

teen promiscuity is bad? give me a break. why don't you just throw the majority of teens into jail then? while we're at it, lets just throw everyone who has sex out of wedlock into jail? how about we execute all homosexuals as well? that way we can enforce christian morals. oh wait but that's right, pastors can have sex with underage children, but its okay.

i can't believe you buy into this age of consent bs. So you're telling me that at the magical age of 17, a kid all of a sudden he has the right to consent to sex? but two seconds before he turned 17 he didn't? the guy was a minor as well, he is no rapist. statutory rape != real rape, where a woman is forced against her will.

here's more food for thought - back in the middle ages, when the average life expectancy was a lot shorter, people were having sex at young ages - like 13. think about that. people have been having sex at young ages since the dawn of time. if you had spouted this nonsense back then, you would have been ridiculed, just as you are now. so where's your logical basis for teen promiscuity being bad? it was being done back then.

 

[Sidhe]

And we are not. Laws are constantly being changed, added or removed.

Isn't that because people like us see the inconsistency in such laws and find them ethically unsound? In other words if people didn't highlight such arbitrary nonsense, and just maintained that the law is the law, nothing would ever change. Modify it more is my view. This is no crime it's a traversty of justice.

 

[Adamb0mb]

@fishjie

I think statutory rape laws stem from a historical trend of older men victimizing younger girls and not religion. Hell, lots of religions have no problem with "child brides" which you would think would have an exception under statuatory rape law the law was religous in nature.

 

[CaptainF]

Why is it against the law? Think about it. Teen promiscuity is a bad thing. It leads to ruined lives. Thats why.

Ruined lives at the hands of the law apparently.

 

[fishjie]

Ruined lives at the hands of the law apparently.

seriously. okay let me reclarify my position. whatever the problems of teen sex, mostly pregnancy and stds, will not be solved by sending teens to jail because they did not meet artificial and arbitrary age requirements. the fact of the matter is, teens have different levels of maturity. i know people who are well in their 20s who are still emotionally immature, and i knew teens in high school who were far more mature for their age. punishing people for having sex is not the answer.

if you want to address teen pregnancy and stds, you cannot pretend teenagers do not have sex and act like sending a guy to jail for ten years is the correct solution. it isnt.

finally, the guys only crime was being black. if you read the article that someone linked earlier, there were multiple cases of white men in georgia, well in their 30s, having sex with teenage girls, and yet did they get sex offender status? nope. they got away practically scott free. how's that for injustice? the law is unequally enforced in georgia. that alone should clue you in that what happened to this 17 year old is WRONG. if only he were white and 30, he'd be okay. hell, if he were white and 17 i'd put money up that he'd be okay.

 

[CaptainF]

seriously. okay let me reclarify my position. whatever the problems of teen sex, mostly pregnancy and stds, will not be solved by sending teens to jail because they did not meet artificial and arbitrary age requirements. the fact of the matter is, teens have different levels of maturity. i know people who are well in their 20s who are still emotionally immature, and i knew teens in high school who were far more mature for their age. punishing people for having sex is not the answer.

if you want to address teen pregnancy and stds, you cannot pretend teenagers do not have sex and act like sending a guy to jail for ten years is the correct solution. it isnt.

finally, the guys only crime was being black. if you read the article that someone linked earlier, there were multiple cases of white men in georgia, well in their 30s, having sex with teenage girls, and yet did they get sex offender status? nope. they got away practically scott free. how's that for injustice? the law is unequally enforced in georgia. that alone should clue you in that what happened to this 17 year old is WRONG. if only he were white and 30, he'd be okay. hell, if he were white and 17 i'd put money up that he'd be okay.

I'm not supporting the law, on the contrary, I flippantly advocated the assassination of the judges a few pages back.

 

[Masquerouge]

I'm not supporting the law, on the contrary, I flippantly advocated the assassination of the judges a few pages back.

I don't think any kind of age difference is gonna bail you out of jail for that one though

 

[MjM]

Then let me educate you...if you as a 15 year old have sex with a 13 year old you are guilty of a misdemeanor in the state of California and can spent as much as a year in county jail.

I doubt Id go to County Jail with adults for doing that, but hell that wouldn't stop me from doing it.

 

[GenMarshall]

I would have a hypothetical question for you MobBoss. How would you feel if you were in that kid's shoes and had been sentanced for 10 years just because you got a little nookie?

 

[Shaihulud]

if by under 16 yrs old you cannot give legal consent to have sex, how about asking their legal guardians? Does that excuse it? I think not. I think most commonsensical people will say that what was done is a miscarriage of justice, unfortunately laws are inflexible. There is a similar drama going on in Singapore as well, with underaged soccer players in a racially minority group.

 

[Narz]

I would have a hypothetical question for you MobBoss. How would you feel if you were in that kid's shoes and had been sentanced for 10 years just because you got a little nookie?

Technically he just got a little mouthie.

Very well spoken fishjie!

if by under 16 yrs old you cannot give legal consent to have sex, how about asking their legal guardians?

Hi Mr. Williams, I was just wondering. Can you sign this permission slip for your daughter to go down on me next Friday night?