GoobNES01: Fallout [Third Thread]

Russian Defence Minister has announced today that Russian contingent of troops in Indonesia will be increased considerably. He stated that up to two million soldiers will be serving in Indonesia within a few months, assisted by the newest Russian military designs such as Mig 1.41 and T-85 tanks as well as a number of others no specifically mentioned.

Also, do you know the logistical problems of sending 2,000,000 men thousands of miles through the sea into Indonesia? To occomplish that kind of feat you'd need thousands and thousands of ships. The Battle of Normandy-the largest sea invasion ever- eventually totalled 3 million allied men crossing the english channel, but that was stretched over a period of several months. The initial landing had no where near that amount. The initial landings were made of about 400,000-500,000 troops. And that required 7,000 ships and 4,100 landing craft - to get accross the English Channel, which at its longest point is about 150 miles accross. And compared to the tropical jungles of Indonesia, france looked like a logistical paradise.

Theres already been enough BS in this NES. No need for more.
 
*coughs and points to a long arguement between China and Germany that Germay wouldn't invade any of the Scandinavian countries.*

It was already a forgone conclusion that I would invade those nations. I'm sure you knew that too. We've all done a little white lying before ;)

But honestly. Russia freaking out because I am aiding to topple a dictator? You can't always have the world to yourself. Even if you are the premier world power.
 
Australia does, I think.

also no. Not surprisingly, China, the USA, and India are the world's largest food producers, and each of those produces under a quarter of the world's total. Australia is amongst the top exporters of wheat--in certain years accounting for perhaps as much as a little under a fifth of total world exports. Australia also produces and exports a large amount of meat, which could be considered "grain potential". But as far as total production, Australia and New Zealand are both rather agriculturally negligible except for certain niches. Their total outputs could well fit within the yearly output variations of the larger producers. Just FYI ;)
 
Insane_Panda said:
Also, do you know the logistical problems of sending 2,000,000 men thousands of miles through the sea into Indonesia? To occomplish that kind of feat you'd need thousands and thousands of ships. The Battle of Normandy-the largest sea invasion ever- eventually totalled 3 million allied men crossing the english channel, but that was stretched over a period of several months. The initial landing had no where near that amount. The initial landings were made of about 400,000-500,000 troops. And that required 7,000 ships and 4,100 landing craft - to get accross the English Channel, which at its longest point is about 150 miles accross. And compared to the tropical jungles of Indonesia, france looked like a logistical paradise.

Theres already been enough BS in this NES. No need for more.

Even with transport helicopters and planes it would be almost impossible. The sheer distance makes it insane. Do you realize what the cost of maniting 150,000 troops in Iraq is? Like 14 billion a week or something. Now image 2 million.
Not a chance.
 
He's got a couple months. Perhaps not two million, but pretty darn close. It's doable, especially if you already have established secure destinations.
 
He's got a couple months. Perhaps not two million, but pretty darn close. It's doable, especially if you already have established secure destinations.

To Indonesia? Accross hundreds if not thousands of miles of water? To support that kind of landing force you would need thousands and thousands of of ships. It would be a logistical nightmare trying to land all of those on the Indonesian coast aswell.
 
Well, since I do have troops in SEAR and China thats where they are going mostly, and then the needed once will be very easy to move to Indonesia, plenty of time and ships to acomplish that.
 
Perhaps. But still, that leaves the question unanswered why is Russia so quick to jump the gun when Germany is OFFERING aid to topple Suharto and establish democratic governments in Acheh. The German government is oblidged to aid the Achehnese government. None of our moves are hostile to the Russians in any way, and yet Russia continues to act belligerently for no reason.
 
Stormbringer said:
Well, since I do have troops in SEAR and China thats where they are going mostly, and then the needed once will be very easy to move to Indonesia, plenty of time and ships to acomplish that.

Wait... when did you have troops in China... :eek:
 
Insane_Panda said:
Well, since you pay tribute.....

it was aid to help rebuild their cities, if 3 of your cities were partially nuked we would give you money too :p
 
UIS border, you allowed me to have troops there, and I do believe the MPP we signed grants me permition to have troops in China

Germany did not offer to help, Germany decided to go over Russia's head and after Russia anihilated most of Indonesia forces to move in and annex land, and it will not happen. The operation is conducted by Russia and will be conducted by Russia, Germany's "offer" to help is rejected.
 
Germany did not offer to help, Germany decided to go over Russia's head and after Russia anihilated most of Indonesia forces to move in and annex land, and it will not happen. The operation is conducted by Russia and will be conducted by Russia, Germany's "offer" to help is rejected.

Annex land? Annex Land? Not once did Germany ask for territorial concessions. Not once. Before Russia makes sensationalist claims, it should look into our declaration of war instead. We seek for a free and democratic Indonesia, along with a free and democratic Acheh. The islands we currently occupy will be given back.

In short, Russia's claims are baseless and untrue. We offer aid, and you almost declare war on us for it. Do not be so afraid of us for no reason, we do not hate Moscow. Contrary to what you might think, we have no desire to void our past agreements and/or provoke the Russian nation.
 
From Bulgaria
To USE:
We appreciate that you want to stay temporarily until we're able to get back on our own feet militarily. However, if your tensions with Russia don't solve soon and escalate into war, we will expect immediate withdrawal. We re-iterate that Bulgaria will remain neutral in a Russo-European War and will not be host to armies of either side.

Story hopefully tonight. Orders may change somewhat if/when I write story.
STORY:

The Interim Government had issued its Constitution. On August 2nd, the Constitution went out for referendum.
Among its provisions were...

Article 1. The Bulgarian Democratic Republic is henceforth a Multi-Party Democracy.
Article 4. The President is elected for a 4-year term, with a maximum of 2 terms, by direct election.
Article 11. The Senate serves as the unicameral national legislature. It is a 100-person body directly elected by the population. Elections for the Senate occur every 4 years.
Article 15. Senatorial and Presidential Elections are scheduled so that they never coincide. When the Presidential Election occurs, the Senatorial term has lasted for 2 years (half of the term), and vice-versa.
Article 20. A Bulgarian citizen must be at least 18 to be eligible for voting in national elections.
Article 21. All political parties are permitted to campaign for votes. However, paramilitary groups are strictly forbidden and if intimidation is used in any way, shape, or form, upon the voters will be investigated and instigators imprisoned for at least 1-year sentences. Political parties found to be affiliated with terror campaigns will be outlawed from any election for 10 years, and members of the outlawed parties will not be permitted in joining any other party to evade the outlawing of their original group.
Article 25. The President assigns his own Council of Ministers, with Senatorial approval of appointments. Each political party with at least 5 Senators in the Senate is entitled to at least 1 Minister in the Council. The Prime Minister must be of the same party that controls a majority in the Senate.
Article 26. Control of the more seats than any other single party in Senate is considered being the majority party.
Article 27. Laws dealing with internal affairs are proposed in the Senate and upon getting at least 67% votes of approval, the law passes. The President may debate with his Council of Ministers to veto the law, with a 14-day time limit to veto the law. If no veto is issued, the law comes into effect immediately.
Article 28. Foreign affairs are solely done by the President with advice from his Council of Ministers. ONLY IF THE PRESIDENT CHOOSES TO DO SO, he or she may refer the diplomatic matters to the Senate via the Prime Minister.
Article 33. The Army, Navy, and Air Force shall all be responsible to the President.
Article 34. The police forces are responsible to the Senate.
Article 45. In case of national emergency, the President can suspend the Senate and rule by decree with advice of his Council of Ministers for a period of 3 years or until the emergency subsides, whichever comes first. Once the rule by decree ends, new Presidential Elections are to occur, and the Senate shall re-convene.


The Constitution passed the referendum by 78%.

...

Yago Gararin was sitting in a restaurant-pub in downtown Sofia, having a sandwich - all he could afford, with the country still being in depression because of the years of civil strife. On the small television in the corner of the restaurant - black-and-white, because apparently the owner couldn't afford a color TV - a newsreporter announced the approval by referendum of the Constitution. Cheers erupted around him. He himself smiled, but did not cheer for fear of choking on his meal. He looked at the restaurant owner behind the counter. He was happy, too, clearly, and Yago realized that if the man didn't need the money, he would say "Next round of drinks on the house!"
Noone could afford much these days. There was much optimism that the new Democracy would usher in reforms that would revive Bulgaria's nearly-nonexistent economy.
Right after he finished his sandwich, he would go home to his wife, pregnant 6 months with their first child, and celebrate with her. Both of them votes "yes" on the Constitution.
"Now, a member of the Senate speaks to the nation," the reporter announced and was replaced by a young, blonde man with glasses.
"Citizens of Bulgaria," the young Senator began, "I am Oleg Tura of the PEP, and I am campaigning to become your President in the election next year. But that introduction aside, I have not come on the news to ask for votes. I ask that you help Bulgaria. The government on its own cannot bring the country out of depression, though it will strive to revive the Bulgarian economy. We do need your help. Farmers, work productively on your lands. Bring great harvests to feed your families and your neighbors. Workers of the factories, we also implore you to work productively. Not to support our government. But to help our Nation. For we will never rise out of the despair that the civil war and anarchy caused if we do not work together! Thank you, my countrymen!"
There was applause in the whole pub. But how many of these proletarians would honestly work hard and productively?
No matter, thought Yago. I will do my best to help Bulgaria. The faster we get back on our feet the faster the foreign armies withdraw, even if they did stay to help.... Bulgaria needs togetherness to prosper...


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The Commonwealth Union representative in the UN spontaneously whistles a nostalgic tune to the memory of the time when the power vacuum was so big a small island nation could play a leading key-role in international politics. The whistling noise produced from his nose ceases mounrfully. In a matter of half a minute the eyes of the most incompetent assembly of diplomats from across the eyes had been focused on him. Hah, they were no better then he himself, Benedict Hodgy. They had all ended up where incompetent diplomats go, to an unworthy grave as representatives in the UN.

Outside of Nagasaki the world continued turning round and round, but nothing ever matters. Not inside the UN buildings.
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