Why did you go for Ceremonial Burial first? Why not Alpha followed by Mapmaking?
Why did you still have 4 warriors in Republic? Were you not done with hut hunting by then?
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- Thread starter Peaster
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I guess I just wasn't thinking about the tech path. I usually do CB first. I did actually build the temple in Moscow in 3250BC. I guess that could have been a trireme and then the settler could have been completed in 2850BC. Maybe I could have gone a lot faster.
I really only used one warrior for hut hunting. The other warriors were in Moscow, St.Pete (2 sqaure island) and Minsk (3 square island). I just didn't see the need to disband them. The cities were producing 8 shields, 1 more shield would not have made much difference. On the other hand, I probably would have been much better off supporting an extra trireme than a warrior.
The better question is why I didn't disband them before 1000 AD. I didn't disband the warrior in Moscow until 1120 AD. I am not even sure when I disbanded the others, but it wasn't until at least 1500 AD. I guess I just wasn't thinking about how safe the cities were with the AIs so far away.
Here is part 3 of my log.
40AD Moscow Library
120AD Monotheism discovered, Odessa Founded (on large island)
200AD St.Pete builds Mike's
220AD Ask Greeks for gift, they give The Wheel, ask Americans, they give 150g.
240AD My rating is Weak (Greek's are now pathetic)
300AD Americans Give 50g
320AD Navigation discovered
460AD Physics discovered
520AD Sevastopol founded (on Wall 2 on Iron at 40,208), Trade with Germans Physics for Contruction, Americans give 150g
620AD Magnetism discovered, Moscow Dye to St.Pete for 132g, Trade with Germans Magnetism for Bridge Building
680AD St.Pete builds Magellan's, St.Pete Hides to Kiev for 62g
720AD Engineering discovered
760AD Tblisi founded (on North of wall 2 at 36,206)
780AD Americans give 100g
860AD Invention discovered Minsk Beads to Kiev for 80g
940AD Democracy discovered, Democracy established, Americans give 100g
960AD Minsk Silk to Smolensk for 231g, Odessa Coal to Moscow for 255g
980AD Smolensk builds Leo's, Steam Engine discovered, trade with Greeks Invention for Sanitation
1000AD Moscow builds Sewer System (size 13).
40AD Moscow Library
120AD Monotheism discovered, Odessa Founded (on large island)
200AD St.Pete builds Mike's
220AD Ask Greeks for gift, they give The Wheel, ask Americans, they give 150g.
240AD My rating is Weak (Greek's are now pathetic)
300AD Americans Give 50g
320AD Navigation discovered
460AD Physics discovered
520AD Sevastopol founded (on Wall 2 on Iron at 40,208), Trade with Germans Physics for Contruction, Americans give 150g
620AD Magnetism discovered, Moscow Dye to St.Pete for 132g, Trade with Germans Magnetism for Bridge Building
680AD St.Pete builds Magellan's, St.Pete Hides to Kiev for 62g
720AD Engineering discovered
760AD Tblisi founded (on North of wall 2 at 36,206)
780AD Americans give 100g
860AD Invention discovered Minsk Beads to Kiev for 80g
940AD Democracy discovered, Democracy established, Americans give 100g
960AD Minsk Silk to Smolensk for 231g, Odessa Coal to Moscow for 255g
980AD Smolensk builds Leo's, Steam Engine discovered, trade with Greeks Invention for Sanitation
1000AD Moscow builds Sewer System (size 13).
Having founded all the planned cities in my homeland, in this period I started moving North. I built the minimum number of cities on walls 2-7 and they were located for ease of transportation not specials. In contrast, I fully utilized all the land on wall 1. Colonization of huge continent started near the end of this period.
+1020 Barbarians kill my explorer.
+1040 Bach built. Rostov2 founded on the second wall. T2L4S4
+1060 Electricity -> Refrigeration. Domestic Silk for 222.
+1080 100g from hut.
+1120 Refrigeration -> Leadership.
+1140 Domestic Coal, undemanded Gold for 280, 57. T3L3S4
+1160 Explosives -> Americans -> Industrialization. Astrakhan4 founded on the fourth wall.
+1180 Leadership -> Corporation.
+1200 Industrialization -> Egyptian -> Conscription.
+1220 Newton built.
+1240 Corporation -> Refining. 100g from hut.
+1280 Mongols build Sun Tzu. 100g from hut. Kharkov6 founded on the sixth wall.
+1300 Refining -> Combustion.
+1360 Combustion -> Genetic Engineering.
+1400 5 barbarian musketeers from hut which kill my explorer the next turn.
+1420 Genetic Engineering -> Steel.
+1460 Egyptians build Darwin.
+1480 Steel -> Automobile. Copper to Babylonians for 1084 establishes the first foreign trade route.
+1500 Mongols build Eiffel.
Status at +1500
Population: 12.45M; Cities: 17; Trade routes: 28D1F; Government: Democracy
Gold: 906; Cost per turn: 101; Total advances: 57; Production: 76MT; 0 polluted tiles
Wonders: Marco, Michelangelo, Copernicus, Leo, Magellan, Newton, Bach
Units: 3 Engineers, 7 Transports, 15 Freight, 1 Explorer
Babylonian: No embassy; Pyramids, Adam Smith; Allied with me
German: No embassy; Colossus; Allied with me
Egyptian: No embassy; Hanging Gardens, Shakespeare, Darwin; Allied with me
American: No embassy; Great Library, Statue of Liberty; Allied with me
Greek: No embassy; Lighthouse, Oracle; nominal war with me
Mongol: No embassy; Great Wall, King Richard, Sun Tzu, Eiffel;
+1510 Automobile -> Electronics.
+1530 Electronics -> Tactics. 50g from hut.
+1540 Cure for Cancer built.
+1550 100g from hut.
+1560 Tactics -> Machine Tools.
+1570 Shush, first city on huge continent , founded. Copper to Shush for 378.
+1580 Machine Tools -> Miniaturization. Silver to Babylonians for 1030.
+1590 Miniaturization -> Mass Production. Coal, 2xundemanded to Babylon for 800, 426, 444. T0L3S7
+1600 Mass Production -> Computers. 5 barbarian musketeers from hut which kill my explorer the next turn. T2L3S5
+1610 Computers -> Flight.
+1620 SETI built. Silver to Babylonians for 315.
+1630 Flight -> Radio.
+1640 Mongols build Suffrage. First pollution appears. Hoover dam built. Radio -> Atomic Theory. Shushtar founded on the huge continent.
+1650 200g from hut. Silver to Egyptians for 410. T4L2S4
+1660 Atomic Theory -> Nuclear Fission. Germans cancel alliance over my refusal to share Computers with them. Silk to Babylonians for 1474. T0L2S8
+1670 Nuclear Fission -> Nuclear Power -> Laser. Gems, 2xundemanded to Babylon for 960, 383, 376. T4L2S4
+1680 Laser -> Advanced Flight. Greek elephant shows up near undefended Shush. Greeks want 800g just to talk. I refuse. Put a commodity Freight near Shush and rushed an alpine.
+1690 Greek elephant kills my freight. Alpine kills Greek elephant and turns vet. Domestic Copper for 211.
+1700 Babylonians build UN. Advanced Flight -> Communism. Computers -> American -> Communism.
+1710 -> Espionage. First Airport built. Silk to Babylonians for 428.
+1720 Espionage -> Recycling. 5 barbarian musketeers from hut. Explorer escapes.
+1730 Recycling -> Rocketry. Silver to Egyptians for 467. Rifleman from hut.
+1740 Dezful founded on the huge continent. 200g from hut. Musketeer from hut.
+1750 Rocketry -> Space Flight. Rushed battleship kills 2 barbarian musketeers on Kharkov's doorstep and turns vet.
Status at +1750
Population: 18.6M; Cities: 20; Trade routes: 31D13F; Government: Democracy
Gold: 142; Cost per turn: 244; Total advances: 75; Production: 310MT; 1 polluted tiles
Wonders: Marco, Michelangelo, Copernicus, Leo, Magellan, Newton, Bach, Cure, Hoover Dam, SETI
Units: 5 Engineers, 1 Musketeer, 2 Alpine, 1 Rifleman, 1 Battleship, 8 Transports, 2 Spy, 23 Freight, 1 Explorer
Babylonian: No embassy; Pyramids, Adam Smith, UN; Allied with me
German: No embassy; Colossus;
Egyptian: No embassy; Hanging Gardens, Shakespeare, Darwin; Allied with me
American: No embassy; Great Library, Statue of Liberty; Allied with me
Greek: No embassy; Lighthouse, Oracle; War with me
Mongol: No embassy; Great Wall, King Richard, Sun Tzu, Eiffel, Suffrage; nominal war with me
Foot print: 4 cities on southern islands, 10 on wall 1, 3 on northern walls, 3 on huge continent.
+1020 Barbarians kill my explorer.
+1040 Bach built. Rostov2 founded on the second wall. T2L4S4
+1060 Electricity -> Refrigeration. Domestic Silk for 222.
+1080 100g from hut.
+1120 Refrigeration -> Leadership.
+1140 Domestic Coal, undemanded Gold for 280, 57. T3L3S4
+1160 Explosives -> Americans -> Industrialization. Astrakhan4 founded on the fourth wall.
+1180 Leadership -> Corporation.
+1200 Industrialization -> Egyptian -> Conscription.
+1220 Newton built.
+1240 Corporation -> Refining. 100g from hut.
+1280 Mongols build Sun Tzu. 100g from hut. Kharkov6 founded on the sixth wall.
+1300 Refining -> Combustion.
+1360 Combustion -> Genetic Engineering.
+1400 5 barbarian musketeers from hut which kill my explorer the next turn.
+1420 Genetic Engineering -> Steel.
+1460 Egyptians build Darwin.
+1480 Steel -> Automobile. Copper to Babylonians for 1084 establishes the first foreign trade route.
+1500 Mongols build Eiffel.
Status at +1500
Population: 12.45M; Cities: 17; Trade routes: 28D1F; Government: Democracy
Gold: 906; Cost per turn: 101; Total advances: 57; Production: 76MT; 0 polluted tiles
Wonders: Marco, Michelangelo, Copernicus, Leo, Magellan, Newton, Bach
Units: 3 Engineers, 7 Transports, 15 Freight, 1 Explorer
Babylonian: No embassy; Pyramids, Adam Smith; Allied with me
German: No embassy; Colossus; Allied with me
Egyptian: No embassy; Hanging Gardens, Shakespeare, Darwin; Allied with me
American: No embassy; Great Library, Statue of Liberty; Allied with me
Greek: No embassy; Lighthouse, Oracle; nominal war with me
Mongol: No embassy; Great Wall, King Richard, Sun Tzu, Eiffel;
+1510 Automobile -> Electronics.
+1530 Electronics -> Tactics. 50g from hut.
+1540 Cure for Cancer built.
+1550 100g from hut.
+1560 Tactics -> Machine Tools.
+1570 Shush, first city on huge continent , founded. Copper to Shush for 378.
+1580 Machine Tools -> Miniaturization. Silver to Babylonians for 1030.
+1590 Miniaturization -> Mass Production. Coal, 2xundemanded to Babylon for 800, 426, 444. T0L3S7
+1600 Mass Production -> Computers. 5 barbarian musketeers from hut which kill my explorer the next turn. T2L3S5
+1610 Computers -> Flight.
+1620 SETI built. Silver to Babylonians for 315.
+1630 Flight -> Radio.
+1640 Mongols build Suffrage. First pollution appears. Hoover dam built. Radio -> Atomic Theory. Shushtar founded on the huge continent.
+1650 200g from hut. Silver to Egyptians for 410. T4L2S4
+1660 Atomic Theory -> Nuclear Fission. Germans cancel alliance over my refusal to share Computers with them. Silk to Babylonians for 1474. T0L2S8
+1670 Nuclear Fission -> Nuclear Power -> Laser. Gems, 2xundemanded to Babylon for 960, 383, 376. T4L2S4
+1680 Laser -> Advanced Flight. Greek elephant shows up near undefended Shush. Greeks want 800g just to talk. I refuse. Put a commodity Freight near Shush and rushed an alpine.
+1690 Greek elephant kills my freight. Alpine kills Greek elephant and turns vet. Domestic Copper for 211.
+1700 Babylonians build UN. Advanced Flight -> Communism. Computers -> American -> Communism.
+1710 -> Espionage. First Airport built. Silk to Babylonians for 428.
+1720 Espionage -> Recycling. 5 barbarian musketeers from hut. Explorer escapes.
+1730 Recycling -> Rocketry. Silver to Egyptians for 467. Rifleman from hut.
+1740 Dezful founded on the huge continent. 200g from hut. Musketeer from hut.
+1750 Rocketry -> Space Flight. Rushed battleship kills 2 barbarian musketeers on Kharkov's doorstep and turns vet.
Status at +1750
Population: 18.6M; Cities: 20; Trade routes: 31D13F; Government: Democracy
Gold: 142; Cost per turn: 244; Total advances: 75; Production: 310MT; 1 polluted tiles
Wonders: Marco, Michelangelo, Copernicus, Leo, Magellan, Newton, Bach, Cure, Hoover Dam, SETI
Units: 5 Engineers, 1 Musketeer, 2 Alpine, 1 Rifleman, 1 Battleship, 8 Transports, 2 Spy, 23 Freight, 1 Explorer
Babylonian: No embassy; Pyramids, Adam Smith, UN; Allied with me
German: No embassy; Colossus;
Egyptian: No embassy; Hanging Gardens, Shakespeare, Darwin; Allied with me
American: No embassy; Great Library, Statue of Liberty; Allied with me
Greek: No embassy; Lighthouse, Oracle; War with me
Mongol: No embassy; Great Wall, King Richard, Sun Tzu, Eiffel, Suffrage; nominal war with me
Foot print: 4 cities on southern islands, 10 on wall 1, 3 on northern walls, 3 on huge continent.
Status at +1500 Population: 4M; Cities: 23;
Gold: 1100; Total advances: 37; Production: 81MT;
Wonders: Marco, LH, Michelangelo, Leo
Units: 4 Engineers, 15 Galls, 26 vans, 3 Dips, 2 Cru
As you can see, I am behind Ali by 20 techs (and for some forgotten reason I was delaying the RR thru Corp path). But I had 9 cities on the Big Land with roads into the Babs and USA for faster van deliveries, and for conquest later.
What is your overall plan ? Have you decided on landing vs conquest yet ? I guess you decided to move north for some reason ... was it for trade ?
Gold: 1100; Total advances: 37; Production: 81MT;
Wonders: Marco, LH, Michelangelo, Leo
Units: 4 Engineers, 15 Galls, 26 vans, 3 Dips, 2 Cru
As you can see, I am behind Ali by 20 techs (and for some forgotten reason I was delaying the RR thru Corp path). But I had 9 cities on the Big Land with roads into the Babs and USA for faster van deliveries, and for conquest later.
What is your overall plan ? Have you decided on landing vs conquest yet ? I guess you decided to move north for some reason ... was it for trade ?
Status at +1754 Population: 21M; Cities: 97; Government: Fundy
Gold: 4000; Total advances: 59; Units: 27 Engineers, 46 Rifleman, 5 Cruisers, 27 Transports, 16 Freight, etc.
Most of the AI have been properly invaded, though only the Babs are all gone. The end is near....
Gold: 4000; Total advances: 59; Units: 27 Engineers, 46 Rifleman, 5 Cruisers, 27 Transports, 16 Freight, etc.
Most of the AI have been properly invaded, though only the Babs are all gone. The end is near....
You went from 23 cities to 97 in 27 turns!!? WOW!! Unbelievable!
I decided against playing isolationist. My current plan includes trade, some possible conquest, and landing. My current thinking, which may change based on the situation, for the "some possible conquest" part is to:
1. Buy choice cities of the my allies on the huge continent (Babylonians, Egyptians, and Americans). I bought my first city, an Egyptian one, in 1760. Babylonians are currently in democracy so I cannot buy any of theirs. I have no idea about the American government yet.
2. If I can get there fast enough, battle Mongols and Greeks, possibly Germans for some of their choice cities.
Thanks; I guess half of the new cities were by conquest. I had enough engineers to make RRs almost at will, and enough boats and artillery to take a few cities each turn. Also, the terrain was so nice, and vans payments so large, that it was easy to re-double my mainland cities every 14 turns (std ICS growth rate).
Well, it sounds like you have several good options. I was a little surprised at your move North though, because you seemed to be doing OK in the south, maybe even near a launch. But if you want a great gotm score, or super-trade, you probably have to expand.
Here is part 4 of my log.
1060AD Sevastopol Silver to Minsk for 160g
1080AD Railroad discovered
1140AD Odessa Copper to Moscow for 162g
1160AD Chemistry is discovered
1180AD Sverdlovsk is founded (wall 3 south at 31,195)
1200AD Trade with Germans Railroad for Chivalry, Give Babylonians Railroad, Trade Democracy for Gunpowder. My rating is now Moderate
1220AD Minsk Silk to St.Pete for 120g
1240AD 6 vans to Moscow
1260AD Moscow builds Shake's, Explosives discovered, St.Pete Gems to Moscow for 198g, give Americans Railroad, no gift
1340AD Industrialization discovered
1400AD Trade with Germans Industrialization for Economics, Give Americans Democracy
1420AD Yakutsk (on north of wall 3 at 28, 192)
1440AD Germans offer 400g for war on Egyptians, accepted, The Corporation is discovered, Give Americans Steam Engine, Odessa SIlk to Smolensk for 278, my rating is now Strong
1460AD Moscow builds University, St.Pete Dye to Sverdlovsk for 184g
1480AD Minsk builds first factory
1500AD Electricity is discovered
Status at +1500 Population: 6.54M; Cities: 10; Trade Routes 20D0F; Government: Democracy
Gold: 435; Cost per turn: 34; Total advances: 44; Production: 70MT;
Wonders: Colossus, Marco, Michelangelo, Magellan, Shake's, Leo
Units: 1 Engineer, 5 musketeer, 1 Crusader, 5 Transport, 6 Freight, 1 Explorer
1060AD Sevastopol Silver to Minsk for 160g
1080AD Railroad discovered
1140AD Odessa Copper to Moscow for 162g
1160AD Chemistry is discovered
1180AD Sverdlovsk is founded (wall 3 south at 31,195)
1200AD Trade with Germans Railroad for Chivalry, Give Babylonians Railroad, Trade Democracy for Gunpowder. My rating is now Moderate
1220AD Minsk Silk to St.Pete for 120g
1240AD 6 vans to Moscow
1260AD Moscow builds Shake's, Explosives discovered, St.Pete Gems to Moscow for 198g, give Americans Railroad, no gift
1340AD Industrialization discovered
1400AD Trade with Germans Industrialization for Economics, Give Americans Democracy
1420AD Yakutsk (on north of wall 3 at 28, 192)
1440AD Germans offer 400g for war on Egyptians, accepted, The Corporation is discovered, Give Americans Steam Engine, Odessa SIlk to Smolensk for 278, my rating is now Strong
1460AD Moscow builds University, St.Pete Dye to Sverdlovsk for 184g
1480AD Minsk builds first factory
1500AD Electricity is discovered
Status at +1500 Population: 6.54M; Cities: 10; Trade Routes 20D0F; Government: Democracy
Gold: 435; Cost per turn: 34; Total advances: 44; Production: 70MT;
Wonders: Colossus, Marco, Michelangelo, Magellan, Shake's, Leo
Units: 1 Engineer, 5 musketeer, 1 Crusader, 5 Transport, 6 Freight, 1 Explorer
My game is going very slowly in real time turns. I have not reached 1800 yet. Picking off a few cities of Egyptians degenerated into active warfare with them and I eventually had to wipe them out. Meanwhile, my growing technology caused widespread pollution in cities which were neither very large nor producing a lot of shields and at some point I had 7 polluted tiles. Instead of building space ship parts I had to build a lot of recycling centers delaying the space race. In fact, Egyptians beat me to Apollo, and Babylonians started the space race before I did. Now that I have joined the space race, it is going rather slowly because the war effort is draining my otherwise rich treasury. I am at active war with Greeks, Mongols, and Germans. I just took over Mongol capital.
Here is part 5 of my log.
1540AD Electronics discovered, Power Level is Moderate
1610AD Refining discovered
1620AD Tblisi Silver to Moscow 372g
1650AD Steel Discovered, Trade with Babylonians Electronics for Theory of Gravity, Refining for Conscription
1660AD Moscow builds Newton's College
1670AD Tblisi Copper to Moscow for 308g
1680AD Trade with Greeks Conscription for Leadership, Germans demand Steel, I refuse and they cancel alliance
1690AD Germans develop Communism (Marco's obsolete)
1700AD Tactics discovered, Vladivostok is founded (on south of wall 4 at 29,181). Power Level is Strong
1710AD Tblisi Dye to Kiev for 122g
1730AD Minsk Gems (undemanded) to Tblisi for 136g, Novgorod founded (on north of wall 4 at 30,178)
1750AD Machine Tools discovered, St.Pete Spice to Sverdlovsk for 314g, Tblisi Silver to Moscow for 385g, Yakutsk Copper (undemanded) to Moscow for 208g
Status at +1750 Population: 7.05M; Cities: 12; Trade Routes 25D0F; Government: Democracy
Gold: 1365; Cost per turn: 36; Total advances: 52; Production: 79MT;
Wonders: Colossus, Marco, Michelangelo, Magellan, Shake's, Leo, Newton
Units: 3 Engineer, 6 Riflemen, 1 Cavalry, 7 Transport, 1 Diplomat, 14 Freight, 1 Explorer
1752AD Miniaturization discovered, Krasnoyarsk is founded (on south of wall 5 at 25, 167), Sverdlovsk Copper (u) to Moscow for 169g, Sevastopol Oil (u) to Moscow for 116g
1754AD Moscow Oil (u) to Tblisi for 154g
1758AD Combustion discovered
1762AD Riga is founded (on north of wall 5 at 29, 165)
1766AD Automobile Discovered, Sevastopol Gold (u) to Moscow for 127g, Kiev Silver to Minsk for 250g
1768AD Rostov is founded (on south of wall 6 at 30, 152)
1772AD Smolensk builds Hoover Dam, Mass Production discovered, Sevastopol Copper to Uruk for 644g (first foreign delivery, the transport carrying the van/truck started north in 1160AD from Tblisi on wall 2)
1776AD Vladivostok Silver to Minsk for 315g
1778AD Computers discovered
1780AD Smolensk Wine to Moscow for 252g
1782AD Astrakhan founded (on north of wall 6 at 33,151)
1784AD Mobile Warfare discovered, Trade with Germans Computers for Atomic Theory, Tactics for Communism, Moscow Beads to Vladivostok for 410g
1788AD Minsk builds SETI
1790AD Nuclear Fission discovered, Kharkov is founded (on south of wall 7 at 35,139)
1794AD Novogorod Silver to Minsk for 352g
1796AD Nuclear Power discovered, St.Pete Gems (u) to Eridu for 708g, Odessa Gold (u) to Eridu for 1240g
1798AD Laser discovered, Krasnoyarsk Coal to Moscow for 254g
1800AD Americans offer 450g for war on Greeks, I accept, Minsk Silk to Eridu for 1260 AD
Status at +1800 Population: 8.84M; Cities: 17; Trade Routes 28D4F; Government: Democracy
Gold: 402; Cost per turn: 123; Total advances: 63; Production: 357MT;
Wonders: Colossus, Marco, Michelangelo, Magellan, Shake's, Leo, Newton, Hoover Dam, SETI
Units: 3 Engineer, 4 Riflemen, 1 Cavalry, 14 Transport, 1 Diplomat, 14 Freight
1540AD Electronics discovered, Power Level is Moderate
1610AD Refining discovered
1620AD Tblisi Silver to Moscow 372g
1650AD Steel Discovered, Trade with Babylonians Electronics for Theory of Gravity, Refining for Conscription
1660AD Moscow builds Newton's College
1670AD Tblisi Copper to Moscow for 308g
1680AD Trade with Greeks Conscription for Leadership, Germans demand Steel, I refuse and they cancel alliance
1690AD Germans develop Communism (Marco's obsolete)
1700AD Tactics discovered, Vladivostok is founded (on south of wall 4 at 29,181). Power Level is Strong
1710AD Tblisi Dye to Kiev for 122g
1730AD Minsk Gems (undemanded) to Tblisi for 136g, Novgorod founded (on north of wall 4 at 30,178)
1750AD Machine Tools discovered, St.Pete Spice to Sverdlovsk for 314g, Tblisi Silver to Moscow for 385g, Yakutsk Copper (undemanded) to Moscow for 208g
Status at +1750 Population: 7.05M; Cities: 12; Trade Routes 25D0F; Government: Democracy
Gold: 1365; Cost per turn: 36; Total advances: 52; Production: 79MT;
Wonders: Colossus, Marco, Michelangelo, Magellan, Shake's, Leo, Newton
Units: 3 Engineer, 6 Riflemen, 1 Cavalry, 7 Transport, 1 Diplomat, 14 Freight, 1 Explorer
1752AD Miniaturization discovered, Krasnoyarsk is founded (on south of wall 5 at 25, 167), Sverdlovsk Copper (u) to Moscow for 169g, Sevastopol Oil (u) to Moscow for 116g
1754AD Moscow Oil (u) to Tblisi for 154g
1758AD Combustion discovered
1762AD Riga is founded (on north of wall 5 at 29, 165)
1766AD Automobile Discovered, Sevastopol Gold (u) to Moscow for 127g, Kiev Silver to Minsk for 250g
1768AD Rostov is founded (on south of wall 6 at 30, 152)
1772AD Smolensk builds Hoover Dam, Mass Production discovered, Sevastopol Copper to Uruk for 644g (first foreign delivery, the transport carrying the van/truck started north in 1160AD from Tblisi on wall 2)
1776AD Vladivostok Silver to Minsk for 315g
1778AD Computers discovered
1780AD Smolensk Wine to Moscow for 252g
1782AD Astrakhan founded (on north of wall 6 at 33,151)
1784AD Mobile Warfare discovered, Trade with Germans Computers for Atomic Theory, Tactics for Communism, Moscow Beads to Vladivostok for 410g
1788AD Minsk builds SETI
1790AD Nuclear Fission discovered, Kharkov is founded (on south of wall 7 at 35,139)
1794AD Novogorod Silver to Minsk for 352g
1796AD Nuclear Power discovered, St.Pete Gems (u) to Eridu for 708g, Odessa Gold (u) to Eridu for 1240g
1798AD Laser discovered, Krasnoyarsk Coal to Moscow for 254g
1800AD Americans offer 450g for war on Greeks, I accept, Minsk Silk to Eridu for 1260 AD
Status at +1800 Population: 8.84M; Cities: 17; Trade Routes 28D4F; Government: Democracy
Gold: 402; Cost per turn: 123; Total advances: 63; Production: 357MT;
Wonders: Colossus, Marco, Michelangelo, Magellan, Shake's, Leo, Newton, Hoover Dam, SETI
Units: 3 Engineer, 4 Riflemen, 1 Cavalry, 14 Transport, 1 Diplomat, 14 Freight
Here is my log from +1802 to +1850
This was a busy time. Foreign Trade Routes finally opened up. I subverted a couple of foreign cities to help enable trade to the Germans and Greeks. I also started building my spaceship during this time.
1802AD Robotics discovered, St.Pete Dye to Uruk for 1280g, Moscow Gold (u) to Uruk for 1008g
1804AD Espionage discovered, Moscow builds United Nations, Grozny founded (on north of wall 7 at 39, 137), Minsk Copper to Ur for 1343, Sevastopol Silver to Minsk for 347g
1806AD Refrigeration discovered
1808AD St.Pete Salt (u) to Uruk for 788g, St.Pete Oil (u) to Ur for 732g, Babylonians demand Computers, given
1810AD Recycling discovered, Moscow Oil to Eridu for 1384g
1812AD Babylonians develop flight (Colossus obsolete), Amphibious Warfare discovered, Trade with Babylonians Mass Production fr Flight
1814AD Smolensk Copper to Babylon for 608g, Yakutsk Gold to Ellipi for 452g, Power Level is Mighty
1816AD Radio discovered, Moscow Dye to Ur for 1022g
1818AD Sverlovsk Silver (u) to St.Pete for 116g
1820AD Advanced Flight discovered, Moscow Salt (u) to Babylon for 548g, Astrakhan Copper to Akkad for 344g, Odessa Silk to Babylon for 1514g
1822AD Rocketry discovered, Riga Copper to Samarra for 563g, Kiev Gold (u) to Eridu for 326g
1824AD Space Flight discovered, St.Pete Oil to Ur for 1557g, Vladivostok Gems to Babylong for 664g, Yakutsk Silver (u) to St.Pete for 122g
1826AD Plastics discovered, Smolensk builds Apollo Program, Moscow De to Eridu for 1086g, Rostov Oil to Samarra for 20g, Dnepropretrovsk founded (on south of big land at 39, 107)
1828AD Superconductor discovered, St.Pete Oil to Ellip for 1650g, Novgorod Gems to Babylon for 648g, Subvert Atlanta for 1120g (at 59, 61 from Allied Americans, Get Theology), Bribe Amerian and Greek Engineers, Riga Gold u) to Sevastopol for 54g
1830AD Greeks steal Plastics, Fusion Power discovered, Subvert Detroit for 1494g (at 55, 57 from Allied Americans, get Masonry), Novgorod Uranium to St.Pete for 54g, Astrakhan Oil to Eridu for 488g, Yakutsk Gems to Babylon for 744g, Vladivostok Gold to Eridu for 620g
1832AD Future Tech #1 discovered, Moscow Oil to Eridu for 1843g, Tblisi Dye to Akkad for 624g, Bribe Greek Cannon, Engineer and Transport
1834AD Americans steal Fusion Power, FT#2 discovered, SS#1 and SS#2 built, Krasnoyarsk Copper to Nippur for 238g, Krasnoyarsk Gold to Eridu for 524g, Astrakhan Gold to Eridu for 412g, Novgorod Copper to Uruk for 408g, Power Level is Supreme
1836AD Sneak attack by Greeks at Detroit, too weak to takeover city, Americans and Germans come to my aid, FT#3 discovered, SS#3,4,5,6 and 7 built, SC#1 built, Bribe Greek Cannon, Kill a number of Greeks, Sevastopol Copper to Washington for 688g, Kharkov Copper to Uruk for 208g, Yakutsk Gold to Eridu for 692g
1838AD Babylonians steal Fusion Power, FT#4 discovered, SS#8,9 and 10 built, Moscow Dye to Babylon for 1176g
1840AD SC#2, SS#11,12 and 13 built,
1842AD FT#5 discovered, SS#14,15,16,17 and 18 built, Sverdlovsk Copper to Thebes for 880g, St.Pete Oil to Akkad for 1770g
1844AD FT#6 discovered, SC#3, SS#1 and 20, SM#1 and 2 built, Bribe 2 Greek Cannons
1846AD SS#21,22,23,24 and 25, SC#4 and SM#3 builtGerans demand Superconductor, given, Riga Dye to Frankfurt for 792g
1848AD FT#7 discovered, SS#2 and 27 built, Vladivostok Spice to Boston for 952g
1850AD FT#8 discovered, SS#28, SC#5 built, Kharkov Spice to Athens for 732g, Vladivostok Copper to Heidelburg for 747g, Rostov Copper to Berling for 675g
Status at +1850 Population: 17.115M; Cities: 21; Trade Routes 22D28F; Government: Democracy
Gold: 7903; Cost per turn: 305; Total advances: 78 (+8FT); Production: 689MT;
Wonders: Colossus, Marco, Michelangelo, Magellan, Shake's, Leo, Newton, Hoover, UN, Apollo, SETI
Units: 1 Settler, 10 Engineer, 3 Alpine Troops, 5 Riflemen, 1 Cavalry, 4 Cannon, 24 Transport, 3 Spy, 3 Freight
This was a busy time. Foreign Trade Routes finally opened up. I subverted a couple of foreign cities to help enable trade to the Germans and Greeks. I also started building my spaceship during this time.
1802AD Robotics discovered, St.Pete Dye to Uruk for 1280g, Moscow Gold (u) to Uruk for 1008g
1804AD Espionage discovered, Moscow builds United Nations, Grozny founded (on north of wall 7 at 39, 137), Minsk Copper to Ur for 1343, Sevastopol Silver to Minsk for 347g
1806AD Refrigeration discovered
1808AD St.Pete Salt (u) to Uruk for 788g, St.Pete Oil (u) to Ur for 732g, Babylonians demand Computers, given
1810AD Recycling discovered, Moscow Oil to Eridu for 1384g
1812AD Babylonians develop flight (Colossus obsolete), Amphibious Warfare discovered, Trade with Babylonians Mass Production fr Flight
1814AD Smolensk Copper to Babylon for 608g, Yakutsk Gold to Ellipi for 452g, Power Level is Mighty
1816AD Radio discovered, Moscow Dye to Ur for 1022g
1818AD Sverlovsk Silver (u) to St.Pete for 116g
1820AD Advanced Flight discovered, Moscow Salt (u) to Babylon for 548g, Astrakhan Copper to Akkad for 344g, Odessa Silk to Babylon for 1514g
1822AD Rocketry discovered, Riga Copper to Samarra for 563g, Kiev Gold (u) to Eridu for 326g
1824AD Space Flight discovered, St.Pete Oil to Ur for 1557g, Vladivostok Gems to Babylong for 664g, Yakutsk Silver (u) to St.Pete for 122g
1826AD Plastics discovered, Smolensk builds Apollo Program, Moscow De to Eridu for 1086g, Rostov Oil to Samarra for 20g, Dnepropretrovsk founded (on south of big land at 39, 107)
1828AD Superconductor discovered, St.Pete Oil to Ellip for 1650g, Novgorod Gems to Babylon for 648g, Subvert Atlanta for 1120g (at 59, 61 from Allied Americans, Get Theology), Bribe Amerian and Greek Engineers, Riga Gold u) to Sevastopol for 54g
1830AD Greeks steal Plastics, Fusion Power discovered, Subvert Detroit for 1494g (at 55, 57 from Allied Americans, get Masonry), Novgorod Uranium to St.Pete for 54g, Astrakhan Oil to Eridu for 488g, Yakutsk Gems to Babylon for 744g, Vladivostok Gold to Eridu for 620g
1832AD Future Tech #1 discovered, Moscow Oil to Eridu for 1843g, Tblisi Dye to Akkad for 624g, Bribe Greek Cannon, Engineer and Transport
1834AD Americans steal Fusion Power, FT#2 discovered, SS#1 and SS#2 built, Krasnoyarsk Copper to Nippur for 238g, Krasnoyarsk Gold to Eridu for 524g, Astrakhan Gold to Eridu for 412g, Novgorod Copper to Uruk for 408g, Power Level is Supreme
1836AD Sneak attack by Greeks at Detroit, too weak to takeover city, Americans and Germans come to my aid, FT#3 discovered, SS#3,4,5,6 and 7 built, SC#1 built, Bribe Greek Cannon, Kill a number of Greeks, Sevastopol Copper to Washington for 688g, Kharkov Copper to Uruk for 208g, Yakutsk Gold to Eridu for 692g
1838AD Babylonians steal Fusion Power, FT#4 discovered, SS#8,9 and 10 built, Moscow Dye to Babylon for 1176g
1840AD SC#2, SS#11,12 and 13 built,
1842AD FT#5 discovered, SS#14,15,16,17 and 18 built, Sverdlovsk Copper to Thebes for 880g, St.Pete Oil to Akkad for 1770g
1844AD FT#6 discovered, SC#3, SS#1 and 20, SM#1 and 2 built, Bribe 2 Greek Cannons
1846AD SS#21,22,23,24 and 25, SC#4 and SM#3 builtGerans demand Superconductor, given, Riga Dye to Frankfurt for 792g
1848AD FT#7 discovered, SS#2 and 27 built, Vladivostok Spice to Boston for 952g
1850AD FT#8 discovered, SS#28, SC#5 built, Kharkov Spice to Athens for 732g, Vladivostok Copper to Heidelburg for 747g, Rostov Copper to Berling for 675g
Status at +1850 Population: 17.115M; Cities: 21; Trade Routes 22D28F; Government: Democracy
Gold: 7903; Cost per turn: 305; Total advances: 78 (+8FT); Production: 689MT;
Wonders: Colossus, Marco, Michelangelo, Magellan, Shake's, Leo, Newton, Hoover, UN, Apollo, SETI
Units: 1 Settler, 10 Engineer, 3 Alpine Troops, 5 Riflemen, 1 Cavalry, 4 Cannon, 24 Transport, 3 Spy, 3 Freight
Thanks for the detailed log haleewud. I just got past +1800 and will post another log piece soon. I am at war with Greeks, Germans, and Mongols. Mongol homeland is mine and German homeland has been invaded. Most Greek cities on huge island are mine but their homeland remains intact. Babylonians are still in Democracy and thus immune to bribery. They have also kept the peace. Americans have also kept the peace but a few of their out lying cities have been bribed away. I have a launchable minimal space ship and aiming to build a full one. My current goal is to end with a full space ship. Babylonians are the only rival in the space race but they have not discovered Superconductor yet.
Peaster, if you were not done by +1800 could you please post a log to +1800?
Is anyone else playing?
Peaster, if you were not done by +1800 could you please post a log to +1800?
Is anyone else playing?
I was done by then. I am following your and haleewud's posts, at least enough to get the general idea. It seems that you are both playing for landing, and both went north eventually, though I haven't quite connected the two plans.
Here is the final part of my log.
As 1850 was ending, I could see the end in sight. I still needed 11 SS, 11 SC and 9 SM, but I had 21 cities and 4 SS, 5 SC and 6 SM were already under construction. I was at war with the Greeks, although it had been a very uneventful war. My power was Supreme, but my reputation was Dishonorable.
1851AD SS#29 and SM#4 are built, FT9 is discovered, Kiev Oil to Munich for 1856g, Babylonians demand Superconductor and I give it to them.
1852AD SS#30 and #31 and SC#6 and #7 are built, FT#10 discovered, Grozny Gold to Eridu for 292g, Rostov Silver (u) to Moscow for 190g, Grozny Oil to St.Pete for 719g, Greeks demand Rocketry, I give it to them and a peace treaty is signed.
1853AD SS#32, SC#8 and #9, SM#5 and #6 are built.
1854AD Babylonians develop Space Flight, they demand Laser, I give it to them, a Peace treaty is signed (thought I was at peace). Egyptians get SF from Babylonians, a peace treaty is signed (thought I was at peace with them also). SS#33, #34 and #35, SC #10, #11 and #12, SM#7 are built.FT#11 is discovered. My power level fails to Mighty (Babs are Supreme). Moscow Oil to Leipzig for 1898g
1855AD Babylonians build SS#1 and #2, Greeks sneak attack (destroy 1 transport), SC#13 built, FT#12 discovered, Grozny Copper to Moscow for 396g, Yakutsk Uranium to Ur for 880
As I save for the end of 1855AD, everything is set up for my spaceship to be completed.
1856AD Babs build SS#3, Babs sneak attack, the Americans come to my aid, Babs attack Detroit and Dnepropretosvsk with planes and ships, but cannot kill all of the defenders. The Americans get SF from the Babylonians.
SS#36, #37, #38 and #39, SC #14, #15 and #16, SM 8, #9, #10, #11 and #12 are built. Spaceship is completed.
I bribe Mycenae (at 57,51) from the Greeks for 838g, I get 152g + Fundamentalism, 4 Greek partisans are formed. The Greeks demand Nuclear Fission, I refuse, but they still sign cease-fire and peace.
Spaceship is LAUNCHED.
In the 11 years between my Launch and the Landing, I fought a war with the Babylonians. I captured 14 of their 18 cities. I also fought the Mongols and Egyptians, both of whom sneak attacked me in 1865. I captured 1 Mongol city and 9 Egyptian cities prior to landing.
Status at +1866 Population: 41.89M; Cities: 47; Trade Routes 63D20F; Government: Democracy
Gold: 2994; Cost per turn: 698; Total advances: 86 (+20FT); Production: 1015MT;
Wonders: Pyramids, Colossus, Marco, Michelangelo, Cope's, Magellan, Shake's, Leo, Newton, Adam Smith, Hoover, Manhattan, UN, Apollo, SETI
Units: 1 Settler, 18 Engineer, 22 Partisans, 4 Alpine Troops, 14 Riflemen, 3 Mech.Infantry, 1 Cavalry, 2 Armor. 2 Cannon, 12 Howitzers, 30 Transport, 4 Spy, 1 Freight
As 1850 was ending, I could see the end in sight. I still needed 11 SS, 11 SC and 9 SM, but I had 21 cities and 4 SS, 5 SC and 6 SM were already under construction. I was at war with the Greeks, although it had been a very uneventful war. My power was Supreme, but my reputation was Dishonorable.
1851AD SS#29 and SM#4 are built, FT9 is discovered, Kiev Oil to Munich for 1856g, Babylonians demand Superconductor and I give it to them.
1852AD SS#30 and #31 and SC#6 and #7 are built, FT#10 discovered, Grozny Gold to Eridu for 292g, Rostov Silver (u) to Moscow for 190g, Grozny Oil to St.Pete for 719g, Greeks demand Rocketry, I give it to them and a peace treaty is signed.
1853AD SS#32, SC#8 and #9, SM#5 and #6 are built.
1854AD Babylonians develop Space Flight, they demand Laser, I give it to them, a Peace treaty is signed (thought I was at peace). Egyptians get SF from Babylonians, a peace treaty is signed (thought I was at peace with them also). SS#33, #34 and #35, SC #10, #11 and #12, SM#7 are built.FT#11 is discovered. My power level fails to Mighty (Babs are Supreme). Moscow Oil to Leipzig for 1898g
1855AD Babylonians build SS#1 and #2, Greeks sneak attack (destroy 1 transport), SC#13 built, FT#12 discovered, Grozny Copper to Moscow for 396g, Yakutsk Uranium to Ur for 880
As I save for the end of 1855AD, everything is set up for my spaceship to be completed.
1856AD Babs build SS#3, Babs sneak attack, the Americans come to my aid, Babs attack Detroit and Dnepropretosvsk with planes and ships, but cannot kill all of the defenders. The Americans get SF from the Babylonians.
SS#36, #37, #38 and #39, SC #14, #15 and #16, SM 8, #9, #10, #11 and #12 are built. Spaceship is completed.
I bribe Mycenae (at 57,51) from the Greeks for 838g, I get 152g + Fundamentalism, 4 Greek partisans are formed. The Greeks demand Nuclear Fission, I refuse, but they still sign cease-fire and peace.
Spaceship is LAUNCHED.
In the 11 years between my Launch and the Landing, I fought a war with the Babylonians. I captured 14 of their 18 cities. I also fought the Mongols and Egyptians, both of whom sneak attacked me in 1865. I captured 1 Mongol city and 9 Egyptian cities prior to landing.
Status at +1866 Population: 41.89M; Cities: 47; Trade Routes 63D20F; Government: Democracy
Gold: 2994; Cost per turn: 698; Total advances: 86 (+20FT); Production: 1015MT;
Wonders: Pyramids, Colossus, Marco, Michelangelo, Cope's, Magellan, Shake's, Leo, Newton, Adam Smith, Hoover, Manhattan, UN, Apollo, SETI
Units: 1 Settler, 18 Engineer, 22 Partisans, 4 Alpine Troops, 14 Riflemen, 3 Mech.Infantry, 1 Cavalry, 2 Armor. 2 Cannon, 12 Howitzers, 30 Transport, 4 Spy, 1 Freight
+1752 Babylonian embassy established. Ahvaz founded. Domestic undemanded deliveries for 172, 175.
+1754 Engineers survive barbarian musketeer. Space Flight -> Environmentalism. Battleship kills another barbarian musketeer. Domestic Oil for 872.
+1756 Environmentalism -> Plastics. 100g from hut.
+1758 Last barbarian musketeer killed in attack on my rifleman. Computers -> Egyptians to keep alliance. Egyptian embassy established. Domestic undemanded deliveries for 124, 120.
+1760 Plastics -> Superconductor. Domestic Silk for 1218. Egyptian Abydos subverted for 2x480. Spy turned vet. Got 50g, 8 structures, 3 soldiers, and 1 engineer. Space Flight to Egyptians and Babylonians to keep the alliance. Egyptian cavalry, turned None, bought for 222g.
+1762 Both Egyptians and Babylonians start Apollo! Superconductor -> Mobile Warfare. Domestic 2xOil for 1349, 1316. Abadan founded. Egyptian Lisht subverted for 2X954. Spy turned vet. Got 27g, 2 soldiers, and 6 structures. Superconductor to Egyptians to keep the alliance. T7L2S1
+1764 Egyptians steal Plastics. Mobile Warfare -> Combined Arms. Domestic deliveries for 667, 854. Egyptian Alexandria subverted for 2x1075g. Spy turned vet. Got 64g, 4 soldiers, and 10 structures. None Rifleman from hut. Undemanded deliveries to Babylonians for 215, 456. Magnetism to Egyptians to keep alliance. Egyptian engineer, turned None, bought for 492g. Egyptian Elephantine subverted for 2x227g. Spy turned vet. Got 5g, soldier, and 2 structures.
+1766 I finally stop giving Egyptians techs and they cancel alliance. Egyptians steal Automobile. I declare war. Combined Arms -> Robotics. Egyptian Pi-Ramses bought for 900g. Spy turned vet. Got 51g, 3soldiers, and 10 structures. 2 Egyptian partisans appear. One is killed at the cost of a Rifleman. Senate hands cease fire to Egyptians. Undemanded Salt to Egyptians for 1140. Egyptian Giza subverted for 2x888g. Spy escaped. Got 32g, 5 soldiers, 1 engineer, and 8 structures. 100g from hut. Andimeshk founded. Domestic Oil for 2106. Somehow my cease fire with Egyptians expired! Egyptian Memphis bought for 1240. Spy escaped. Got 26g, Shakespeare, 10 structures, 3 soldiers, and 3 engineers. Single partisan appears. Senate hands Egyptians another cease fire. Partisan bought for 320 just to get rid of it since it is sitting on a major railroad.
+1768 Robotics -> Stealth. Greek elephant killed. Copper to Babylonians for 504. Egyptian Avaris subverted for 2x572g. Spy escaped. Got 46g, 3 soldiers, and 6 structures. Khorramshahr founded. 5 barbarian fanatics from hut kill my explorer the next turn.
+1770 Egyptians sneak attack and lose a partisan. Americans cancel alliance over my refusal to share Superconductor. 2 Egyptian units killed. Copper to Egyptians for 2132. Cannon lost in attack on Egyptian capital. Egyptian Byblos, on the north coast of huge continent, bought for 966. Spy escaped. Got 33g, a soldier, and 2 structures. 2 Partisans appear. One bought for 352. Aswan founded.
+1772 Stealth -> Fusion Power. Greek Miletos bought for 176g. Spy escaped. Got 37g and an elephant. Senate gives Greeks cease fire. Mesr founded. Using 4 Howitizers, the 5 defenders of the Egyptian capital are killed and the city taken for 64g, 5 structures, and obsolete Hanging Gardens. 8 Egyptian partisans appear. Senate hands Egyptians a cease fire. Domestic Silver for 790. Egyptian Engineer turned None bought for 208. Egyptian Heliopolis subverted for 2x462g. Spy escaped. Got 38g, Darwin, 3 soldiers, and 7 structures. Somehow this act caused the expiration of cease fire with Egyptians. Egyptian Asyut bought for 407g. Spy escaped. Got 2 more partisans and yet another cease fire. 3 Egyptian partisans bought for 122g each. T4L2S4
+1774 Egyptians beat me to Apollo by one turn. Fusion Power -> Future Tech 1. Egyptian El-Amarna subverted for 2x348g. Spy escaped, got Apollo, 69g, 3 soldiers, 7 structures, and no new partisans. Pasargad founded. Domestic 2xOil, Copper for 308, 1256, 783. Wine to Babylonians for 557. 7 Egyptian partisans bought for 112g each. Greek catapult bought for 248g. T5L2S3
+1776 Babylonians start the space race before I do by building a structural. Accepted offer of Babylonians for war on Greeks in fear of losing their alliance. Last remaining Egyptian partisan kills an alpine and is later killed by my cannon. Greek elephant razes recently bought Miletos. Greeks and Americans ally against me. Future Tech 1 -> 2. Manhattan built instead of Apollo. All wonders are now built. Bushehr founded. Egyptian Buto bought for 164g. Spy escaped. Got 20g and a soldier. Domestic deliveries for 1360, 544, 152. T6L2S2
+1778 Future Tech 2 -> 3. Egyptian Hieraconpolis subverted for 2x320g. Spy escaped. Got 41g, a soldier, an Engineer, and 4 structures. Egyptian civilization destroyed. Greek elephant killed. Domestic Uranium for 2293. Domestic undemanded salt for 730.
+1780 Germans sneak attack and their frigate easily sinks my transport with 8 military units aboard. Future Tech 3 -> 4. I join the space race. My fighter destroys the German frigate. Babylonians cancel alliance over my refusal to share Superconductor, the only space tech they lack. Domestic deliveries for 277, 240, 1172, 263, 171.
+1782 Future Tech 4 -> 5. Aegis sinks Mongol transport with 4 units aboard. It then dies in attack on Karakorum. Mongol embassy established. 3 Howitzers and 2 partisans kill the 4 defenders of Karakorum at the cost of 1 partisan. Karakorum taken for Eiffel, King Richards, Great Wall, 594g, Fundamentalism, and 5 structures. 4 Mongol partisans appear. Senate Hands Mongols cease fire. Domestic deliveries for 1165, 558, 156, 1435. Batum and Zabol founded. Mongol Engineer bought for 1920g to open up the only road out of Karakorum. Mongol fanatic bought for 480g to open the road further up. Mongol Nishapur subverted for 2x1260. Spy escaped. Got 137g, 3 soldiers, and 3 structures. Mongol Kashgar bought for 2693. Spy was captured. Got Suffrage, 226g, 3 soldiers, and 3 structures. 2 Mongol partisans appear. Senate hands another cease fire to Mongols. American Cannon bought for 166g.
+1784 Future Tech 5 -> 6. German and Greek embassies established. German Nuremberg bought for 269g. Spy turned vet. Got 53g, rifleman, engineer, and destroyer which sinks a German destroyer. Another German destroyer bought for 459. Greek Herakleia bought for 640g. Spy turned vet. Got 106g, 2 soldiers, and barracks. Senate hands Greeks cease fire. Greek Pergamon subverted for 2x246g. Spy lost. Got 49g and a rifleman. Zahedan founded. Domestic deliveries for 1235, 1176, 27, 183. Mongol engineer , turned None, bought for 740. Mongol Tabriz subverted for 2x704g. Spy escaped. Got 215g, 2 soldiers, and 2 structures. 5 barbarian fanatics from hut.
+1786 Greeks sneak attack and kill an alpine. Mongols sneak attack and kill a rifleman and lose a partisan. One of the five barbarian fanatics disappears and the other 4 are killed in attack on my rifleman making it vet. Future Tech 6 -> 7. 2 Mongol units killed. Mongol Rifleman bought for 244g. Mongol Aleppo bought for 218g. Spy escaped. Got 108g, a soldier, and two structures. 2 defenders of Greek Thessalonica killed with howitzers and the city captured for 89g. Greek Mycenae bought for 384g. Spy turned vet. Got 66g, barracks, and 2 riflemen. Greek catapult bought for 208. Domesitc deliveries for 566, 2548. T7L2S1
+1788 American steal Fusion Power but I do not get a chance to declare war?! Future Tech 7 -> 8. American embassy established. Mongol Bokhara subverted for 2x517. Spy escaped. Got 189g, 2 units, and 5 structures. 2x100g from hut. Dashtestaan founded. Detroit subverted for 2x464. Spy escaped. Domestic deliveries for 2576, 40.
+1790 Mongols sneak attack and kill an alpine; they also lose 2 partisans. Future Tech 8 -> 9. Domestic deliveries for 1358, 1700, 1944. 4 defenders of Mongol Samarkand killed and the city taken for 223g, Sun Tzu, and a Colosseum. 4 Mongol partisans appear. American Denver subverted for 2x68g. Spy escaped. Got 9g and a cavalry. Attack on Germans aborted by senate's acceptance of cease fire. My attack force land and fortify. T1L2S7
+1792 Germans land several forces on the huge continent. Greeks break cease fire and raze Denver. Future Tech 9 -> 10 -> 11. 12 Greek units killed. Baltimore subverted for 2x370. Spy escaped. Got 53g, rifleman, engineer, marketplace. Domestic deliveries for 75, 110, 114, 93, 1746, 1090. 2 Mongol partisans bought for 190 each. American Cannon bought for 188. T4L2S4
+1794 Germans attack and lose 3 units, steal Fusion Power, and kill 3 units. Greeks lose a unit attacking me. Future Tech 11 -> 12. 13 German units killed. German Marathon captured for 55g. Senate hands another cease fire to Germans. 3 Greek units killed. Deliveries to Americans for 22, 1320. Domestic deliveries for 1070, 246. 100g from hut. American Troy subverted for 2x240. Spy escaped. Got 35g and a rifleman. 2 Mongol partisans bribed for 190 each. T1L2S7
+1796 Future Tech 12 -> 13 -> 14. Tangestaan and Luxor founded. Domestic deliveries for 30, 698, 60, 114, 666. American Cincinnati subverted for 2x72g. Spy captured. Got 12g and an alpine. 2 German units in Mongolia bought for 934g just to be rid of them. T3L2S5
+1798 Future Tech 14 -> 15. Space ship is now launchable. Midland and Damascus founded. German Cologne subverted for 2x155. Spy escaped. Got 27g and Cannon. Greek Eretria bribed for 460g. Spy escaped. Got 110g, 3 soldiers, and 3 structures. Domestic deliveries for 720, 154, 445, 1794, 554. Coal to Babylonians for 82. Mongol Heidelburg subverted for 2x287g. Spy captured. Got 215g and 2 riflemen. T6L2S2
+1800 Germans kill a partisan, lose 3 units in attacks on me, and steal Space Flight. Future Tech 15 -> 16. Mongol engineer bribed for 260. It builds a crucial road for my 3 howitzers which take down the 5 defenders of Berlin and capture it for 327g, Colossus, and 5 structures. 7 Partisans appear. German destroyer killed. Senate hands Germans cease fire. 3 German partisans bribed for 2x450+400. 100g from last hut. Domestic deliveries for 954, 126. AnnArbor, Kerman, and Babol founded. T4L2S4
Status at +1800
Population: 47.1M; Cities: 74; Trade routes: 112D24F; Government: Democracy
Gold: 210; Cost per turn: 855; Total advances: 85+15FT; Production: 1008MT; 4 polluted tiles
Wonders: built: Marco, Michelangelo, Copernicus, Leo, Magellan, Newton, Bach, Cure, Hoover Dam, SETI; captured: Hanging Gardens, Colossus, Great Wall, Sun Tzu, King Richards, Shakespeare, Darwin, Eiffel, Suffrage, Apollo
Units: 30 Engineers, 1 Musketeer, 5 fanatics, 12 partisans, 9 Alpine, 21 Rifleman, 1 Dragoon, 1 Cavlary, 2 Armor, 3 Cannon, 5 Howitzer, 2 Stealth Fighters, 2 Destroyers, 1 AEGIS, 1 Battleship, 11 Transports, 4 Spy, 23 Freight
Babylonian: 12 cities, 67 techs; Pyramids, Adam Smith, UN; War with Greeks
German: 5 cities, 56 techs; Allied with Mongols
Egyptian: Destroyed by me
American: 8 cities, 57 techs; Great Library, Statue of Liberty; Allied with Greeks
Greek: 9 cities, 33 techs; Lighthouse, Oracle; War with Babylonians, allied with Americans
Mongol: 3 cities, 54 techs; Allied with Germans
+1754 Engineers survive barbarian musketeer. Space Flight -> Environmentalism. Battleship kills another barbarian musketeer. Domestic Oil for 872.
+1756 Environmentalism -> Plastics. 100g from hut.
+1758 Last barbarian musketeer killed in attack on my rifleman. Computers -> Egyptians to keep alliance. Egyptian embassy established. Domestic undemanded deliveries for 124, 120.
+1760 Plastics -> Superconductor. Domestic Silk for 1218. Egyptian Abydos subverted for 2x480. Spy turned vet. Got 50g, 8 structures, 3 soldiers, and 1 engineer. Space Flight to Egyptians and Babylonians to keep the alliance. Egyptian cavalry, turned None, bought for 222g.
+1762 Both Egyptians and Babylonians start Apollo! Superconductor -> Mobile Warfare. Domestic 2xOil for 1349, 1316. Abadan founded. Egyptian Lisht subverted for 2X954. Spy turned vet. Got 27g, 2 soldiers, and 6 structures. Superconductor to Egyptians to keep the alliance. T7L2S1
+1764 Egyptians steal Plastics. Mobile Warfare -> Combined Arms. Domestic deliveries for 667, 854. Egyptian Alexandria subverted for 2x1075g. Spy turned vet. Got 64g, 4 soldiers, and 10 structures. None Rifleman from hut. Undemanded deliveries to Babylonians for 215, 456. Magnetism to Egyptians to keep alliance. Egyptian engineer, turned None, bought for 492g. Egyptian Elephantine subverted for 2x227g. Spy turned vet. Got 5g, soldier, and 2 structures.
+1766 I finally stop giving Egyptians techs and they cancel alliance. Egyptians steal Automobile. I declare war. Combined Arms -> Robotics. Egyptian Pi-Ramses bought for 900g. Spy turned vet. Got 51g, 3soldiers, and 10 structures. 2 Egyptian partisans appear. One is killed at the cost of a Rifleman. Senate hands cease fire to Egyptians. Undemanded Salt to Egyptians for 1140. Egyptian Giza subverted for 2x888g. Spy escaped. Got 32g, 5 soldiers, 1 engineer, and 8 structures. 100g from hut. Andimeshk founded. Domestic Oil for 2106. Somehow my cease fire with Egyptians expired! Egyptian Memphis bought for 1240. Spy escaped. Got 26g, Shakespeare, 10 structures, 3 soldiers, and 3 engineers. Single partisan appears. Senate hands Egyptians another cease fire. Partisan bought for 320 just to get rid of it since it is sitting on a major railroad.
+1768 Robotics -> Stealth. Greek elephant killed. Copper to Babylonians for 504. Egyptian Avaris subverted for 2x572g. Spy escaped. Got 46g, 3 soldiers, and 6 structures. Khorramshahr founded. 5 barbarian fanatics from hut kill my explorer the next turn.
+1770 Egyptians sneak attack and lose a partisan. Americans cancel alliance over my refusal to share Superconductor. 2 Egyptian units killed. Copper to Egyptians for 2132. Cannon lost in attack on Egyptian capital. Egyptian Byblos, on the north coast of huge continent, bought for 966. Spy escaped. Got 33g, a soldier, and 2 structures. 2 Partisans appear. One bought for 352. Aswan founded.
+1772 Stealth -> Fusion Power. Greek Miletos bought for 176g. Spy escaped. Got 37g and an elephant. Senate gives Greeks cease fire. Mesr founded. Using 4 Howitizers, the 5 defenders of the Egyptian capital are killed and the city taken for 64g, 5 structures, and obsolete Hanging Gardens. 8 Egyptian partisans appear. Senate hands Egyptians a cease fire. Domestic Silver for 790. Egyptian Engineer turned None bought for 208. Egyptian Heliopolis subverted for 2x462g. Spy escaped. Got 38g, Darwin, 3 soldiers, and 7 structures. Somehow this act caused the expiration of cease fire with Egyptians. Egyptian Asyut bought for 407g. Spy escaped. Got 2 more partisans and yet another cease fire. 3 Egyptian partisans bought for 122g each. T4L2S4
+1774 Egyptians beat me to Apollo by one turn. Fusion Power -> Future Tech 1. Egyptian El-Amarna subverted for 2x348g. Spy escaped, got Apollo, 69g, 3 soldiers, 7 structures, and no new partisans. Pasargad founded. Domestic 2xOil, Copper for 308, 1256, 783. Wine to Babylonians for 557. 7 Egyptian partisans bought for 112g each. Greek catapult bought for 248g. T5L2S3
+1776 Babylonians start the space race before I do by building a structural. Accepted offer of Babylonians for war on Greeks in fear of losing their alliance. Last remaining Egyptian partisan kills an alpine and is later killed by my cannon. Greek elephant razes recently bought Miletos. Greeks and Americans ally against me. Future Tech 1 -> 2. Manhattan built instead of Apollo. All wonders are now built. Bushehr founded. Egyptian Buto bought for 164g. Spy escaped. Got 20g and a soldier. Domestic deliveries for 1360, 544, 152. T6L2S2
+1778 Future Tech 2 -> 3. Egyptian Hieraconpolis subverted for 2x320g. Spy escaped. Got 41g, a soldier, an Engineer, and 4 structures. Egyptian civilization destroyed. Greek elephant killed. Domestic Uranium for 2293. Domestic undemanded salt for 730.
+1780 Germans sneak attack and their frigate easily sinks my transport with 8 military units aboard. Future Tech 3 -> 4. I join the space race. My fighter destroys the German frigate. Babylonians cancel alliance over my refusal to share Superconductor, the only space tech they lack. Domestic deliveries for 277, 240, 1172, 263, 171.
+1782 Future Tech 4 -> 5. Aegis sinks Mongol transport with 4 units aboard. It then dies in attack on Karakorum. Mongol embassy established. 3 Howitzers and 2 partisans kill the 4 defenders of Karakorum at the cost of 1 partisan. Karakorum taken for Eiffel, King Richards, Great Wall, 594g, Fundamentalism, and 5 structures. 4 Mongol partisans appear. Senate Hands Mongols cease fire. Domestic deliveries for 1165, 558, 156, 1435. Batum and Zabol founded. Mongol Engineer bought for 1920g to open up the only road out of Karakorum. Mongol fanatic bought for 480g to open the road further up. Mongol Nishapur subverted for 2x1260. Spy escaped. Got 137g, 3 soldiers, and 3 structures. Mongol Kashgar bought for 2693. Spy was captured. Got Suffrage, 226g, 3 soldiers, and 3 structures. 2 Mongol partisans appear. Senate hands another cease fire to Mongols. American Cannon bought for 166g.
+1784 Future Tech 5 -> 6. German and Greek embassies established. German Nuremberg bought for 269g. Spy turned vet. Got 53g, rifleman, engineer, and destroyer which sinks a German destroyer. Another German destroyer bought for 459. Greek Herakleia bought for 640g. Spy turned vet. Got 106g, 2 soldiers, and barracks. Senate hands Greeks cease fire. Greek Pergamon subverted for 2x246g. Spy lost. Got 49g and a rifleman. Zahedan founded. Domestic deliveries for 1235, 1176, 27, 183. Mongol engineer , turned None, bought for 740. Mongol Tabriz subverted for 2x704g. Spy escaped. Got 215g, 2 soldiers, and 2 structures. 5 barbarian fanatics from hut.
+1786 Greeks sneak attack and kill an alpine. Mongols sneak attack and kill a rifleman and lose a partisan. One of the five barbarian fanatics disappears and the other 4 are killed in attack on my rifleman making it vet. Future Tech 6 -> 7. 2 Mongol units killed. Mongol Rifleman bought for 244g. Mongol Aleppo bought for 218g. Spy escaped. Got 108g, a soldier, and two structures. 2 defenders of Greek Thessalonica killed with howitzers and the city captured for 89g. Greek Mycenae bought for 384g. Spy turned vet. Got 66g, barracks, and 2 riflemen. Greek catapult bought for 208. Domesitc deliveries for 566, 2548. T7L2S1
+1788 American steal Fusion Power but I do not get a chance to declare war?! Future Tech 7 -> 8. American embassy established. Mongol Bokhara subverted for 2x517. Spy escaped. Got 189g, 2 units, and 5 structures. 2x100g from hut. Dashtestaan founded. Detroit subverted for 2x464. Spy escaped. Domestic deliveries for 2576, 40.
+1790 Mongols sneak attack and kill an alpine; they also lose 2 partisans. Future Tech 8 -> 9. Domestic deliveries for 1358, 1700, 1944. 4 defenders of Mongol Samarkand killed and the city taken for 223g, Sun Tzu, and a Colosseum. 4 Mongol partisans appear. American Denver subverted for 2x68g. Spy escaped. Got 9g and a cavalry. Attack on Germans aborted by senate's acceptance of cease fire. My attack force land and fortify. T1L2S7
+1792 Germans land several forces on the huge continent. Greeks break cease fire and raze Denver. Future Tech 9 -> 10 -> 11. 12 Greek units killed. Baltimore subverted for 2x370. Spy escaped. Got 53g, rifleman, engineer, marketplace. Domestic deliveries for 75, 110, 114, 93, 1746, 1090. 2 Mongol partisans bought for 190 each. American Cannon bought for 188. T4L2S4
+1794 Germans attack and lose 3 units, steal Fusion Power, and kill 3 units. Greeks lose a unit attacking me. Future Tech 11 -> 12. 13 German units killed. German Marathon captured for 55g. Senate hands another cease fire to Germans. 3 Greek units killed. Deliveries to Americans for 22, 1320. Domestic deliveries for 1070, 246. 100g from hut. American Troy subverted for 2x240. Spy escaped. Got 35g and a rifleman. 2 Mongol partisans bribed for 190 each. T1L2S7
+1796 Future Tech 12 -> 13 -> 14. Tangestaan and Luxor founded. Domestic deliveries for 30, 698, 60, 114, 666. American Cincinnati subverted for 2x72g. Spy captured. Got 12g and an alpine. 2 German units in Mongolia bought for 934g just to be rid of them. T3L2S5
+1798 Future Tech 14 -> 15. Space ship is now launchable. Midland and Damascus founded. German Cologne subverted for 2x155. Spy escaped. Got 27g and Cannon. Greek Eretria bribed for 460g. Spy escaped. Got 110g, 3 soldiers, and 3 structures. Domestic deliveries for 720, 154, 445, 1794, 554. Coal to Babylonians for 82. Mongol Heidelburg subverted for 2x287g. Spy captured. Got 215g and 2 riflemen. T6L2S2
+1800 Germans kill a partisan, lose 3 units in attacks on me, and steal Space Flight. Future Tech 15 -> 16. Mongol engineer bribed for 260. It builds a crucial road for my 3 howitzers which take down the 5 defenders of Berlin and capture it for 327g, Colossus, and 5 structures. 7 Partisans appear. German destroyer killed. Senate hands Germans cease fire. 3 German partisans bribed for 2x450+400. 100g from last hut. Domestic deliveries for 954, 126. AnnArbor, Kerman, and Babol founded. T4L2S4
Status at +1800
Population: 47.1M; Cities: 74; Trade routes: 112D24F; Government: Democracy
Gold: 210; Cost per turn: 855; Total advances: 85+15FT; Production: 1008MT; 4 polluted tiles
Wonders: built: Marco, Michelangelo, Copernicus, Leo, Magellan, Newton, Bach, Cure, Hoover Dam, SETI; captured: Hanging Gardens, Colossus, Great Wall, Sun Tzu, King Richards, Shakespeare, Darwin, Eiffel, Suffrage, Apollo
Units: 30 Engineers, 1 Musketeer, 5 fanatics, 12 partisans, 9 Alpine, 21 Rifleman, 1 Dragoon, 1 Cavlary, 2 Armor, 3 Cannon, 5 Howitzer, 2 Stealth Fighters, 2 Destroyers, 1 AEGIS, 1 Battleship, 11 Transports, 4 Spy, 23 Freight
Babylonian: 12 cities, 67 techs; Pyramids, Adam Smith, UN; War with Greeks
German: 5 cities, 56 techs; Allied with Mongols
Egyptian: Destroyed by me
American: 8 cities, 57 techs; Great Library, Statue of Liberty; Allied with Greeks
Greek: 9 cities, 33 techs; Lighthouse, Oracle; War with Babylonians, allied with Americans
Mongol: 3 cities, 54 techs; Allied with Germans
I launched a full space ship in 1816. Warfare is ongoing with Greeks; their homeland was invaded after the launch. Germans are wiped out. Babylonians have started fighting with me. Their advanced tech allows them to be rather deadly. Good thing they are spending the bulk of their production on their space ship. Americans are still maintaining peace. Each turn is taking over an hour in real time. It will be a while before I get done as I am heading out of town.
Looking over these landing logs, I'm wondering - why not go for conquest ? Since you are fighting so much anyway, wouldn't that be easier ?
Also, why do the turns take an hour even after the launch ? I assume your capitol is safe, far to the south. So, this is about defending colonies ... or last-minute growth for score ... or it's just about fun ?
Also, why do the turns take an hour even after the launch ? I assume your capitol is safe, far to the south. So, this is about defending colonies ... or last-minute growth for score ... or it's just about fun ?
My plan was to buy some choice cities of my former allies, gain access to North shore of the huge continent, and engage in warfare with aggressive Mongols and Greeks while launching a space ship. Things however did not turn out that way. Babylonians and Egyptians became too demanding and eventually I had to say no to their demands at the cost of the alliance. Later on warfare broke out with Egyptians and I had to wipe them out. Next Germans got nasty and I had to wipe them out too. (Originally I planned to just ignore them and their homeland.)
I could have kept the peace by limiting my settlement to the southern part of the huge continent, which had plenty of room for growth, and concentrate more on the space race. I would have probably been done by now had I done that.
By the time major warfare broke out, I was too heavily invested in a space ship to give it up.
You got it. I have a large empire which is still growing in the North. I have been at war with 2 and sometimes 3 rivals. And finally this thing is too much damn fun!
I think the last turn I played is 1820. Greeks will be gone in 1-2 more turns. Americans have still kept the peace. Mongols are down to 1 pet city. Babylonians have lost a few cities to bribery but are still pretty strong. I lose a few units to them every turn.
I've just started my game. Don't have enough time to finish it in time so I will skip this one and play GOTM 116. To bad pc problems caused I could not play for a month....This looked like a great map to play. Chose for early republic and hoping to get some trade quickly....
