You and me both! One thing I learned is I play too slow and don't score well! On the other hand, this GOTM was only my fourth Civ IV game ever, so I am pleased to find myself in the top fifty. Of course, I say this knowing that some of the games "below" me in the standings were actually far, far superior. Cultural victory in 1490 AD? Are you kidding? DaveMcW's civ was in the clubhouse having a victory beer before I had killed off my second opponent. Oops, wait a second... his was a cultured civ... I suppose they were sipping fine champagne. Hard to believe that scored less points than my slow domination... Congratulations to all the winners! Not only stunning scores and finish times , but some superb spoiler write-ups to go along with them. I am very impressed that so many people are willing to share their "special sauce", knowing it will make the competition tougher in the future. Thanks!