GOTM 41: Final Spoiler

Fantastic result Mark :crazyeye: Now that i thought i would get my first prize with a 175? 20K finish :( As always i did the mistake to cripple the home continent civs so bad that a leader factory was virtually impossible. I could only rush 2 wonders. So stupid :mischief: Well, next time ill try to remember that 20k in PTW means that i must produce GL
 
Darn, I won't be finishing this one. I've taken on a RL assignment which is rather intense and is leaving no time for anything else at all, not even staying caught up on reading here. My game was en-route to a milk run with Spain down to one town and everyone else gone at 680AD. But I only played it a few turns past that before taking on this task and haven't played it any farther.

It is doubtful I'll be able to take time out for COTM11 either though I really want a 20K win in Conqests ;)
 
MiniMe said:
@SirPleb, sad that means I wont be able to compare my milkrun to yours :( ;)
It was a great map for a milk run I think. I had hopes of setting a new alltime high Jason score on this one. Oh well.
MeteorPunch said:
@SirPleb: why not just kill the last city and get a conquest?
:blush: Because I'm an idiot and didn't think of it. Thank you. I've just spent a whole minute doing that and squeeked in a submission under the wire. I'm afraid I won't be able to get a writeup done though - at the moment I'm just work-eat-sleep rinse/repeat :lol:
 
SirPleb said:
Thank you. I've just spent a whole minute doing that and squeeked in a submission under the wire.
Well done ;) The wire's still not down yet. Ainwood gave an extra 24 hours on the deadline because of the slightly delayed release.
 
SirPleb said:
:blush: Because I'm an idiot and didn't think of it. Thank you. I've just spent a whole minute doing that and squeeked in a submission under the wire.
It's a good idea to focus on your victory condition, but that is taking to the extreme! :lol:
 
SirPleb said:
It was a great map for a milk run I think. I had hopes of setting a new alltime high Jason score on this one. Oh well.

For sure I didnt :lol: Man, it would have been great being able to learn from your milking.
 
SirPleb said:
It was a great map for a milk run I think. I had hopes of setting a new alltime high Jason score on this one. Oh well.
I don't think this map would allow a record high milk for Jason.
There isn't enough bad land to leave empty.
It sure is an easy map to milk. You can start early to work only the best parts.
But in the end you have to beat the Jason best score estimate. For that the land you work has to be much better than the average of the land on the map. For that the map is not well suited, the land you don't work will be still pretty good, lowering your average.
 
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Made it with 3 hours to spare! 1440 AD date for my 100K Victory. (about a 100 year improvement over my best earlier date.)

I stayed in Despotism the entire game; the ability to Draft and pop-rush was nice (IA in 640 AD, Free Steam Power, researched Electricity (740) and Replaceable Parts (840), took 2 turns of Research on Nationalism to convince Osman to Trade, started Drafting Infantry in 860), but the Despotism penalty really hurt the growth potential and rate. This is about the only time I've really explored (or done) extensive Drafting; the F1 screen organized by the Population column really helped out in Drafting! Despotism allows a double draft every turn, so I quickly got my largest cities down to size 6, then every turn I hit F1, selected the 'Population' column, and went down city by city, drafting, until I hit the Pop 6 cities; repeat next turn. To speed things up, I only spent every 5th turn to rush cultural things. I also limited (because I knew I was short on time) my game to cities only on my initial continent; I was able to cram 111 cities in, and they all had the basic Library, Temple and University by the end, and a handful had Cathedral. This got me to just over 1200 cpt, and Shift-Enter was my best friend until the game's end (just stopping to renew Luxury deals as they expired).

Very happy to submit this game; Pyramids are quite the Wonder for 100K. I'll take a shot at Korea, but it will have to be really, really fast. Thanks, Ainwood, and the staff for a fun game! :thumbsup:
 
PtW, open class, trying for a 20k victory.
First the important stats: 124 hours played, submitted with 8 hours to spare ;)

Now I normally make sure to have at least one moment of monumental stupidity in my xOTM, and in this game my mistake was winning! No, not an accidental domination, it's dumber than that... but before I relive the agony, I'll recap the glory years.

Ancient era:
I thought my AA was pretty competitive, using my capital for the 20k attempt. I didn't lose any big builds, although I had to delay the completion of the Great Library for several turns while I researched Republic and then waited out 4 turns of anarchy. Finishing the Glibrary initiated my golden age, which would end the same turn I entered the medieval. I ended the AA in 30ad with palace, temple, Pyramids, library, Glibrary and Gardens, for 1123 culture (33cpt).

Medieval era:
This started with a dow from Rome, so I pressed my immortals into late service, eventually reducing Caesar to a single jungle city, where he spent the rest of the game (thanks to Moth for describing this technique in the AA spoilers). Japan wouldn't declare until I extorted some cities from them and then failed a spying mission. Of course, that's because they were one of the weediest AI empires I've ever seen, for no good reason that I can think of.
I used my first great leader, earned against Rome, to build an army of immortals. My second, earned in the dying moments of the Japanese campaign, built Forbidden Palace in Kyoto. I believe the decision to forego a free wonder in the 20k city, in favour of a good second core, enabled me to keep my research so relentless in the later game.
I ended the medieval in 1210ad with cathedral, colosseum, the Epic, Michaelangelo, university, Copernicus, Shakespeare and Newton, for 6570 culture (82cpt).

Industrial era:
It was only at the start of the industrial that I realised Caesar was probably slowly building defensive units in his 1-tile town. I could use cannon to check whether he had more than one, then kill off the excess with my elite immortals. This is how I got my third leader. Up to this point, I had considered trying the whole 20k without any leader rushing, but presented with such unexpected bounty, I cracked and rushed Suffrage.
The rest of the era went to the usual plan, cash rushing industrial improvements as soon as they became available, and building the industrial wonders before the AI even had sight of their techs. The 20k city maxed out at 102spt net at size 21; over the hundred mark is so important, and it was just enough to absorb a bit of pollution every so often.
The industrial era ended in 1510ad, having built all industrial great and small wonders, for 11607 culture at 97cpt.

Modern era:
In 1580, the Ottomans dowed on me - the Sipahis' ongoing success against the feeble Celts must have gone to Osman's head. I hadn't planned on ever setting foot on Large Continent, but the opportunity to annex some luxury sources was what persuaded me to go and put Osman in his place. Besides, with nothing left to build in my core cities, I had started stockpiling bombers.
A couple of naval builds later, I had two tank armies liberating the first Celtic town from Ottoman oppression, with Brennus as my ally. I wasn't defending his towns of course, just waiting for Osman to capture them, and then claiming them for myself. This dance wound down in the mid 18th century with both Celts and Ottomans reduced to city-states.
It was while working on the Cure that I get my fourth leader from the much-abused Romans. I rushed Cure and finished up the last wonders, Bomb and SDI in 1772. At 135cpt, victory was due in 1794ad, but sleep deprivation had made me careless!

The mistake:
When the Ottomans were clearly beaten, I had again found myself with nothing to build in my core cities, so I started doing SS parts for fun. What I didn't realise was that when you build the final part, you can't cancel the SS screen, as you would if you had got there using F10. In 1780ad, the SS Casing finished and I was forced to launch! All my meticulously-planned builds orders and research schedules squandered! Ah well, I'll have to wait for another game to claim my first 20k victory...

General notes:
Firaxis score 5005 (happies > territory), Jason score 7279, national culture 88412, capital's culture 19113.
This was supposed to be a quick game to buy me a bit more breathing space in my xOTM schedule, but it soon turned into a milking session. I had hit the luxury slider early and hard in order to keep the 20k city ticking over, with the result that the rest of my empire was scoring unusually highly. Indeed, I was secretly hoping for a better Jason score, but restricting myself to the smaller continent (until the very end) was always going to be a limiting factor, not least because Osman had the foodiest land on the map. I also wasn't very aggressive in clearing the jungles.
I don't understand why the AI were so weak in this game. Japan had only built four or five towns by the mid-medieval when I started on them, and they weren't properly roaded up. In tech terms, the AI still had to do Radio to reach Modern, while I only needed Stealth and Advanced Flight to reach Future.
 
I played this one out quickly and got it in about a day before the deadline. I conquered the Continent with Imoortals, got a leader in Roman war for FP in old Japan, typical stuff like that.

Went for space, managed 4-turn research for most all Industrial techs and all Modern techs aside from Minaturization. Still I lost a few turns in the Middle Ages that ended being why I won't be taking home the SS award for this one. Ended up with a 1340 AD launch, not too bad, but could have been better.
 
PaperBeetle said:
Firaxis score 5005 (happies > territory), Jason score 7279, national culture 88412, capital's culture 19113.
I think that that is the funniest thing I've ever heard. That'll teach you to get bored and build a space ship ;)
 
klarius said:
But in the end you have to beat the Jason best score estimate. For that the land you work has to be much better than the average of the land on the map. For that the map is not well suited, the land you don't work will be still pretty good, lowering your average.
On the other hand, I think this map allowed reaching the maximum per-turn score considerably sooner than the Jason score expects, and there were also a good number of sea tiles along fairly straight coastlines which could be used for some advantage. Still, you might be right, the land quality might've limited the result too much for a new high. I guess I won't be finding out now :)
 
As I was asking myself the same question, I tried to kill time analysing the publication dates of past results-issues:

Gotm 40: 20.3.
Gotm 39: 3.3. :eek:
Gotm 38: 20.1.
Gotm 37: 26.12.
Gotm 36: 23.11.
Gotm 35: 22.10.

We need to be patient... :crazyeye:
 
Uh uh... i just realized that my submission will probably be rejected :(

While playing, i had a major OS f*ckup that forced me to format c:\ and reinstall everything from scratch. I copied the saved files but not the autosaves, and so i had to reload the last save available and replay a dozen turns or so... the ironic things is that i actually was damaged by such a thing. I wasn't able to replay exactly the turns and my combat stats were greatly worse than in the original timeline.

Albeit this accident, and some stupid errors later, i achieved a nice score. Given the situation, i hope that i'll be condoned. But if my submission will be discarded i won't rant about it. Rules are rules after all.
 
Crashes happen, specially WIndows ones :p If they happen a lot then we need to help you sort out the problem. But in an isolated instance, and as long as you didn't take advantage of it to play the game differently with prior knowledge, your game will be included.
 
Well, thanks! :thumbsup:

I got worried by this after i saw what it looks like a case of blatant cheat in GOTM39. When such things happen, usually rules are strictly enforced so to discourage others to do the same. Glad to know that the "honour system" still works.

No prior knowledge acquired. I was still in the home landmass, with almost full map knowledge of the home continent and no contact with the civs oversea. The turns replayed are about 700BC-500BC (not sure about the dates, i should check the log supposing i still have it).
 
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