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Governments and Politics

Discussion in 'Civ5 - Stories & Let's Plays' started by Civleader, Jun 30, 2011.

  1. Jehoshua

    Jehoshua Catholic

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    At the palace immediately after advising the king of kings (may he live forever) Jehashuthra witnessed the arrival of a noble of the persian people by the name of Filli Noctus who gave him a look that betrayed the thought that he considered (erroneously) that Jehashuthra is a mere peasant.

    True, a mere humble citizen of the empire is Jehashuthra, but so is the arrogant Filli Noctus, for all grovel in awe before the ordained ruler of Persia as is their rightful station before he who is the elect of Ahura Mazda, and all serve in due measure each according to their works the Persian Empire for the greater good in the name of truth. Needless to say I add that clearly he is ignorant of the ways of Persian Nation if he thinks a commoner of the lower social orders would walk amongst the halls of the King of Kings even in this day and age where emerging from nomadism all save he who is our lord are equal in all but title. Only they who earn their place by merit, or are given although unworthy the honour by the merits of their ancestors are fit to walk in the halls of the King of Kings.

    Furthermore mused Jehashuthra to certain other emminent citizens, although this Filli Noctus held a veneer of reverance and went through the motions of the proskynesis that is rightfully due before the ordained ruler of Persia, it was of a superficial manner that betrayed clearly that he was posessed of the sin of undue pride and all that flows from it in an attitude contrary to the virtues of righteous dominion, devotion and good mind that are immortalised through and in the Amesha Spenta. It is unfortunate to see a Persian fall away from the righteousness of Ahura Mazda and the sublime Asha (truth) and become posessed in the snares of he who is only death Angra Mainyu (Ahriman), and his hordes of Daevas (opposites to the Yazata and the Amesha Spenta with 7 Arch-Daevas mirroring the Amesha Spenta and many lessser Diws [lower Daevas] mirroring the Yazata) and fallen into Druj (lies). Alas through Druj it has come to pass that a noble has lost his nobility in truth, and has lessened the Persian nation. I only hope that his Fravashi (guardian spirit) enlightens his mind and restores to him the serene nobility that befits a righteous man.

    Looking back on the incident of the prideful man the most outrageous and indeed the most laughable thing that this Daevayasni brought to the audience was that he simply repeated the sound advice of Jehashuthra and somehow thought that the appearance of nobility and power was the true measure of a mans worth. He does not see that it is the three virtues of good word, good thought and good deed that together create a good mind and a righteous and pure man. It is clear that this noble lacks the truth and wisdom that is the blessing of Ahura Mazda. For it is said in the teachings of Ahura Mazda.


    "Purity is for man, next to life, the greatest good is that purity is procured by the law of Mazda to him who cleanses his own self with Good Thoughts, Words, and Deeds."

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    On another matter here is a quote to refresh the memory of Filli Noctus, which unfortunately has been clouded by Druj born of Angra Mainyu

     
  2. Tambien

    Tambien Theseus, Duke of Athens

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    I suggest Yelamxealef as the name for the Domestic Advisor.
     
  3. Ian7

    Ian7 Youngest Civver I know!

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    I'll be watching but not playing, I hope somebody secedes and manages to succeed in forming a new nation, imaginary cookie for person who renames seceded city coronet city, there nation Corellia and people Corellians.
     
  4. Jehoshua

    Jehoshua Catholic

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    OOC: Why would anyone want an imaginary cookie :p

    The only reason anyone would secede is if the benefit outweighed both the potential reward for remaining apart of the united empire and the exceedingly high risk factor involved in the action itself. Considering these two things I would tentatively say that secession would be exceedingly rare in this game just due to these factors.

    However I could see it occuring if a single person, or cabal of people is monopolising power and it is overwhelmingly difficult to displace them through assasinations or other such means, all the while simultaneously in the empire there is some sort of ethnic discontent establishing an opportunity to establish a separate power base from the ruling powers. In that scenario perhaps the disenfranchised players would take the risk and attempt to secede from the empire. But naturally they would be taking a huge chance (ie war with the powers) and it would require a massive leap of faith on their part (or assidious backdoor dealing and planning).

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    As to the advisors I would just leave the names as they are as then any casual observor gets the drift immediately when he sees 100 pages down the line in this game a little advisor quote of messages to the current ruler.
     
  5. juKar-C

    juKar-C Warlord

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    What happened to Civleader? Wasn't there a mid session report...hmmm
     
  6. Jehoshua

    Jehoshua Catholic

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    OOC: He will be on later in due time, look at the times he was on in his earlier posts (in the red line above the posts) and you will see the general timeframe he comes online to grace the virtual halls of these forums.

    addendum: Patience is a virtue :p
     
  7. juKar-C

    juKar-C Warlord

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    Should be on soon?

    Quick question, do we have 2 movements or 1 per turn? 1st post says 1 and 4th post says 2.
     
  8. Jehoshua

    Jehoshua Catholic

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    OOC: One can make only a single movement per turn. The fourth post is merely saying that certain one can move two tiles in a turn and do a select few actions which would ordinarily alone be a movement and they will together be considered only a single movement.

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    Also in regards to the mid-session report our glorious King of Kings (may he live forever) has been absent and thus no decision have thus far been made this session so far. So perhaps the report will be delayed due to this. Although PlyPlay665 could come online at a later time of course and rubbish that possibility.
     
  9. juKar-C

    juKar-C Warlord

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    Oops I meant post #2 lol, maybe its a typo
     
  10. Jehoshua

    Jehoshua Catholic

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    OOC: The section specifically related to movements says that only one movement is permitted within the protocol I mentioned earlier. Considering that the post directly relating to movements says thus, protocol would dictate that it takes priority over this addendum to another section and is to be ignored and discounted.

    It is likely a typological error in my opinoin.
     
  11. juKar-C

    juKar-C Warlord

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    Yes I think so too, two movements per turn for each player might be too much for Civleader to handle. Shall remind him of this error =P
     
  12. grzybek

    grzybek The Mad Sciencist

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    OCC: Do I get the rules correctly? We play 1 round every 12 hours? When does the CivLeader sleep then? :)
     
  13. Jehoshua

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    OOC: presumably he is making a turn each morning and evening and sleeps between them. Although I would suggest that he lowers the pace to every 24 hours as the game drags on as eventually there is likely to be a lot of actions.
     
  14. juKar-C

    juKar-C Warlord

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    lol I'm as confused as you mate, I'm sure we can get Civleader to clarify.

    He's probably asleep right now!
     
  15. grzybek

    grzybek The Mad Sciencist

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    OCC: I also think that the pace is too high. One update a day I could do but I cannot guarantee I'll be here everyday. Especially weekends is a time I don't have time to use computer.

    I turn every 2 or 3 days would be enough when it comes to my needs.

    Second thing is that there's still Yahzuk's game. With this pace I'm not sure it will be fun to play both and I don't want to decide which one I prefer.
     
  16. Tambien

    Tambien Theseus, Duke of Athens

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    I think we should extend the session lengths as time goes on and actions get more complicated out of necesity.
     
  17. Jehoshua

    Jehoshua Catholic

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    all OOC: seconded.

    As to CotE, what I do with these sort of games is compartmentalise them. I don;t need a preference for one or the other as they are distinct and separate in my mind. So I can go on stabbing Filli Noctus in this game for example if he ends up as an opposing character and go right on working with him in amicable co-operation in CotE if such a thing were to occur.

    incidentally Filli Noctus should really get a move on in updating the turnset in his own game. The decisions are made and there is nothing more to say so getting the ball rolling would be nice ;)
     
  18. Civleader

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    Good thing you have been discusing the time issues. I was thinking on extending each turn to 24 hour periods, making each sesion 48 hours long. This would give more time for people to play and for me to do everything.

    You can only do one movement per turn, as Jehoshua was clarafying. I am not sure why the second post is incorrect, will have to correct it.

    Midsession event coming soon.
     
  19. Civleader

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    In Persepolis, Jafar was talking to a civilian named Jehashuthra about the new thoughts and divinities of the Persian religion. This is what they talked about:

    This will also be added under the first religion post
     
  20. Tambien

    Tambien Theseus, Duke of Athens

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    I agree.
     

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