GR13 - AWE on LK's world map

[vmxa]

The big stack of transports was 10 turns form any thing. IIRC we had enough to grab all the Australia island, well there are mostly gone now. There are two tiny chinese islands that can be taken by the cav army finishing off the germany town.

I think that will be pretty much all the islands, but I could have forgotten somethig. In any event those will be gone in the next set or two or at least under attack.

All we need is to raze one town and get 1 slave to make an airfield and we can fly in as many workers or tanks as makes sense. Those transports fleets should have had a worker or two in them to allow a quick airfield.

 

[vmxa]

BTW I think there is a decent sized island off of the tundra, but that can be handled with a rush of a transport or two form Buffalo or one of the other places. Just use a spare cav and cash or even a tank.

 

[vmxa]

I am not sure if this is mentioned anywhere, but we have an army form the MA floating around. I think it was heading to the Americas. It is empty.

 

[M60A3TTS]

RIght now we still have time as S America will take time, but I would like to finish S America and the islands at about the same time (if possible).

That would be rather difficult as all of South America fell on Turn 6. The invasion of Australia and Greenland are underway as well. Will finish up tomorrow.

 

[M60A3TTS]

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Pre-turn Upgrade a few infantry to Mech.

IBT- Lose two unprotected transports to an Aztec frigate and American cruiser.

1834AD Turn 1-
Houston taken by 41st Tank Army. 2 gold.
26th Tank Army captures Baltimore.
30th Cav Army Captures Iro capital Grand River with Smith’s.
GPT goes from -816 to -613, so maybe it’s a keeper.
Tank captures Miami for 378 gpt.
24th Cav Army captures Atlanta.
38th Tank Army razes New York
Tank destroys Minneapolis for 2 gold
11th Cav Army captures Xochicalco
2nd Cav Army destroys Woomera.
Battleship sinks Aztec frigate.

IBT- Missed an Aztec infantry that had moved adjacent to an empty town. Aztecs burn Pi Ramses 2.

1836AD Turn 2-
Tank burns Tzinzuntzen in Florida.
23rd Cav Army burns San Francisco
Army captures Seattle
24th Cav Army burns Teayo. Defended by muskets.
30th Cav Army burns Tamuin in California.
42nd Tank Army burns Tlaxcala in Louisiana.
Sell off improvements and abandon Atlanta and Miami.
52nd Tank Army burns Tlacopan.
Capture Detroit for 277 gold.
Tank razes Waaga Waaga
49th Tank Army captures Tientsin 2
32nd Cav Army razes Kwinana
18th Cav Army razes Stuttgart
Abandon Seattle

IBT- Aztec cav attack a couple mech infantry and a tank. We lose nothing. Aussie ironclads bombard a battleship.

1838AD Turn 3-
Bomb out the defenders in some cities

25th Cav razes Ganogeh
10th Cav razes New St Regis
37th Cav razes Denver
50th Tank razes New Orleans
41st tank razes Gayagaahe and gets 328 gold.
Abandon Baltimore and Houston
Mech Infantry captures Teotihuacan
Abandon Xochicalco
36th Cav captures Tenochtitlan
26th Tank razes Atzcapotzalco
Abandon Tenochtitlan
21st Cav razes Texcoco
All of continental North America is ours
Invasion of Australia begins
Abandon Tientsin 2
Assorted medieval and ancient Aussie units killed by bombers adjacent to Adelaide

IBT- Quiet

1840AD Turn 4

13th Cav captures Adelaide
Tank kills Aussie musket
49th Tank Army razes Mongol capital New Kazan with 956 gold.
5 Aztec defenders taken out of new capital and Tlateloco is taken
Lose a battleship to a damaged American cruiser near England. Take out the cruiser with a destroyer.
Now we crawl down the Yucatan Peninsula for a bit.
Raze Malinalco

IBT- Half a dozen Aztec cav suicide themselves on a tank army trying to retake their capital. The magnificent medieval army of Australia comes forward to meet our tanks in the field of battle.

1842AD Turn 5

45th Tank Army captures Tula
7th Cav Army captures the Great Wall in Calixtlahuaca
23rd Cav captures Barinas. Now moving into South America
Mech infantry razes New Grand River for 408 gold.
Bomber sinks an American destroyer
Sink 3 Aussie ironclads
13th Cav captures capital of Canberra
Get two MGLs as the Australian forces are badly beaten. First they get bombed and then the tanks finisf up. A couple rifles defended, but mostly muskets and below. Only about 3 of 30 survive as I run out of attackers.
Tank razes Tatung 2

IBT- Quiet

1844AD Turn 6

28th Cav razes Caracas
Tank captures Merida
23rd Cav captures Caicara. Looks like the Aztecs have one infantry defender and then musket/rifle below that. Tank/Cav army deals with that combo effectively.
Mech infantry captures Maturin.
44th Tank captures Acarigua
Mech infantry snags a couple workers. It’s just a leisurely drive down the West Coast highway now.
46th Tank Army takes Belem.
45th Tank captures Neuquen
53rd Tank captures Santiago del Estero
21st Cav takes Mar del Plata
11th Cav takes Mendoza
Tank captures Avellaneda
Mech captures Buenos Aires
Mech captures Salta
Mech captures Cordoba
Mech captures New Punjab, which is on the South American east coast of all places.

It’s so absolutely bizarre, it’s like the Aztecs built virtually no cultural buildings in the southern part of the continent. So all of these cities are wide open to anything that isn’t foot infantry. We continue on.

Tank captures Rawson
36th Cav razes Santa Fe
Tank overruns India salt colony
MGL at Rosario
Tank captures Rosario
Tank captures Indus for 12 gold defended by India rifle. Another South American east coast town.
38 Tank Army takes San Juan
Tank Army captures San Luis.

We have run the entire length of South America to this point.

Tank razes Tucuman
MGL at La Plata
Tank razes La Plata
36th Tank Army captures Recife
Tank captures La Matanza
42nd Tank Army captures Bariloche
Tank razes Bahia Blanca and captured a catapult. Must be living right.
We suffer our first loss, a tank to a defending reg musket in a pop 7 town. Well at least it wasn’t a spear.
Wow, that puppy was redlined, so I tried an elite* cav and lost that too! Swine.
Elite Mech infantry kills the sucker and razes the town.
Tank razes Fortaleza
Cav captures Esnerakda
Mech captures San Cristobal, the Aztec capital.
Tank captures Nova Iguacu
Tank captures Sao Paulo
Tank razes the new Aztec capital, Puerto Alegre
Tank captures Salvador
Abandon Esnerakda, Lisht 2 founded.
Tank captures Puerto Ayacucho
Buto 2 founded
Tank captures Brasilia
Edfu 2 founded
Tank razes Rio de Janerio
Abandon Sao Paulo.
Pithom 2 founded
Lose a tank, but capture El Tigre
19th Cav razes Coro
Mech captures a pair of workers.
Busiris 2 founded
Kill an infantry at Cumana, but lose a cav army attacking a second time against another infantry.
Lose another pair of cav, but take Cumana.
Cuidad Bolivar is razed by 25th Cav Army.

All of mainland South America is ours. If my count is right, 43 cities and towns fell in a single turn. Abandon all resisting towns in South America.

Now up in the frozen tundra.
Mech captures New Allegheny for 470 gold.
Mech razes Richmond
30th Cav razes Dallas
Jet fighters sink several red-lined American vessels in the northern Artic.

Invasion of Greenland begins. Land 4 tank armies on the southern tip.
13 Cav Army razes Melbourne
Our bombers obliterate the dozen or so Australian reinforcements sent against us.
Tank Army razes Derby that was defended by 4 Anzacs
Trade an Aussie ironclad for a battleship.
Sink 4 other Aussie ships with 2 destroyers and bombers.
Reinforce Australia with more tanks.

IBT- China sinks an unescorted transport. Another MGL from a cav attack on an elite tank.

1846AD Turn 7

The Osiris Canal built
Oiogouen razed for 556 gold
Tlapanaloya razed in Greenland
Tequixquiac captured
Raze New Ta-Tu for 1190 gold.
Abandon Canberra

I have to re-deploy a lot of planes, and not much combat.

IBT- Quiet

1848AD Turn 8

Over 1000 units now. Ah, the power of Communism.
In the north, New Caughnawauga razed for 667 gold
New Centralia razed for 834 gold. Flak was defending, so the Iroquois finally got to flight.
Captured capital of Kansas City for 2 gold. Abe fled to another location.
In Australia, Army razes Alice Springs. No gold.
Tank captures Sydney
32nd Cav Army razes Brisbane
Abandon Sydney
Planted 2 of 3 spies successfully. India holds out.
Abandon Tequixquiac.
Complete a cycle of amphibious landings that puts troops on the ground of all North American tundra islands still occupied by bad guys.

IBT- Aztecs land a rifle and cav in North America

1850AD Turn 9

41st Tank Army razes Resistencia
Mech razes Jilotzingo
Mech razes Hangchow 2
39th Tank Army razes Astrakhan
Mech razes New Chondote for 2501 gold. And the Iroquois are dead.
Tank razes Phoenix for 14 gold.
50th Tank Army captures Brandenburg.
Tank razes Darwin
49th Tank Army razes capital of Chinese, Macao 2 for 10 gold.
2nd Cav captures Freemantle
Bomb America down to a caravel

IBT- Lost another unescorted transport

1852AD Turn 10

Ixtapaluca razed in the Carribean
Tlalmanalco razed as well
Raze Cabruta off the South American west coast
Capture Las Vegas and 50 gold. America is gone.
27th Tank Army razes Rennes
33rd Tank Army razes Ecatepec
40th Tank Army razes Tultitlan
Tank captures Russian settler
50th Tank Army razes New Leipzig
In Australia, a massive bombing campaign cleans out a number of defenders.
Tank captures Toowoomba
Tank Army razes Newcastle
Tank razes Perth
13th Cav Army captures Broome

Honolulu Express arrives in the Hawaii sea lanes.

Then I get an F3 crash. Re-do it.
Sink a pair of Aussie ironclads and a frigate. Move a couple more armies around
And done.

What’s left?

22 towns:

China 4- 2 in Hawaii and 2 South Pacific
Russia 4- 2 North America tundra islands and 2 in Greenland
Mongols 1- South Pacific
Germany 2- Greenland
India 3- South Pacific
Aztecs 1 – Cuba
Australia 7- 6 on the mainland and Port Arthur island off the coast.

I let the AI choose the builds, so all sorts of mobile ADA and junk in queue. Don’t need anything else as it is. Plenty of transports about, I have one additional one heading to Hawaii with 48th Tank Army from the east as our only units in their waters are currently 3 tanks and 3 arty.

Next up should have no trouble with finishing the game in a few turns.

 

[M60A3TTS]

 

[ThERat]

great progress here

now, let's have our team leader have the honour to finish this up


so, are you guys tired of these giant aw games? or would you be up for more challenges? You should know I would be

 

[Beorn-eL-Feared]

That would be rather difficult as all of South America fell on Turn 6.

This one looked too easy
TGL and the knight-cav times were a hard defense to go through, but things picked up wonderfully. Good game guys.

 

[Northern Pike]

Sensational round.

 

[markh]

so, are you guys tired of these giant aw games?

I like these giant aw games and would be interested in another, but with christmas approaching my time will be limited in the next 4 - 5 weeks.

or would you be up for more challenges? You should know I would be

What other challenges do you think of ?

 

[markh]

Awesome work, M60.

 

[vmxa]

Jets, where did they come from? The Iroq had flight long ago as they were bombing me, until I caught the bombers in town.

"I let the AI choose the builds, so all sorts of mobile ADA and junk in queue. Don’t need anything else as it is. Plenty of transports about, I have one additional one heading to Hawaii with 48th Tank Army from the east as our only units in their waters are currently 3 tanks and 3 arty."

Yeah, that is why I stop many of the builds and put the places to wealth. We were running about -900gpt anyway. We had more bombers than we needed by the end of my set and some transports were on automove and did not try to find them and send them some place.

The funny thing about these two games to me is that the AWM was much harder. With the crapping start and higher level, I would have thought this would be harder.

The 30 enemies were able to put a lot of pressure on for a long time in the AWM. All become easy, once the tech lead is ours and we reach critical mass.

If the land mass in this game was about 30% less, then it may have been a bigger struggle. With the AI getting in contacts sooner and finding us sooner.

Maybe the other factor in the AWM was the very high cost of researching. Making it take a long time for us to get to knights and cavs.

 

[M60A3TTS]

Jets, where did they come from? The Iroq had flight long ago as they were bombing me, until I caught the bombers in town.

The only jets were the ones I built, and they were never for dealing with AI bombers, only to provide recon so I could see the results of bombing runs and illuminate certain areas.

 

[Greebley]

Great turn.

I got it and can start playing tomorrow night.

Question: Do the long pauses make the game unplayable for you all? I would love to do a game like AG3 except always war. Problem is that it is slower than even this one. I can post a late game save.

The idea would be a max size map - difficulty demigod - 31 civs. I believe this could be winnable simply because we won't contact a lot of civs right away due to the large distances.

The idea for the latter game would be each player has up to 5 days or up to 10 turns. Its a long game but if played slowly, then it is more managable.

Sadly the delays ruin some of the fun (but not all of it to my mind). Pillaging and razing take a good while.

We could also increase the time each player plays to a full week if desired if 5 days didn't seem enough to get into the game.

 

[ThERat]

personally I shadow played AG3 and I have been setting up a similar scenario recently. I found out that due to upgrading my computer (cos of a certain freaking slow game called CIV), the IT's are now somewhat faster.
Granted, you better abstain from pillaging.

If the team would be ok with such a game, I would suggest a Civ with a fast defender (we can't afford CxxC placement on hugs maps), Civs like Celts or Zulu...

 

[M60A3TTS]

Given the veteran status of this bunch, I don't see delays being an issue. This one slowed maybe once or twice, but we have none of the communication issues that less seasoned groups have.

I'd be up for another.

 

[vmxa]

Great turn.
Question: Do the long pauses make the game unplayable for you all? I would love to do a game like AG3 except always war. Problem is that it is slower than even this one. I can post a late game save.

The idea would be a max size map - difficulty demigod - 31 civs. I believe this could be winnable simply because we won't contact a lot of civs right away due to the large distances.

The idea for the latter game would be each player has up to 5 days or up to 10 turns. Its a long game but if played slowly, then it is more managable.

Sadly the delays ruin some of the fun (but not all of it to my mind). Pillaging and razing take a good while.

We could also increase the time each player plays to a full week if desired if 5 days didn't seem enough to get into the game.

For the most part the delays were not real bad. A few spots where it was painful. The worse part is it is out of your control, such as parts of the IBT.

I am not aware of what AG3 is, so cannot comment on it. A 362x362 map, with 31 civs and more than the minimum water will get painful, especially AWDG.

What would the research cost be such a map? I would expect that game to be a handful. The start and the civ would be important.

 

[vmxa]

personally I shadow played AG3 and I have been setting up a similar scenario recently. I found out that due to upgrading my computer (cos of a certain freaking slow game called CIV), the IT's are now somewhat faster.
Granted, you better abstain from pillaging.

If the team would be ok with such a game, I would suggest a Civ with a fast defender (we can't afford CxxC placement on hugs maps), Civs like Celts or Zulu...

I would think Zulu would hurt as much as help wtih the poor traits an instant GA. Well if we had enough room the GA would not be so bad. The Celts UU is better. Of course you got to like the Iroq and the MW.

 

[M60A3TTS]

Yes, I'd agree the Celts are a better choice than Zulu in the fast mover category.

 

[ThERat]

we played as Iro's in a huge Greebley map before, so maybe Celt's would be nice for a change...


here is the link for AG3, a nice read by the way
AG3