[GS] GS impressions/random observations thread.

[Sagax]

8 National Parks, 4 Jesus-charged Seaside Resorts (coastal appeal was meh), 10 Ski Resorts and counting. Alas, I disabled CV in this game because I'm going for Diplo...

...and Diplo Victory still nowhere in sight. I have to research Global Warming mitigation, because it's the only remaining policy before the bottleneck. I am building GDR out of boredom (and because I only have +3 Uranium in my entire empire...).

Thank God Seasteed is a leaf tech, and Statue of Liberty is still available. Though I don't expect it to last long with Phoenicia in the game...

The WC timer is way too long, can we agree on this? 30 turns on Standard and 25 on Quick is a slog... In Civ 5 the time between sessions actually reduced over time, getting to as low as 10 turns. I am surprised they didn't do the same with the current iteration.

 

[Alexander's Hetaroi]

I found it funny yet weird at the same time that I won a Nobel Peace Prize while in the middle of conquering several cities and at war with multiple people.
Yet, I make so much gold as Mali I don't care how much I give them for the Diplo Favor.

And I don't know if it's been mentioned anywhere but going through the game files it seems Dido's preferred religion is Judaism, though ahistorical.

 

[Mojo85]

Just reading everything and had planned to go for a diplo with Canada. Starting to rethink it now because if it takes so much longer than other victories I'll just end up getting bored trying. Clicking next turn over and over to get to the world congress is not my idea of a good time

 

[Trav'ling Canuck]

He's great for helping with Loyalty issues as you wage war, especially as he only takes 3 turns to establish himself.

Does the Loyalty boost from Govenors only kick in once they're established now? Prior to GS you got the Loyalty boost as soon as you mmoved the Governor to the new city, so Victor was no faster than any other Governor to give you extra Loyalty.

 

[DWilson]

Does the Loyalty boost from Govenors only kick in once they're established now? Prior to GS you got the Loyalty boost as soon as you mmoved the Governor to the new city, so Victor was no faster than any other Governor to give you extra Loyalty.

Nope, it's still immediate. But his bonuses, including the loyalty ones, kick in when he is established.

 

[nzcamel]

I found it funny yet weird at the same time that I won a Nobel Peace Prize while in the middle of conquering several cities and at war with multiple people.
Yet, I make so much gold as Mali I don't care how much I give them for the Diplo Favor.

And I don't know if it's been mentioned anywhere but going through the game files it seems Dido's preferred religion is Judaism, though ahistorical.

I know a certain recent noble peace prize winner who bombed several countries to smithereens and no comment was passed by most of the media on this irony. So, it's not exactly untrue to life, even if rare.

 

[Depravo]

And I don't know if it's been mentioned anywhere but going through the game files it seems Dido's preferred religion is Judaism, though ahistorical.

It's extra weird when she invokes Moloch in denouncing you.

 

[nzcamel]

It's extra weird when she invokes Moloch in denouncing you.

While being Jewish...

 

[Bei1052]

Just ran into a fairly annoying bug.

Was playing as Mali, and was in the middle of a free inquiry fueled golden age when a sandstorm destroyed pretty much all of my commercial districts (don't remember the name of unique district). I repaired the hubs but didn't get the science boost from them, essentially wasting the golden age (along with destroying my economy and about half my population).

 

[darkace77450]

With era score from settling on flood plains and rebuilding after disasters, I'm finding it harder than ever to achieve Dark Ages.

 

[Eva-kun]

I'm happy AI turn time is dramatically down. I'm being on an enormous map, mod for larger size, AI turns breeze through.

 

[DWilson]

I played a game as Phoenicia and the Colonial Taxes worked as intended when the capital was moved but the Casa De Contratacion still applied to the wrong cities. In this case, that included the city where the new original capital was.

The Casa for some reason had a multiple turn delay for me, but it changed less than 10 turns (I believe) later. I couldn't tell you why there's a delay, but it ultimately makes the correction.

 

[leandrombraz]

Anyone else disappointed that the coal, oil and nuclear plant doesn't stack with each other? Also, I'm a dirt climate change denier in Civ VI. That's my destiny. The world can drown on the consequences of my sins! I'm suzerain of Valletta and I know how to use it!!

 

[spfun]

I played 4 games and keep getting CV by accident in the 1600's... Its only Emperor but i put Pericles in. Just so easy to CV as builder.

Uninstalled for now, already bored. Loved all iterations of civ inc offshoots until Beyond Earth and now Civ 6. They don't make em like they used too, that's for damn sure...

 

[nzcamel]

With era score from settling on flood plains and rebuilding after disasters, I'm finding it harder than ever to achieve Dark Ages.

The scores t achieve normal and golden all need a rework still imho.

 

[Boris Gudenuf]

That's not cynicism, simply fact: French nationalism has been very successful at curb-stomping minority languages in France, and to a lesser extent so has Spanish nationalism. Again Basque gets a pass in both countries because of its isolation.

All of which reminds me of the old saying:

"A language is just a Dialect with an Army."

 

[PhilBowles]

Coming towards the end of my game, or so I thought. Hitting 1900, and the AI hasn't made substantial progress towards any victory other than space and it seemed I was a World Congress vote away from victory.

Then, much to my surprise, the AIs not only refused point blank to trade diplomatic favour, but all successfully voted to cost me a victory point - 42 votes against to my 13 in favour of giving me the final two points. I sorely regret missing on a couple of the aid emergencies now (one solely because I forgot to add some extra gold to overtake Lautaro on the turn it finished). Well done to the AI for that one.

Still, there will be more sessions to come and I can probably win the climate gameshow (I have a couple of coal plants but no actual coal left, and I'm in the midst of replacing one with a hydroelectric dam). I'm also a short stab away from first place for culture thanks to the success of Cool Atlas and Unexplained Continents (other civs got all the best band names - Frightened Horses should be an actual real band, and nothing beats Buffalo Buffalo). Though no one's anywhere close to getting a culture victory, which is very unusual for this game stage on Deity.

All told, it's been a pretty good game - probably the hardest early game I've ever had in Civ VI thanks to unending wars eating up most of the first 200 turns. Though it's settled into Civ's familiar hyper-realism of civs denouncing evil Swedes' deeds, Alexander spending several millennia warning people not to interfere with his Short Life of Glory, and most improbably of all America actually succeeding in getting Congress to vote in favour of Border Control.

I do like the diplomatic favour buff to America - the civ's notoriously anonymous but now it really feels like an American civ, throwing its diplomatic weight around, buying its way to victory by funding international aid programmes, and being awarded the Nobel Peace Prize while starting wars.

 

[Greasy Dave]

A couple of great person questions.

I no longer see how many turns left till i earn the great person. I jusr see how much i earned and how much i need. Is this a change everyone has or some kind of legacy from a mod i had installed?

Tbh if its a firaxis change its pretty dumb. A quick view of all the ai turns left is far better than having to do the maths in my head

Second question, now i can see how much each gp costs i have noticed some are more expensive than others. Was this always the case? I missed getting newton for the first time because i spent over 1000 gp points on the scientist before him. Then he popped for about 500 points and the ai grabbed him. It sort of looks like the first gs of each era costs more than the others. This seems new to me? Is it? Has any wiki got a list of the gs and their costs? I dont want to miss einstein too

 

[Siptah]

That's not cynicism, simply fact: French nationalism has been very successful at curb-stomping minority languages in France, and to a lesser extent so has Spanish nationalism. Again Basque gets a pass in both countries because of its isolation.

Quite some languages "get a pass" in Spain, which has multiple official languages and some more that are spoken: Catalan, Aranese, Galician, Basque, Asturleonese & Aragonese are all official languages in some parts of the countries. Spain just isn't as centralized and culturally unified as France or Britain. Although, if you go to the French départment of Languedoc-Rousillon, everything will be in French and Catalan as well.

 

[teakbois]

Incas can get some stupid large cities. Cusco was pop 42 at the end of the game (turn 290ish). Internal trade routes were getting 13-15 food.

Also I actually like new science victory. I of course had 0 Aluminum but other AIs were happy to take my gold and favor for it. And its the most Ive played with the power mechanic trying to get the extra 5 power for the speed boosts. once you build a few of each it goes by fast.