JLoZeppeli, I don't know what you have against your own nation and what harm it did to you or maybe you are just another pseudointellectual that just wants to be different. In any case, contrary to you, who probably only read the FAQs, I read the website quite well, like all the other scholars who also happen to sign it.
Name it as you like. Make you own theories and stay with them. Use as many typical flame baits like taking a sentence someone wrote and making it an emblem repeating it in any chance you have to point out what? That those who spoke the Greek language where not de facto Greeks? Are you serious? Why on earth would someone suggest that all people who happened to speak Greek were Greeks? It's like saying that everyone who speaks English nowadays is Enligsh. And you keep saying it over and over again. It's so obvious that it is idiotic repeating it all the time...
Maybe it's your only argument. I get it. Well keep saying it. And of course don't read anything else on the subject. Like the info on the aforementioned website. After all what do they know? They are only university professors who put their academic reputation on the line just for a rant. lol
I can only give you one excuse for writing your theories. Maybe your definition of someone's ethnicity is just a little bit on the personal, the "how you can understand it best" and the "what serves your purpose" side. You are deliberately using theoretical analysis of someone's origin, like the indoeuropean theory and the origin of some gods, pointing out similarities between different cultures of the time, to come to what conclusion? That the Macedonians were not Greek? What are you talking about? If we use this analysis with your logic neither Macedonians, nor Athenians, nor Spartans were Greek.
You see, in fact there was not such a thing as a Greek back then. And of course that goes for all other civilizations of the time and their ethnic groups which were not united under a common well known word like we know them today. The word Greeks (Hellenes to be precise) was not even used by the time of Homer... In that time Hellenes were just a name of a tribe in Thessaly... So if we use your definition of ethnicity we come to the conclusion that everyone who is not from Thessaly is not Greek after all... Needless to point out that you know all that quite well, but you decide to use this analysis and when you reach your conclusion you choose to make the logical leap and reunite all Greeks together just to claim that Macedonians (the ones long before Alexander like you wrote) were not Greek. As I said, a definition of one's ethnicity as it serves our purpose best... There's an easy way out of this of course. Just look at the Wikipedia for the word ethnicity...
Wikipedia said:
An ethnic group (or ethnicity) is a group of people whose members identify with each other, through a common heritage, consisting of a common language, a common culture (often including a shared religion) and a tradition of common ancestry.
Members of an ethnic group are conscious of belonging to an ethnic group; moreover ethnic identity is further marked by the recognition from others of a group's distinctiveness.
Processes that result in the emergence of such identification are called ethnogenesis.
I wasn't going to write as much, but oh well...
PS. You see raging Greeks in this thread, but I'm just pointing out some facts here. You were the one
talking about crushing our "pride" earlier... lol Maybe your
work experience at the Benaki Museum (a Greek museum for those who don't know) was not the best after all...
No intentions to start a flame war.
Its some of stuff I've always pondered for a long time.
ur rather egoist
Really? Oh what a misunderstanding then... You see, it's rather unusual for a person to express two ideas in a single thread, one in favor of the Greeks and one against them (in order not to be called biased against Greeks and lose their point from the beginning) on two "hot" subjects that there's gonna be lots of debate about for sure.
PS2. I'm an egoist? lol Nice Greek word by the way. JLoZeppeli uses lots of them too. Now where is the poster that will point out how many Greek words there are in the English vocabulary, in order for another subject to blend in and another "fight" to start... Oh wait, I kind of just did... Damn, I guess I didn't see it coming... lol Whatever.
Probably Civgr didnt' read it at all, saw the site and posted it...
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