That's cool, I'm trying to complete my scenarios - people are waiting. I'll check daily - but I'll wait for someone else to make the next play since I just went. If no one goes by Saturday evening, maybe I'll go - just to keep things moving.
Haj01 - World Domination?
- Thread starter Hajime
- Start date
Stoo.W
Warlord
i got it! i came back early so i will upload and all in a few mins!
Stoo.W
Warlord
Turn 1 - lost 1 bowman, built heroic epic in babylon - set to KOT in 7 turns!! ellipi build library- set to MI, javik builds pike set to lib, akkad builds pike, disbanded spear, set to MI, shurrupar set to worker, sippar set to MI, hareid resistance ended,
Turn 2 - built leo's wkshop, nineveh set to aqua, bergen, eulbar and copenhagen set to MI, shurrupak set to aqua, 3 enemy archers killed, 1 MI lost, uruk set to worker,
Turn 3 - 2 archer killed, 3 spears killed, took odense, GA ends,
Turn 4 - 2 archer killed, 1 spear killed, celts get KOT: babylon changed to sistine chapel, lost 2 bows and 2 MI's trying to take stockholm
, 2 MI's promoted to elite, captured stockholm and sunk a tireme,
Turn 5 - killed 1 archer and 1 spear, set uruk to build fPalace,
Turn 6 - killed 1 archer, our spear promoted to elite, nineveh set to market,
Turn 7 - nothing
Turn 8 - nothing
Turn 9 - narvik builds lib set to musket, lost 1 MI and 1 bow, killed 4 spears, captured 2 slaves and took scandanavian capital stavanger (which has 4 wine resources in its immediate border and 1 outside which we can get if we build a lib or temple!!
Turn 10 - killed 1 archer, killed 1 elite spear and took 1 slave and the city of molde, + we are now 1st in world ranking! The vikings are now down to their last city!!!!!
Turn 2 - built leo's wkshop, nineveh set to aqua, bergen, eulbar and copenhagen set to MI, shurrupak set to aqua, 3 enemy archers killed, 1 MI lost, uruk set to worker,
Turn 3 - 2 archer killed, 3 spears killed, took odense, GA ends,
Turn 4 - 2 archer killed, 1 spear killed, celts get KOT: babylon changed to sistine chapel, lost 2 bows and 2 MI's trying to take stockholm
, 2 MI's promoted to elite, captured stockholm and sunk a tireme, Turn 5 - killed 1 archer and 1 spear, set uruk to build fPalace,
Turn 6 - killed 1 archer, our spear promoted to elite, nineveh set to market,
Turn 7 - nothing
Turn 8 - nothing
Turn 9 - narvik builds lib set to musket, lost 1 MI and 1 bow, killed 4 spears, captured 2 slaves and took scandanavian capital stavanger (which has 4 wine resources in its immediate border and 1 outside which we can get if we build a lib or temple!!
Turn 10 - killed 1 archer, killed 1 elite spear and took 1 slave and the city of molde, + we are now 1st in world ranking! The vikings are now down to their last city!!!!!
Turn 0 (550 BC): Considered negotiating peace with the Vikings. End result: No. They had nothing to give us - other then their last city.
MM'd Zariqum (Changed a 1fpt 1spt cit to an entertainer) to prevent civil disorder.
Moved Science Slider to 30% - chem in 10, -6 gpt
Turn 1 (530 BC): Copenhagen produces Medieval Infantry. Set it to Longbowman.
Samara produces Medieval Infantry. Set it to Medieval Infantry.
Turn 2 (510 BC): Nineveh produces Marketplace. Set it to Library.
Eulbar produces M.Inf. Set it to M.Inf.
Sippar produces M.Inf. Set it to M.Inf.
Turn 3 (490 BC): Ellipi produces M.Inf. Set it to Longbowman.
Began prepping to attack Iro.
Captured Bodo - no more Vikings!
Set Bodo to Library.
Turn 4 (470 BC): We discovered Education. No more free techs.
Trondheim produces Barracks - set it to Library.
Ashur produces Musketman. Repeat.
Odense produces Spearman. Repeat.
Izibia produces Library. Courthouse.
Negotiated Peace with Scandanavia - no longer a threat, and no longer exist on our continent.
Began prepping for war with Greece instead of Iro.
Turn 5 (450 BC): Someone made the Sistine Chapel. We got switched to University.
Nineveh produces Library. Set it to University.
Bergen produces M.Inf. Set it to M.Inf.
Akkad produces M.Inf. Set it to M.Inf.
Stockholm produces Spearman. Set it to Spearman.
Samarra produces M.Inf. Set it to M.Inf.
Shuruppak produces Aqueduct. Set it to Library.
Negotiated RoP with Iro, to get troops up to Celt front quicker.
Turn 6 (430 BC): Babylon produces University. Set it to Settler..
Birka produces Musketman. Set it to Courthouse.
Nippur produces Musketman. Set it to Courthouse. (Time to work on corruption while prepping for next war.)
Sippar produces M.Inf. Set it to Courthouse.
Met the Zulu people.
Turn 7 (410 BC): Babylon produces Worker. Set it to Worker.
Ellipi produces Longbowman. Set it to Longbowman.
Oslo produces Library. Due to corruption, set it to Courthouse (Without one, it won't ever be able to do anything.)
Eridu produces Musketman. Repeat.
Eulbar produces M.Inf. Repeat
Turn 8 (390 BC): Aarhus produces Library. Set it to Courthouse.
Turn 9 (370 BC): Learned Chemistry. Set it to Metallurgy.
Babylon produces Settler. Set it to Worker.
Bergen produces M.Inf. Set it to University.
Copenhagen produces Longbowman. Set it to Library.
Samarra produces M.Inf. Set it to Musketman.
Stavanger produces Spearman. Set it to Spearman.
Shuruppak produces Library. Set it to Musketman.
Alesund produces Harbor. Set it to Courthouse.
Turn 10 (350 BC): Babylon produces Worker. Repeat.
Nineveh produces University. Set it to Courthouse.
Ashur produces Musketman. Set it to Courthouse.
Javik produces Musketman. Set it to Courthouse.
Akkad produces M.Inf. Set it to Courthouse.
Uruk built Forbidden Palace (WHY, guys?!?), set it to Musketman.
Notes: Folks, remember, wait 20 turns for war weariness to reduce.
Celts have Horses. Spanish have Horses. Greece has horses (Actually, it has at least 2). Greece also lacks Saltpeter.
Greece looks like our best bet for a war. However, for a war with Greece, we need to have a right of passage with the Celts - unless we invade the Celts for their horses.
Overall, Greece has better rewards, but the Celts offer a faster, quicker, and more effective war. Opinions guys?
Also, someone has been too-heavily-garrisoning the center cities....Fixed it, and we now run at -8 gpt with 10% higher research instead of -10 gpt.
MM'd Zariqum (Changed a 1fpt 1spt cit to an entertainer) to prevent civil disorder.
Moved Science Slider to 30% - chem in 10, -6 gpt
Turn 1 (530 BC): Copenhagen produces Medieval Infantry. Set it to Longbowman.
Samara produces Medieval Infantry. Set it to Medieval Infantry.
Turn 2 (510 BC): Nineveh produces Marketplace. Set it to Library.
Eulbar produces M.Inf. Set it to M.Inf.
Sippar produces M.Inf. Set it to M.Inf.
Turn 3 (490 BC): Ellipi produces M.Inf. Set it to Longbowman.
Began prepping to attack Iro.
Captured Bodo - no more Vikings!
Set Bodo to Library.
Turn 4 (470 BC): We discovered Education
. No more free techs.Trondheim produces Barracks - set it to Library.
Ashur produces Musketman. Repeat.
Odense produces Spearman. Repeat.
Izibia produces Library. Courthouse.
Negotiated Peace with Scandanavia - no longer a threat, and no longer exist on our continent.
Began prepping for war with Greece instead of Iro.
Turn 5 (450 BC): Someone made the Sistine Chapel. We got switched to University.
Nineveh produces Library. Set it to University.
Bergen produces M.Inf. Set it to M.Inf.
Akkad produces M.Inf. Set it to M.Inf.
Stockholm produces Spearman. Set it to Spearman.
Samarra produces M.Inf. Set it to M.Inf.
Shuruppak produces Aqueduct. Set it to Library.
Negotiated RoP with Iro, to get troops up to Celt front quicker.
Turn 6 (430 BC): Babylon produces University. Set it to Settler..
Birka produces Musketman. Set it to Courthouse.
Nippur produces Musketman. Set it to Courthouse. (Time to work on corruption while prepping for next war.)
Sippar produces M.Inf. Set it to Courthouse.
Met the Zulu people.
Turn 7 (410 BC): Babylon produces Worker. Set it to Worker.
Ellipi produces Longbowman. Set it to Longbowman.
Oslo produces Library. Due to corruption, set it to Courthouse (Without one, it won't ever be able to do anything.)
Eridu produces Musketman. Repeat.
Eulbar produces M.Inf. Repeat
Turn 8 (390 BC): Aarhus produces Library. Set it to Courthouse.
Turn 9 (370 BC): Learned Chemistry. Set it to Metallurgy.
Babylon produces Settler. Set it to Worker.
Bergen produces M.Inf. Set it to University.
Copenhagen produces Longbowman. Set it to Library.
Samarra produces M.Inf. Set it to Musketman.
Stavanger produces Spearman. Set it to Spearman.
Shuruppak produces Library. Set it to Musketman.
Alesund produces Harbor. Set it to Courthouse.
Turn 10 (350 BC): Babylon produces Worker. Repeat.
Nineveh produces University. Set it to Courthouse.
Ashur produces Musketman. Set it to Courthouse.
Javik produces Musketman. Set it to Courthouse.
Akkad produces M.Inf. Set it to Courthouse.
Uruk built Forbidden Palace (WHY, guys?!?), set it to Musketman.
Notes: Folks, remember, wait 20 turns for war weariness to reduce.
Celts have Horses. Spanish have Horses. Greece has horses (Actually, it has at least 2). Greece also lacks Saltpeter.
Greece looks like our best bet for a war. However, for a war with Greece, we need to have a right of passage with the Celts - unless we invade the Celts for their horses.
Overall, Greece has better rewards, but the Celts offer a faster, quicker, and more effective war. Opinions guys?
Also, someone has been too-heavily-garrisoning the center cities....Fixed it, and we now run at -8 gpt with 10% higher research instead of -10 gpt.
Stoo.W
Warlord
Sorry - did i do bad with the fpalace? Thought it would help with corruption?! I moved some of the bowmen to the front when still at war with vikings but i didnt want to move them all in case the last player had put them there for a reason! (also - because of monarchy, having troops garrisoned makes people happy (upto 3 i think) and we dont have too many luxuries!)
Also - in my opinion i think attacking the greeks is a bad idea. Sorry!
The thing is, if we attack the celts or iroquois - our empire gets bigger, but if we attack the greeks then we get a split empire with even greater corruption! Also, if we choose not to finish off our enemy, we can create a nice little weak empire border that we dont have to worry about too much (knowing that our neighbour is too weak to launch an effective attack) - Im thinking about what Russia did during the cold war - nice little weak neighbours acting sort of like a human wall for our empire- seperating us from the rest of the rabble! The worst thing we can do is to create an empire in seperate parts - we should keep it together. BIG THING TO THINK ABOUT: do we reaaallllly want to be giving the celts a ROP agreement????? I dunno - i think we all should discuss this before making a decision. Personally, i would like to vote for going to war with the iroquois! They have horses which is what we want (ok the greeks have 2 but we can only use 1). If we was gonna split our empire I would have suggested the spanish: they have a good wonder that we can use (sun tzu's AOW in madrid)! but i am still gonna use my vote on the iroquois!!
Also - in my opinion i think attacking the greeks is a bad idea. Sorry!
The thing is, if we attack the celts or iroquois - our empire gets bigger, but if we attack the greeks then we get a split empire with even greater corruption! Also, if we choose not to finish off our enemy, we can create a nice little weak empire border that we dont have to worry about too much (knowing that our neighbour is too weak to launch an effective attack) - Im thinking about what Russia did during the cold war - nice little weak neighbours acting sort of like a human wall for our empire- seperating us from the rest of the rabble! The worst thing we can do is to create an empire in seperate parts - we should keep it together. BIG THING TO THINK ABOUT: do we reaaallllly want to be giving the celts a ROP agreement????? I dunno - i think we all should discuss this before making a decision. Personally, i would like to vote for going to war with the iroquois! They have horses which is what we want (ok the greeks have 2 but we can only use 1). If we was gonna split our empire I would have suggested the spanish: they have a good wonder that we can use (sun tzu's AOW in madrid)! but i am still gonna use my vote on the iroquois!!Sour: MA was 15 turns, and then IA+ was 20 turns if memory serves.
But yeah. Forgot to take my extra turns, my bad.
Also, I'm against war with Iro for one simple reason: We already have horses.
Check the save, I currently am building a road to horses.
We can war with whomever we want. The Celts look like our best bet atm.
Either the Celts or the Iro will work great, though.
But yeah. Forgot to take my extra turns, my bad.
Also, I'm against war with Iro for one simple reason: We already have horses.
Check the save, I currently am building a road to horses.
We can war with whomever we want. The Celts look like our best bet atm.
Either the Celts or the Iro will work great, though.
Stoo.W
Warlord
But haj???? you mention the greeks and celts as possibilities for war because of thier horses! Anyway - doesnt matter, as long as we have horses. I just dont see the point of a war with the greeks. You said their are better rewards for attacking the greeks: what are they? one more question: why would attacking the celts be better than the iroquois? I thought we were gonna trade with the celts. if we can trade with the iroquois more than we can with the celts then fair enough but otherwise I dont understand why!! (i'm not criticising by the way, I am just asking so that I learn!!)
IMO we need keep on conquering ... but lets reduce the war weariness.. but this time we should coax/lure either the Celts or Ironquois( they got Ivory)...are we still in Monarchy? We should get the nations that are close to our border... that will help us protect our core...
Is Sour next?
Is Sour next?
My thought for attacking the Celts now, as opposed to the initial trade route, is that the Celts are already passed their UU timeline. Stoo, we just wanted to prevent war with them while they had their 2x move Gallic Swordsmen. Now that we have Medieval Infantry and Musketmen, the Celts are no longer feared. If we take them out, we have a clear shot at all the Northern Civs.
If we take out the Iroquois, we still have to make a ROP with the Celts to get the Northern Civs, or sail troops up, or fight the Celts.
At this point we can take out either one though, so it all comes down to long-run intention. Another quick point: we know whats beyond the Celts, but we don't know what's beyond the Iroquois. We also have at least an embassy with the Iroquois, and that could be helpful if we choose to form an alliance.
If we take out the Iroquois, we still have to make a ROP with the Celts to get the Northern Civs, or sail troops up, or fight the Celts.
At this point we can take out either one though, so it all comes down to long-run intention. Another quick point: we know whats beyond the Celts, but we don't know what's beyond the Iroquois. We also have at least an embassy with the Iroquois, and that could be helpful if we choose to form an alliance.
Stoo.W
Warlord
fair enough! I would like to have a go at the spanish eventually (for the STAOW) anyway - so i guess your right. the celts look like a good idea then!
By conquering the Celts do we get access to the northern ocean?Anyone playing? I'm finishing a paper that need to be handed in this week.. I'll hopefully be finish with it tomorrow or thursday. I'll be able to play after I'm finished with this ugly paper...
Edit: Anyone playing? I'm bored I'll wait an hour or two and have a go at it, if nobody objects?
Edit: Anyone playing? I'm bored I'll wait an hour or two and have a go at it, if nobody objects?
Stoo.W
Warlord
go for it civy!! (BTW - if your bored you could always do COTM as well: they've just released the latest one about a week ago i think. I have been having a go at COTM and GOTM the last few months now. My scores are actually quite rubbish and embarrasing but its by playing them that ive risen from chieftan to monarch, and they are good if you can't be arsed with just a random civ game to pass the time!)
Sourboy do want play first or shall I make the prep for war?
Stoo I've tried the warhammer mod last week,it's nice BTW. Haven't had time to play "Civ3" since Sat.
Edit: I got it, I'll play 15 turns... if Sour doesn't object in the next 5mins
I'll post my save first then the log
Edit: Thanks I'll start playing now.. anything you want me to build for the upcoming war with the celts
Edit finished.. look at p.9
Stoo I've tried the warhammer mod last week,it's nice BTW. Haven't had time to play "Civ3" since Sat.
Edit: I got it, I'll play 15 turns... if Sour doesn't object in the next 5mins
I'll post my save first then the log
Edit: Thanks I'll start playing now.. anything you want me to build for the upcoming war with the celts
Edit finished.. look at p.9
