Haj01 - World Domination?

[Stoo.W]

ARMY! I dont think we can use a military leader for wonder building in conquests?! but regardless - I think we should go for an army (we can then build heroic epic and finish off the vikings easier!). Oh yeah - and i dont think we can trade the fruit sour! i think it just offers lux and food bonus to our city - but im not sure on that! - we still have spices we can trade to the celts though!

 

[CivBattle]

so Stoo and I vote Army...
edited my last comment... answers some of your questions..
We should start writing down Elite Defensive Wins 1/32 then after Heroic Epic to 1/24 chance getting a leader and Elite Attacking wins 1/16 to 1/12 after HE to help with leader fishing.

 

[Mistfit]

In C3C there are 3 types of resourses, Strategic/Luxury/Bonus

Strategic (needed to build something):
Aluminum
Coal
Horses
Iron
Oil
Rubber
Saltpeter
Uranium

Luxury (effects happiness and tradeable)
Dyes
Ivory
Furs
Gems
Incense
Silk
Spices
Wines

Bonus (give more food/shield/commerce - Not tradeable)
Cattle
Fish
Fruit (+1food/ +0Shield/+1 commerce - Can only be found in the jungle)
Game
Gold
Oasis
Sugar
Tobacco
Whales
Wheat

 

[Stoo.W]

yeah, thats what i thought about the fruit. I think that if we are going for a military conquest with this game then an army would be much more benificial (especially with HE and later hopefully a military academy!). Anyway - if were only 12 turns or so away from the workshop, we may well get that as well! If not - we have just got monotheism havent we? - if we lose out on the wshop we could at least put the shields into another wonder rather than wasting them! I dont know if anyone wanted to use the leader for anything but an army, but I just thought I would argue its case all the same!

 

[CivBattle]

@ Mistfist and a big DOH!!

I want the lurker comment now... Should we build an Army or complete Leo's WS

And if Ironquois finish Leo's they're just our next step in conquering THE WORLD!!!

I'm NOT going to wait for comments from Hajime an Sour they'll just have to kill me later...

I'm off building an Army to finish of "me own people mate"

 

[Mistfit]

Army is your only option in C3C for Great Leaders. The other option is to hurry science and it is broken. I know for fact you can't rush wonders with MGL's only SGL's and most people turn that option off.

 

[CivBattle]

A silly question does capturing one town of 1 give that gets autoraised give you a RepHit? Soon finished with my 10 turns... Don't want to destroy rep, because one of Hajime's rules was that we could do anything that gave us a rep hit...

Ok... then I'll finish the 3 last turn by taking 3 or 4 towns!
Started writing my thourgh log now when waiting for reply

 

[Hajime]

It destroys att, not rep from what I've heard, Civbattle.

Also, I concur on the army. Armies own.

And I got it - playing.

 

[Stoo.W]

what units did you put in the army? - if we put a bowman into it, do we still get the defensive bombardment when the army gets attacked? (just thought - if we dont get the workshop - or the wonder from monotheism - then we still have the option to use the shields for the epic! - so no matter what, nineveh's production isn't going to waste!!). I think its kind of logical to hunt down the iroquois next anyway, but if they get the workshop, there shall be an added incentive as well. We should definetly keep track of whose got what!! Did anyone see who got suntzu's AOW??

 

[sourboy]

Wow, Stoo, you sure are enthusiastic!!
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My bad on the Tropical Fruit - one of the scenarios I play uses it as a luxury resource, so I always screw it up.
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Army is fine, I'm thinking 2 MI's, 1 MM or 3 MI's.
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No screenshot & discussion between CB & Haj's turns?

 

[Mistfit]

CB is not finished with his turns yet

Ok... then I'll finish the 3 last turn by taking 3 or 4 towns!
Started writing my thourgh log now when waiting for reply

I believe razing cities does giv Rep hit. See this Article by Bamspeedy (CivGod)
<<<HERE>>>

 

[CivBattle]

I'm finish now.. writing the log...
The 1st Army Agum got MDI's. I was thinking of future use!!
The Sun Tzu's Art of War was built in madrid 950BC
the 1 point town didn't get raised , but I think our rep's been compremised
already..every civ we know is annoyed with us..they were annoyed before I started playing

PS! 4 town captured as I said I would

Here's what left of the viking in the south http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads8/Hajime_750BC.jpg
Just to give something while I'm writing

 

[sourboy]

Then what turn is Hajime playing?

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I too heard that 1 pop cities that auto-raze take a hit. Better to culture flip them.

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What are the known ways of rep hits?

Obviously there's being at war, breaking pacts, disbanding slaves, razing cities. What are some of the uncommon or lesser hits?

 

[Hajime]

None, Sour.

I WAs going to play, but I'll play as soon as Civ posts the save/log

Also, remember. Annoyed is NOT rep. Annoyed is attitude.

Attitude can be fixed. Reputation can't. Just make an embassy with them, and trade, they'll like you.

 

[CivBattle]

IBT - Disease in Izibia. Lose our exploring Curragh to 2nd barbarian Galley

Turn 1 (81) - Move stacks toward Copenhagen and Aarhus.

IBT - Ironquois are building Leo's WS. Celts completes The Hanging Gardens.

Turn 2 (82)
Kill an archer with bowman outside of Aarhus. Our assault on Copenhagens starts. 2nd Bowman is an elite he win and gives us a leader
Agum, lose 1 reg bow and 1 vet bow to redline a an elite spear.
Capture Copenhagen get 1 slave, 3 resisters. Capture Aarhus with MDI without losses get 2 slaves, 1 resister. After capturing Copenhagen build the 1st Army Agum and send it to pick up 3 MDi in the field.
Move slave from Copenhagen to build road to Akkad.Move two slaves from Aarhus to build road to Nippur to connect Silk.
-Kills 5, Losses 2, Enemy "Cities" Captured 2,Enemy Slaves 3, Elite Att win 1, Elite Def win 0, 1 Leader

IBT
Nothing Big a few viking archers moving north
Babylon MDI->Markedplace Our economy stinks
Resistance in Aarhus ended
Madrid completes Sun Tzu's Art of War

Turn 3 (83)
Load 3MDI to complete 1st Army Agum. Fortify Damidus The Spearkiller in Copenhagen to help quell resisters. Let forces heal and use army to kill of 1 archers SW of Copenhagen.

IBT - Our People want HE. Quelled one resister in Copenhagen. Zariqum culture is expanding

Turn 4 (84)
Kill an archer at Birka. Kill two archers at Copenhagen. Waiting for reinforcements (a couple of MDI one turn away). Start planing the attack to the south to capture FUR

IBT
Resistance in Copenhagen ended. We got Monoteism from TGL I didn't catch that, suddenly saw that we were researching Gunpowder Sorry!! But since we're after MT that dosn't hurt to much.

Turn 5 (85)
Start Killing off rogue viking archer and spears, kill 2 with no loss.Change Copenhagen's Spear to Rax. Start sending exploring troops south from Bergen, Copenhagen and Aarhus. Send just one from Birka didn't have any stacks there. Raised tax to 50%.

IBT
Babylon Markedplace->Historic Epic
Big Ops Copenhagen's citizens goes marching down the streets
Celts Start building Knight's Templar

Next player go through towns to make building changes
Here is the Save Haj - 750BC

 

[CivBattle]

Turn 6 (86)
Raise Lux to 30% to get Copenhagen's citizens home for the night

IBT
We learn Theology and Chivalry from TGL. Raised lux fix rioting
The Celts & The Greek start building Sistine Chapel
The Spanish & The Greek start building Knight's Templar
Nippur starts rioting

Turn 7 (87)
MM in Nippur take away one food source. Start attacking Oslo and caputure Oslo 1 resister. A viking archer has moved toward Copenhagen I send Damidus The Spearkiller to take care of the intruder, barely survives
Bow and MDI outside Birka kills to archers Bow gets a promotion to Elite
Stack send south from Bergen attacks Trondheim and captures the town and we get TGW.
-Elite wins 2, Total wins 12( 2 elite wins), Loss 2 bowmen
Disband a reg warrior in Zariqum has just built a Pike

IBT
Some culture expanding in Uruk
Shuruppak MDI->MDI (Aquaduct should be in order if you change it Hajime)

Turn 8 (88)
Start assault on Alesund and capture the town without loss, 2 kills, 1 slave,
1 resister
Send slave north to connect it to the empire
Sidenote moving "tons" of troops south, beware of the Celts asked them to move elsewhere. Tax 60% Sci 10% Lux 30%. Move Army towards Hareide.

IBT
We learn Gunpowder->Chemistry We have one source of Saltpeter
Quell one resister in Trondheim
Resistence in Alesund ends.. Building Harbor

Turn 9 (89)
Change Pike to Lib in Birka
Attack Hareide with Army 1 kill still a reg spear showing. Raise Sci 20%
Send some units west exploring find viking borders. Trondheim's Spear changed to Rax.

IBT
Resistance ended in Trondheim

Turn 10 (90)
Capture Hareide after killing spear
Start operation clean up... just one Viking archer in our turf

 

[Hajime]

Skip me.

Comp crashed due to a hd problem.

 

[sourboy]

Stoo, ProZak, Haj available to go this turn. No one has claimed next move yet.

I say skip 24 hour rule for tonight for this round, due to elections (if that's a factor).

 

[Hajime]

Sour: I'm MIA for a bit.

At this point, all I can really do is comment. The Raptor crashed, and I can't really do much without it.

 

[Stoo.W]

Im gonna be missing until monday now! I graduate on friday and i have to be up there the day before! Then, when i come back on saturday i have to go straight to work till about 12pm and then im working all day sunday. Might be able to play sunday night though!