Help with A Resume

[Wacky]

Dear Civ-community you guys already helped me a lot with improving my game But now I'm busy getting a job at a Cruise ship instead of conquering the world I'm going to see the world.

They expect me to write a Resume butt I just found out that a resume in English got completely different Rules than his Dutch counterpart.

Anyone who can help me explain the simple rules for a English resume ?
And are there difference between a British and a American resume ?


Ps. I tried Google but it gives many versions just trying to get some clearance here.

 

[Shrek3]

Normally it is difficult to get a ready made resume in this situation. Google through and get some ideas about the job close to your one, I am sure you should be able to find some useful one. If you are short on time, then there are paid services who can write professional resume for you quickly - usually in a day. Also there are paid websites where you can sign up and download sample resume close to your requirement. Good luck.

 

[Steph]

I can help with a French resume if you want. Can't you change your job for a French cruiser? It would make things easier.

 

[brennan]

1) It's called a CV 'Curriculum Vitae' over here.

2) Make sure you give a full work history, people will always ask you about gaps - assuming the gaps don't mean they bin your CV as soon as they look at it.

3) HR people have lots of little phrases they will be looking for, try to find out which ones are appropriate to your industry.

4) Use an easy to scan bullet-pointed format to get as many key skills and previous duties/responsibilities across as possible. Whoever looks at your CV will be looking at hundreds of the damn things most likely, so you want them to be mentally ticking off all their little boxes asap when they look at yours. Otherwise they'll just file it in the bin.

4) Generally speaking, stick to 2 pages.

 

[Wacky]

1) It's called a CV 'Curriculum Vitae' over here.

2) Make sure you give a full work history, people will always ask you about gaps - assuming the gaps don't mean they bin your CV as soon as they look at it.

3) HR people have lots of little phrases they will be looking for, try to find out which ones are appropriate to your industry.

4) Use an easy to scan bullet-pointed format to get as many key skills and previous duties/responsibilities across as possible. Whoever looks at your CV will be looking at hundreds of the damn things most likely, so you want them to be mentally ticking off all their little boxes asap when they look at yours. Otherwise they'll just file it in the bin.

4) Generally speaking, stick to 2 pages.

A question left:

In Netherland its also called a C.V. Only we write a ''Apply-letter'' where we tell why we want that job and attach a C.V. were we just sum up our old jobs and education. In the Anglo-way there more like 2 in 1 ?

 

[downtown]

We call those Cover Letters, and attach them if they're asked for.

 

[Wacky]

We call those Cover Letters, and attach them if they're asked for.

Alright, thnx for that one.

They only asking for a ''Resume'' should I write any motivation in that ? And how much.

I would rather write a cover letter its easier.

 

[downtown]

Alright, thnx for that one.

They only asking for a ''Resume'' should I write any motivation in that ? And how much.

I would rather write a cover letter its easier.

Well, I can't think of a scenario where you would *only* write a cover letter. I think no matter what, you'll have to write the resume.

I think it depends on the job. No government job i've ever applied for has asked for a cover letter, and that material is usually discussed in the interview. If one isn't asked for, *I* usually do not provide one.

 

[Brighteye]

A CV lists relevant skills and experience, plus work history. The covering letter is just that: a letter that summarises in more elegant prose why the job is for you. Imagine that a CV is just a database of information, whereas the letter is a presentation, using the database as support.

 

[Steph]

A question for my own knowledge.

In France, some companies insist that the cover letter is hand written, because they think that
a) It shows the applicant has some interest in the company, and is not just printing 100 copies and sending it 100 companies
a) some make a graphological analysis of the letter.

How is it in other countries?

 

[Brighteye]

If someone wrote about his 'cover letter', I'd assume it was a mistake and wonder if he were proficient with English.

Have people just not heard properly? Is this yet another Americanism?

 

[Steph]

In France we call that a "une lettre de motivation"

 

[Leonel]

My resume usually goes in the format;

Name
Job position (to let the interviewer know what you're applying for)

Objective (for your case "To serve passengers through customer care etc." Basically a mix on why you want to join and how you can help)

Relevant Credentials (like is there a degree you think would be relevant to the position?)

Experience (What relevant experience you've had in cruise shipping)

 

[downtown]

Have people just not heard properly? Is this yet another Americanism?

It might be. I've never heard the document referred to as anything else.

For that matter, I don't know anybody that calls a resume a CV. Its always just "resume" here.

 

[I'm Cleo!]

I'm familiar with the term "C.V.," but it's usually used to refer to a more detailed description of one's work history (a "curriculum vitae"). If you've published articles, you'd list them there, or if you've worked on important cases (for legal types) for employers, you'd detail them in the employers' bullet-points.

Just the one-page summary thing, though, I know as a "resume."

That's crazy about the hand-written cover letters in France. It's cool to see how customs like these differ from country to country.

Cleo

 

[Wacky]

A question for my own knowledge.

In France, some companies insist that the cover letter is hand written, because they think that
a) It shows the applicant has some interest in the company, and is not just printing 100 copies and sending it 100 companies
a) some make a graphological analysis of the letter.

How is it in other countries?

We had that rule some time ago in Netherland but not anymore.

Anybody thnx for the info , with your help en some Google I was able to write a nice resume

-Edit-
Mod can close this thread now

 

[Valka D'Ur]

Don't forget to include any volunteer work you've done where you gained marketable skills relevant to the cruise ship industry. Skills and abilities are valid, whether or not you earned money while learning them.

On the subject of hand-written letters, I never had any problem with people asking for them. My handwriting is pretty decent, and some employers may think that someone with legible handwriting hasn't given his/her life over entirely to computers.

 

[StarWorms]

CV should include:

1. Personal profile - sum yourself up (optional, not really necessary but it can be a nice addition)
2. Education & Qualifications
3. Work Experience
4. Other (eg hobbies, IT skills etc). If you have any particularly large sections in this, you can make them a new heading. For example, mine has a new section for IT skills.
5. References (usually 2)

In the covering letter you need to grab their attention. Pick out things they are looking for (look at the job description) and show them how and why you are suited to the job. Explain what skills you have that make you suited to the role. Also make sure to explain why you are interested in their particular company. The idea is to get them to think "Hey, this guy sounds like he's got the skills and interest for the job, I'll have a look at his CV". Then the CV is there to convince them to offer you an interview.

Also make sure your covering letter is no more than a page of A4. The CV shouldn't be longer than 2 sides of A4 - make sure it fits the page snugly without any huge gaps at the bottom.