Help with Borders/Tiles around city

[antonsev]

Hi, I doing a duel in a "circle" world map.

I'm encountering the pronlem that the cities closest to my enemy are gradually losing tiles/borders around them.....thus i'm losing strength on the borders and also losing resources Even if I put a strong garrisson in the city this would not help I have one city with only one adjacent tile, that on my side, while all other adjacent tiles have been taken by the enemy.

How can I stop my enemy taking more of my ground/tiles??

How can I regain lost territory??

Thanks Mates

 

[Onagan]

Build culture* in your bordercities. As you gain more culture, you will get land back.
Putting units in your cities, doesn't help with getting tiles back.

The culture slider, wonders, theatre's, library, etc.
Or try to get a Great Artist, and Culture-Bomb your city. It will get 4000 Culture at once

 

[Sisiutil]

You can also run artists specialists, raise the culture slider, run the Free Speech and Free Religion civics, build the Sistine Chapel... anything that helps your cities produce more culture.

Alternatively, declare war and take over the cities pressuring your borders.

By the way, settling a Great Artist in a city, I find, is more helpful at reclaiming tiles over the long term than a culture bomb.

 

[Onagan]

If your city is under great presure, culture bomb is the best way.
If you have the time, settle him

 

[antonsev]

hi

thanks all for the replies....

what is "culture bomb"??

 

[Tibur753]

It refers to a GA creating a great work in a city.

 

[mystikmind2005]

It refers to a GA creating a great work in a city.

It refers to a 'great artist' creating a great work of art in a city.

Cultural influences are something that you need to anticipate well before it becomes an issue, infact you should even consider cultural effects when founding cities in the first place (The AI is a good teacher on how to totally dissregard the impact of future culture when placing cities in stupid places)!

That means you may perhaps consider giving an extra space or two distance away from a stronger enemy city when founding a new city nearby, or give it special cultural priority from day one in order for it to compete later on.

 

[AnitaGaribaldi]

By the way, settling a Great Artist in a city, I find, is more helpful at reclaiming tiles over the long term than a culture bomb.

If your city is under great presure, culture bomb is the best way.
If you have the time, settle him

Vanilla and Warlords you get 20 turns of culture of what your city is producing at the moment of the culture bomb. There was an exploit, you could hire all citizens as artists (caste system) except the citizens working high commerce tiles, put the culture slider at 100%, culture bomb and still in the same turn undo everything. You would loose no population neither money, but you would gain a lot of culture/tile. In my earlier days, I tried to culture bomb a city with low base culture (I didn't know the exploit) and got zero tile back. AFAIK this will not work on BTS and you will get few tiles, specially if it is late in the game. I would always settle (exception: I need the tiles for few rounds - like getting the last one needed for a domination win), it's better you do it early, you should see it coming....

 

[Tibur753]

Vanilla and Warlords you get 20 turns of culture of what your city is producing at the moment of the culture bomb.

Are you sure? I have Warlords and it always gives 4000 . Was that a patch or mod, maybe?

 

[Crowqueen]

Vanilla and Warlords you get 20 turns of culture of what your city is producing at the moment of the culture bomb. There was an exploit, you could hire all citizens as artists (caste system) except the citizens working high commerce tiles, put the culture slider at 100%, culture bomb and still in the same turn undo everything. You would loose no population neither money, but you would gain a lot of culture/tile. In my earlier days, I tried to culture bomb a city with low base culture (I didn't know the exploit) and got zero tile back. AFAIK this will not work on BTS and you will get few tiles, specially if it is late in the game. I would always settle (exception: I need the tiles for few rounds - like getting the last one needed for a domination win), it's better you do it early, you should see it coming....

Great, I hadn't thought of that before - I've been using my free Great Artist from Music for a long long long long long time (that is, ever since my first game when I discovered the concept) to culture bomb and not to settle...and in my latest game I've just past that point.

I think somewhere along the way it got nerfed, because lately I have been having less and less success with the culture bomb, so perhaps next time I will settle him and have done with it.

IIRC A strong garrison will only help really stop your city from revolting and "culture-flipping" (sounds like you are in danger of that already) but you will probably, longer term, need a couple of culture producing buildings in there like a Library, a Theatre, and so on. If you can get Nationalism you can have the Hermitage, which is a good National Wonder which produces culture, and is good for a border city (I made sure it went in a border town which the barbarians took from the Dutch and I, as the Khmer, took from the barbarians to stop Willem advancing into territory I'd earmarked as mine. It ended up called Angkor Utrecht but of course the Dutch periodically wailed at me to give it back...so I put the Hermitage in it asap and made sure it had a permanent garrison and they stopped asking).

Question along the same line: I have never had it happen spontaneously unless I have been at war and there has been a X revolt in Y city I've just captured, but is the "Ravenna justifiably would like to be given lock-stock-and-barrel over to the bastard enemy even though you've just settled it" pop-up the equivalent of the "Lalibela has seen sense and wishes to join the glorious Roman empire so you don't have to conquer it later" pop-up and if I am continuously getting it is it in danger of actually flipping?

 

[Polobo]

Default rules preclude any captured city from flipping back to the civ that you captured it from. It can, however, flip to a third-civ. This can be toggled in the custom game screen.

 

[AnitaGaribaldi]

Sorry, I think I was not clear. You get 4000 culture for your city and 20 turns culture worth for the other tiles. This is only for Vanilla and Warlords. You can read more in this article Culture Mechanics Disassembled.

If you culture bomb and your city is not producing enough culture, you will loose the tile later.