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Historical Tech Path?

Discussion in 'RoM Strategy & Tips' started by Hydromancerx, Nov 25, 2009.

  1. Hydromancerx

    Hydromancerx C2C Modder

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    I was thinking. What would be the most "historical" path to choosing each tech? In other words, picking the techs in the order they were invented in real life.

    Anyone know what that order would be?
     
  2. cheesemijit

    cheesemijit Prince

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    that is a very big question! it differs for every civilisation in history, but as the RoM Tech Tree is Indo-European Centered i would assume it would progress quite naturally for a western civ, assuming you dont rush for a religion or certain tech.

    Do you just mean the very start techs or are you actually asking for the complete order of dicovered technolagies in history?
     
  3. Hydromancerx

    Hydromancerx C2C Modder

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    I am asking in the order they were first discovered. Not to any one civilization but the first to discover it on Earth.

    And yes I mean to write out every tech from RoM in its chronological order.
     
  4. PPQ_Purple

    PPQ_Purple Techpriest Engineer

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    Than compile an alphabetical list of them, post them here and than people will read it and provide input on what tech was invented where, when and by who.
     
  5. DRJ

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    Yeah great idea. Maybe the tech tree can get more historical authencity by that, uncovering flaws.

    Might be funny about the transhuman techs. We could make guesses, or we could quote the sci-fi authors and the year they first described these future techs.
     
  6. Humakty

    Humakty Happy Goblin

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    I think different civilisations developped in different ways : ie : England had longbowmen before France, but France had crossbowmen before England.

    So you'd have to put up a historical tech path for every single civilisation. Would give a fun game having to respect the order regardless of startpos. And probably a short one...
     
  7. Hydromancerx

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    That's not what I am asking. It would be which was invented first the longbow or the crossbow? If the longbow then that would be researched before the crossbow no matter if France discovered it later.
     
  8. cheesemijit

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    I dont see why you would need such a thing, the Tech tree is in a rough order already.
     
  9. PPQ_Purple

    PPQ_Purple Techpriest Engineer

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    Stricly technicly speaking the Longbow.
     
  10. civ_king

    civ_king Deus Caritas Est

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    Earliest Crossbow was 5th Century BCE
    EDIT: I'm going to list them by column
     
  11. civ_king

    civ_king Deus Caritas Est

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    Ancient Era
    Classical
    Medieval
    Renaissance
    Industrial
    Modern
    Transhuman
    Column 1
    Fishing
    Weaving
    Hunting
    Ritualism
    Stone Tools
    The Wheel


    Column 2
    Sailing
    Pottery
    Animal Husbandry
    Archery
    Slavery
    Mysticism
    Naturopathy
    Mining


    Column 3
    Naval Warfare
    Trade
    Elephant Riding
    Sacrifice Cult
    Priesthood
    Polytheism
    Ceremonial Burial
    Masonry
    Metal Casting
    Chariotry


    Column 4
    Seafaring
    Fermentation
    Writing
    Dualism
    Caste System
    Monotheism
    Sculpture
    Bronze Working
    Horseback Riding


    Column 5
    Ship Building
    Alphabet
    Mathematics
    Currency
    Monarchy
    Meditation

    Military Training
    Glass Blowing

    That's a start, someone else can do more
     
  12. Badtz Maru

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    As pointed out before, the longbow has been around for thousands of years, but to use one effectively as a long range armor-piercing weapon of war requires years of very intensive training. The reason the English were able to use longbows in war so effectively before other countries was they had a social system where the yeoman class was required to train with the longbow on a regular basis, essentially having professional weapon specialists in a time when the only professional soldiers held archers in disdain and foot soldiers were almost always quickly trained in simpler weapons after being forced into military service.

    It wasn't a weapons tech that allowed the English longbowmen, it was a social development.
     
  13. f35acepilot

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    I think for the early techs it shouldn't be when it was first invented, but when it was put into widespread use. For example, if you were talking about the crossbow you would only list it when crossbows started to have a large enough impact on warfare.
     
  14. Morituri

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  15. civ_king

    civ_king Deus Caritas Est

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    Ancient Era
    Classical
    Medieval
    Renaissance
    Industrial
    Modern
    Transhuman
    Column 1
    Fishing: at least 10,000BCE
    Weaving: 5,000BCE (or earlier)
    Hunting: Spears were used 14,200 BCE, the activity of hunting is probably well over half a million years old
    Ritualism: what are we trying to represent here?
    Stone Tools: 10,000BCE+
    The Wheel: 4,000BCE


    Column 2
    Sailing: ~5,000BCE
    Pottery: ~6,000 BCE (potters wheel)
    Animal Husbandry: ~8,000BCE
    Archery: ~8,000 BCE
    Slavery:
    Mysticism
    Naturopathy
    Mining 6,000BCE


    Column 3
    Naval Warfare
    Trade
    Elephant Riding
    Sacrifice Cult
    Priesthood
    Polytheism
    Ceremonial Burial
    Masonry
    Metal Casting
    Chariotry


    Column 4
    Seafaring
    Fermentation
    Writing
    Dualism
    Caste System
    Monotheism
    Sculpture
    Bronze Working
    Horseback Riding


    Column 5
    Ship Building
    Alphabet
    Mathematics
    Currency
    Monarchy
    Meditation

    Military Training
    Glass Blowing

    meh
     

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