CIVPhilzilla
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No Wilson was much worse. Income tax, federal reserve, and creating the doctrine of "making the world safe for democracy", all these policies are creating problems to this very day.
History will show Bush to be the worst President in American history
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Well, with all due respect, I don't think you could have a functioning modern state without income tax.
If you wanted America to be basically Somalia or Pakistan, then by all means, do away with the income tax and federal reserve.
If you wanted America to be basically Somalia or Pakistan, then by all means, do away with the income tax and federal reserve.
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Actually, I think if you look carefully, you'll find that it's Bush I and Clinton who are about the same in ranking. Bush II tends to be ranked substantially lower.
Ecofarm
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House Resolution 25 would not make the US into Somalia. It repeals the 16th amendment, dissolves the IRS, and elminates federal income tax.
It's supported (co-sponsored even) by dozens of congressmen.
GenMarshall
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Most defenately, History will show Bush to be THE worst president ever!
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sonorakitch
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Not unless revisionist history is at play...wait...you may be on to something...
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For foreigners he will stand out as the worst. We just have no clue what happened prior to FDR.
Sims2789
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Bush is much worse than Reagan. Reagan ran us into debt and increased the size of the federal government too, but at least the Soviet Union collapsed a few years early because of it.
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Wall Street Journal poll of 85 scholars in 2005. Notice that Bush II is 19th, Bush I is 21st, and Clinton is 22nd. .08 out of 5 difference between the three, so pretty even to me.
West 36
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The only president from my state is frequently said to be the worst 
Franklin Pierce, James Buchanan and Milliard Fillmore were all 3 far worse, and all three followed each other.
Bush is... not horrible. I think history will be somewhat kind to him, actually.
Bush is... not horrible. I think history will be somewhat kind to him, actually.
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Not really. Soviet military expenditures didn't actually change all that much during the Reagan era.
What happened was that by the time Reagan came around, the politburo was composed almost entirely of old sick men left over from the WWII era. Brezhnev was practically an invalid for the first few years of Reagan, then he died. Then Andropov, another ancients sick man took office, and died. Then Chernenko, in his 80's, old, sick, took office and died. I think there might have been a Kosygin.
Eventually, the next guy up was Gorbachev, 30 years younger than the rest of the Politburo. He wasn't involved in WWII. He came up through agriculture. His first visit to the west, he talked about milking machines for cows. He opened up with Glasnost and Perestroika, and essentially dissolved the warsaw pact.
By this time, the surviving old fossils, dying like flies, made one last attempt to keep power, and tried to overthrow Gorbachev. The Russian people wouldn't allow it. It was people power, mass demonstrations and disobedience. Boris Yeltsin himself stood up in front of a Soviet Tank and dared them to shoot him.
The old guard basically lost their grip and died off. The younger generation had been raised hearing about Communism's promises of freedom and liberty, and they decided they'd had enough. If communism didn't deliver freedom, then they'd lay it to rest and get on with their lives.
And that's the real story.
Reagan and his defense budgets never had a clue as to what was going on. They didn't really have an impact. Except that guys like Andropov could point to Reagan's jokes about bombing the Soviet Union and his build up, and say "See, See! The Americans intend to attack any time now!" And hang on to power with their withered claws a little tighter and a little longer.
The truth is, if not for Reagan, communism would have probably ended sooner.
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Not that I'm stepping on anyone's idiotic cherished fantasies.
If you believe that Ronald Reagan defeated communism with runaway deficit spending... basically, writing lots of checks, that's fine with me. I hope that's comforting, as you spend the next few decades paying those deficits.
Me, I'll believe that Communism fell because people believed in Freedom. Because men like Lech Walesca and Boris Yeltsin and Mikhail Gorbachev looked around and said to each other that there had to be something bigger and better and bolder than this, that freedom and democracy were not just words to mouth but ideals to live by, that these men had the courage to risk their lives, to stand up to tanks, to face down armies for what they believed in. That in the end, Communism turned out to be nothing more than a bunch of tired old men, clinging to power, reliving their glory days of WWII as the world left them behind. That in the end, they couldn't stand up to the power of the ideas of democracy, freedom, equality and liberty that they had chained so long.
But hey, its a big world. Anyone who wants to believe in the power of checkbooks, go right ahead. Or you can believe in the power of freedom.
Your choice.
If you believe that Ronald Reagan defeated communism with runaway deficit spending... basically, writing lots of checks, that's fine with me. I hope that's comforting, as you spend the next few decades paying those deficits.
Me, I'll believe that Communism fell because people believed in Freedom. Because men like Lech Walesca and Boris Yeltsin and Mikhail Gorbachev looked around and said to each other that there had to be something bigger and better and bolder than this, that freedom and democracy were not just words to mouth but ideals to live by, that these men had the courage to risk their lives, to stand up to tanks, to face down armies for what they believed in. That in the end, Communism turned out to be nothing more than a bunch of tired old men, clinging to power, reliving their glory days of WWII as the world left them behind. That in the end, they couldn't stand up to the power of the ideas of democracy, freedom, equality and liberty that they had chained so long.
But hey, its a big world. Anyone who wants to believe in the power of checkbooks, go right ahead. Or you can believe in the power of freedom.
Your choice.
jessiecat
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I agree. My fav is FDR ( I know the right-wing fantasists call him a socialist. But they still can't tell a socialist from a progressive liberal can they, or even from a communist either?)
You take him to task for FDR and yet you do the same thing with Reagan, who is also routinely placed in the top 5 best presidents of all time.
tsk. tsk.
in the long run he won't be. Reagan is the only one as bad as Bush.
vikingruler
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bush has been a terrible president but won't be remembered as the worst ever. i personally feel that andrew jackson was the worst and even though bush is pretty low on the list there really have others that have been worse.
I agree. My fav is FDR ( I know the right-wing fantasists call him a socialist. But they still can't tell a socialist from a progressive liberal can they, or even from a communist either?)
Right-winged fascists should love FDR, he saved capitalism.
Romanfe
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lol wel Im only 14 n I dunno bout any other presidents outside my social studies class but my social studies teacher sez hes the wurst to it must be tru
