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HoF Map Finder/Generator Utility 2016-10-05

With version 6.5b of MapFinder, I'm doing small maps with 3 fixed opponents. If I do these with C3c, every new map has those same 3 opponents. With PTW, the opponents seem to be random after the first generated map.

Have other people found this problem? If not, what could be causing that?
 
I had trouble with the rule sets, so I just use all "ands" for what's most important to me in a single rule set:

AND foodbonus > 0
AND freshwater > 1
AND jungle < 1
AND marsh < 1

Overnight I'll get over 100 maps and just delete the ones I know I'd never play, ending up with maybe a dozen really good ones, often better than my minimum requirements...just playing those would take me at least a month.

I've run Mapfinder every night for the past 6 weeks, and I think I have close to a lifetime supply. :p LOVE this program!!! Thanks, Moonsinger!!!!! :goodjob:
 
bluejay said:
With version 6.5b of MapFinder, I'm doing small maps with 3 fixed opponents. If I do these with C3c, every new map has those same 3 opponents. With PTW, the opponents seem to be random after the first generated map.

Have other people found this problem? If not, what could be causing that?
Yes, this is a Firaxis problem.......You need to UNcheck the Quick Start box for PTW. ;)
 
EMan said:
Yes, this is a Firaxis problem.......You need to UNcheck the Quick Start box for PTW. ;)

Thanks. I just noticed the check box for Quick Start in v6.5b. There isn't any text visible next to the check box, but the box is in the same place that the earlier versions had the Quick Start check box. Do other people see text there?
 
Markstar said:
I wonder what the source code for that looks like since seems to be some weired logic behind that. :crazyeye:

I came up with that weird logic you are refering to and I'm really proud of it.:) Just follow the definition of the rule I display in the warning box and you will be fine!;)

bluejay said:
I just noticed the check box for Quick Start in v6.5b. There isn't any text visible next to the check box, but the box is in the same place that the earlier versions had the Quick Start check box. Do other people see text there?

The text should be visible next to the check box. It has always been since version 1. If not, please post a screen shot...may be you are missing a certain font on your system.
 
gmaharriet said:
I had trouble with the rule sets

What type of trouble? May be I can help. If you just tell me (in English) exactly what type of map you are looking for, I will help you with the rule sets. If I'm not here, I'm sure Gyathaar or Eman will help you out.
 
I alway thought that Moonsingers logic rules were very simple & straight forward.

** All ANDs and at least one OR must be true! **

This means that you need to have at least two or more ORs for a traditional booleean OR type choice.
 
TimHobbit said:
I alway thought that Moonsingers logic rules were very simple & straight forward.
I didn't mean it as a reflection on her. Unfortunately, I'm the one who's very "simple". :p I barely made it through a year each of high school algebra and geometry. I'm better with language skills, where there are 25 ways to "say" the same thing...even with foreign languages. Logic isn't my strong suit.

Anyway, I'm extremely pleased with the program. I even enjoy watching it run. And I change my mind too often about what I want in a start to know what to ask for, so getting lots of maps gives me lots of fun choices to look at.

Thanks for the offer of help, Moonsinger. If I need something really special, I'll be sure to ask. You're very generous to offer.

I do have a question. After a map has been accepted or rejected, the gray box has an area that says, "despotic f,s,g" and then the numbers for each, like 4,7,3. I've noticed that sometimes the "s", or shields, is a negative number...like -1 or -3. How can there be less than 0 shields?
 
Moonsinger: Here is the screen shot showing no text beside the Quick Start checkbox.
 

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gmaharriet said:
Thanks for the offer of help, Moonsinger. If I need something really special, I'll be sure to ask. You're very generous to offer.

You're welcome!:)

I do have a question. After a map has been accepted or rejected, the gray box has an area that says, "despotic f,s,g" and then the numbers for each, like 4,7,3. I've noticed that sometimes the "s", or shields, is a negative number...like -1 or -3. How can there be less than 0 shields?

I believe it has something to do with forestry. For example, in despotism and unimproved land, the forest in a tundra would yield 1 shield, but once you chop off the tree, it would yield 1 food and no shield. I'm not really sure at the moment because it has been awhile since I work on it.
 
bluejay said:
Moonsinger: Here is the screen shot showing no text beside the Quick Start checkbox.

Thanks for the screenshot, Bluejay!:) What's up with those color codes on the window controls (such as maximize, minimize, close, etc)? Are you using some kind of graphic mod for Windows?;) I suspect that mod pack may not have a compatible graphic for the type of check box that I'm using. I'm going to correct that this weekend.
 
Moonsinger said:
Thanks for the screenshot, Bluejay!:) What's up with those color codes on the window controls (such as maximize, minimize, close, etc)? Are you using some kind of graphic mod for Windows?;) I suspect that mod pack may not have a compatible graphic for the type of check box that I'm using. I'm going to correct that this weekend.

That's an old version of WindowBlinds. The "Quick Start Game?" text shows up in MF v2.5, but not in v6.2 or v6.5b (those are the only ones I still have on my computer.) The check box itself always shows up.

If I tell WindowBlinds to ignore MapFinder, the "Quick Start Game?" text does show up, so your suspicion is correct.
 
bluejay said:
That's an old version of WindowBlinds. The "Quick Start Game?" text shows up in MF v2.5, but not in v6.2 or v6.5b (those are the only ones I still have on my computer.) The check box itself always shows up.

Since I switched to fancier window controls in v6.x (I gave it a cooler look; that's all), that may explain why it showed up in the older version (less cool).

If I tell WindowBlinds to ignore MapFinder, the "Quick Start Game?" text does show up, so your suspicion is correct.
If you have time to talk, please tell me more about this WindowBlinds technology. What does it do? I didn't know of its existence until you mentioned it.

PS: I will recompile MapFinder to use the classic Window control and not the fancy 3D mumble jumble (since the purpose of MapFinder is to find maps, not to look cool).
 
Moonsinger said:
If you have time to talk, please tell me more about this WindowBlinds technology. What does it do? I didn't know of its existence until you mentioned it.

WindowBlinds is a product of Stardock, and is used to give a different look & feel to Windows; "skins" is the common name these days.
There are hundreds of these skins available. They commonly change the borders and top bars of windows, the minimize/maximize/quit buttons, and the horizontal and vertical scroll bars. One nice possibility is to assign a function to a right click in the top bar of the window; I like it to "roll up" the window so that only the top bar is visible.

Much more is possible--check out the website.

If there are applications that don't work quite right (as MFv6.5b), it's easy to tell WB not to do anything with them.

There's a free version and a $19.95 registered/enhanced version. They are currently at 4.5.1. I'm still using my 2.2 registered version. Maybe I'll try the new one.
 
Thanks for the info, Bluejay.:) Basically, it's another "cool" skin for Windows.
 
Moonsinger said:
PS: I will recompile MapFinder to use the classic Window control and not the fancy 3D mumble jumble (since the purpose of MapFinder is to find maps, not to look cool).

@Bluejay, I was going to do that this weekend, but since you can easily tell WindowBlinds to leave MF alone, I think I will sleep on this for awhile (because you don't really need it at the moment).
 
Moonsinger said:
@Bluejay, I was going to do that this weekend, but since you can easily tell WindowBlinds to leave MF alone, I think I will sleep on this for awhile (because you don't really need it at the moment).

Yes, it's not a problem now that I've told WindowBlinds not to skin MF.
 
Sorry if this question has been answered, but 800 posts is a lot to try to wade though.

I used to use MapFinder on my old computer (with an slightly older version)

I have just recently switched to a new one and last night I downloaded MapFinder and attempted to fire it up.

I cannot get it to run smoothly though.
It never seems to hit the right button.
If I click Start when on the main Civ screen, it usually clicks either "Load Game" or "New Scenario" and if I try to stop it, it often hangs on the "Are you sure you want to quit" dialog that you get when you issue a "New Game" from an existing game.

The only way for me to get control back is to use the Task Manager to kill the MapFinder program.

I am running Windows XP Media Edition. (If that might make a difference)

Has anyone seen this behavior, and if so, did you find a work-around.

Thanks
 
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