HOF Rules Discussion

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I didnt even notice I had already mentionned my thread. No offense taken.
Maybe he didn't sumbit his game either out of laziness, or he didn't like it.
I think that's possible.
 
Just a P.s. to my previous Post:

Even though you can submit Vanilla Civ, PTW and Conquests games to the HOF, they need to be the LATEST patched versions. (Viz. 1.29, 1.27 & 1.22 respectively.)

Exception: The game was started prior to the current patch being released AND is also subject to Aeson's approval! :) .....If he's still "alive", that is! :lol:
 
Thanks very much, Im a big fan of your games too
I read your 20k in the cotm (3 was it?)
To prevent further spamming of this thread, I would enjoy any 20k discussion\attempts in my thread, or you can start another it would be great, as thats all I think about now, and discussions\ideas from others would be very welcome.
 
Aeson - (not that I have any HOF games going, but I might soon :) ) - on "Allowed Utilities" on the Rules Thread, you list TradeAssist, by ainwood. He has now made it into CivAssist. (Check the utilities forum for it!) It takes your autosaves and analyzes them to tell you if there are any new techs for trading, new luxs/resources, new contacts, if a city is about to riot, if you are going to waste beakers on your last turn of research, etc. I would assume that since this is mostly like TradeAssist, it will be allowed, however, I would like a confirmation. Thanks. :)
 
I tend to click on the wrong thing and ruin something. In cases like this, are reloads still disallowed as long as the turn is recreated in the best way possible (just changing what you messed up)?

Also, wouldn't having preserve random seed off stop people from reloading for reasons like losing a battle? Just a suggestion there.
 
bed_head7 said:
I wonder if this hasn't been discussed somewhere before, but I don't care to scroll through this whole thing again. Are Vanilla and PTW 20k victories recorded in the HoF with C3C 20k victories? And, I realize this discussion has been had elsewhere, at least in the GOTM forums, but should SGLs really be allowed in 20k attempts. There is no skill that I see in getting an SGL in 2000 BC and rushing the Pyramids or the Colossus. It just means someone got really lucky.
Adding version categories to any of the victory conditions alone would be unfair to the other victory conditions, so if it were to be done, the entire HoF would triple in size. This is impossible considering that the current tables will take up nearly all our alloted webspace once all the slots are full.

In regards to early SGL's being "lucky", that's not absolutely the case. While tedious, it is possible for someone to go through map after map until they get the SGL they want.
 
LulThyme said:
I remember reading (I think in this thread Im too lazy to check) that youre not allowed to submit more than 2 games per difficulty setting per type of victory.
DO you think we could add per map size, since that is one of the way to sorts the map, it would allow to be on all different sortings for example (Im not sure Im being clear...)
bed head7 is mostly correct. You are allowed two games per map/difficulty/victory condition in the fastest finish categories. The only exception would be the default high score tables, where it's theoretically possible someone could fill all ten slots by having 2games_X_5victories. Considering the competitive nature of this environment however, I seriously doubt that will ever happen.
 
Ginger_Ale said:
Aeson - (not that I have any HOF games going, but I might soon :) ) - on "Allowed Utilities" on the Rules Thread, you list TradeAssist, by ainwood. He has now made it into CivAssist. (Check the utilities forum for it!) It takes your autosaves and analyzes them to tell you if there are any new techs for trading, new luxs/resources, new contacts, if a city is about to riot, if you are going to waste beakers on your last turn of research, etc. I would assume that since this is mostly like TradeAssist, it will be allowed, however, I would like a confirmation. Thanks. :)
A rose by any other name smells just as sweet. CivAssist is legal for play, however it is encouraged that players use the most recent version available.
 
viper275 said:
I tend to click on the wrong thing and ruin something. In cases like this, are reloads still disallowed as long as the turn is recreated in the best way possible (just changing what you messed up)?.
Your safest course of action is to wait until you're healed before attempting HoF games.

viper275 said:
Also, wouldn't having preserve random seed off stop people from reloading for reasons like losing a battle? Just a suggestion there.
No! The preservation of the random seed means that no matter how many times someone might reload, the spearman will always take out the tank. Any HoF submission that doesn't have the random seed preserved will be rejected immediately.
 
superslug said:
Adding version categories to any of the victory conditions alone would be unfair to the other victory conditions, so if it were to be done, the entire HoF would triple in size. This is impossible considering that the current tables will take up nearly all our alloted webspace once all the slots are full.

In regards to early SGL's being "lucky", that's not absolutely the case. While tedious, it is possible for someone to go through map after map until they get the SGL they want.

I was not suggesting adding any tables. I was simply asking whether PTW scores even remained in the HoF. There is a 1575 victory in PTW that isn't on the table, and I thought that due to the change of no MGL wonder rushing, victories on older versions were no longer on the table. But I guess, as was suggested already, that the person just did not submit.
 
bed_head7 said:
I was not suggesting adding any tables. I was simply asking whether PTW scores even remained in the HoF. There is a 1575 victory in PTW that isn't on the table, and I thought that due to the change of no MGL wonder rushing, victories on older versions were no longer on the table. But I guess, as was suggested already, that the person just did not submit.
My apologies for misunderstanding you, I guess in trying to answer all the pending individual trees I forgot to look at the forest. :lol: The honest answer to your question about the 1575 win is I don't know. So long as they're under the latest patch, PTW games are fine for the HoF, so either that person didn't submit or the game didn't qualify for another reason.
 
No problem, my question surely could have been asked in a more direct manner. It was just nice to have a response.
 
superslug said:
A rose by any other name smells just as sweet. CivAssist is legal for play, however it is encouraged that players use the most recent version available.

Ok, thanks for your response. :) Now all I need is one of my SGs to end and I'll put CivAssist and MapFinder to good use. :goodjob:
 
Ginger_Ale said:
Ok, thanks for your response. :) Now all I need is one of my SGs to end and I'll put CivAssist and MapFinder to good use. :goodjob:
Why wait? I'm sure I'm not the only one that let's Mapfinder run while I'm sleeping or out of the house. That way, once you're ready to play, you've got plenty of maps waiting for you!
 
CRpStat - Gives the domination limit, and how close you are to it. Use of Mapstat options to generate knowlege of the AI that is otherwise hidden from you in your game is not acceptable though

... "knowlege of the AI that is otherwise hidden from you in your game is not acceptable"... whaich knowledge exactly is unacceptable?

I'm just going to finally meet these 2 programs, and would like to know what ain't ok.. (yes, I'm swifting back to civ3 again..)
 
boogaboo said:
... "knowlege of the AI that is otherwise hidden from you in your game is not acceptable"... whaich knowledge exactly is unacceptable?
Leave the MapStat preferences on the defaults and you'll be okay. Good to see you back in the thick of things.
 
superslug said:
Your safest course of action is to wait until you're healed before attempting HoF games.
Thank you. It's more of a common problem where I'll be careful. :)
No! The preservation of the random seed means that no matter how many times someone might reload, the spearman will always take out the tank. Any HoF submission that doesn't have the random seed preserved will be rejected immediately.
I was confused. I meant exactly the opposite (I thought preserve random seed made reloading possible.)
 
This is in relation to what has been said elsewhere but it concerns the Rules so I ask here.
re the Wonder Victory...
My understanding is that as soon as the last wonder is built whoever has the lead in the Histograph wins--is there more to it than this? because I don't really see why that should disqualify a game for the HoF.
 
Bartleby said:
This is in relation to what has been said elsewhere but it concerns the Rules so I ask here.
re the Wonder Victory...
My understanding is that as soon as the last wonder is built whoever has the lead in the Histograph wins--is there more to it than this? because I don't really see why that should disqualify a game for the HoF.
Under the circumstances, I'm open to an actual debate on it:
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?p=2384345#post2384345
 
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