How certain are you of an afterlife?

[Tekee]

No no becuase it goes in a Circle, this is the Christain belief, so I don't need to convert anyone or Explain it, but hmmm I am trying but a Monk probably would give me better Ideas
So why there is no Logical Nesscisty is becuase that is the Limit of mortal Brain power, it cannot be answered but Faith.
And plus the End is near! Please log off

 

[s.c.dude]

100 percent belief that there is an afterlife. i beleive that atheists will go to hell just because they know about god and christ and donnot convert. to people who havent i beleive they will be introduced after death. perfection i dont know what caused you to turn away from god but i hope you come back to christ.

 

[Perfection]

No no becuase it goes in a Circle, this is the Christain belief, so I don't need to convert anyone or Explain it, but hmmm I am trying but a Monk probably would give me better Ideas

By that arguement you could justify any belief. Why this one?

So why there is no Logical Nesscisty is becuase that is the Limit of mortal Brain power, it cannot be answered but Faith.

I can certainly contemplate God. Maybe you just got a defective unit.

And plus the End is near!

Evidence?

 

[Truronian]

100 percent belief that there is an afterlife. i beleive that atheists will go to hell just because they know about god and christ and donnot convert. to people who havent i beleive they will be introduced after death. perfection i dont know what caused you to turn away from god but i hope you come back to christ.

Not sure I'd want to go to heaven if the leader is so up-himself that he sends people that don't worship him to hell.

 

[s.c.dude]

thats just my belief i dont pretend to understand anything that god does

 

[Perfection]

100 percent belief that there is an afterlife. i beleive that atheists will go to hell just because they know about god and christ and donnot convert. to people who havent i beleive they will be introduced after death. perfection i dont know what caused you to turn away from god but i hope you come back to christ.

I just don't see any substantial evidence for there being a god. It's not like I have any hatred or disgust in the concept (although the idea that a loving god would send people to eternal torture based on belief does).

thats just my belief i dont pretend to understand anything that god does

yet you're 100% sure he made an afterlife? That seems contradictory.

 

[Homie]

Perfection you say there is no evidence of God existing, therefore you don't.
But if there is a logical reason for something you would still believe wouldn't you? I mean, there is a logical reason for something, although not proven, you'd still believe it if it was the most plausible explanation/theory/idea.

E.g. You believe in the THEORY of evolution even though it is not proven, because you think it makes sense (logical) and that it is the best explanation.
E.g. You believe in the generally accepted history of the Roman and Greek societies, even though none of it can be proven, because it makes sense and is the best explanation based on the info we have.

What I am saying is that there being a deity makes a whole lot more sense than there not being one, and that the best possible explanation is that God exists.

 

[The Last Conformist]

What I am saying is that there being a deity makes a whole lot more sense than there not being one

How so?

 

[stratos_v2]

The problem is you have plenty of evidence supporting the fact that the wireless modem may be recieving a signal from an outside source. You'd have to have no prior experience with modern electronics to not see that as a likely possibility.

Yeah, but there's no reason to believe that that possibility has any bearing in reality. It's on the level of immaterial invisable unicorns on your shoulder.

They certainly do! Just through different means!

That completely ignores all pharmocological and nuerosurgical techniques a staple of psychology.

Just because it isn't impossible doesn't mean you should believe it.

I think i'm gonna call quits.
Since there is no way for me to convince you nor are you succeeding in convincing me.

 

[angeleyes]

I'm pretty sure that after life, I die.

so you only die twice

 

[mdwh]

Perfection you say there is no evidence of God existing, therefore you don't.
But if there is a logical reason for something you would still believe wouldn't you? I mean, there is a logical reason for something, although not proven, you'd still believe it if it was the most plausible explanation/theory/idea.

E.g. You believe in the THEORY of evolution even though it is not proven, because you think it makes sense (logical) and that it is the best explanation.

There is no magic point in science where things are ever "proven". "THEORY" means something supported by evidence. It is the highest "level" you can get in science.

Ideas on the other hand are something completely different - they are just that, ideas.

So, I believe in things because they are supported by evidence. The theory of evolution has evidence. Yes, in some sense it's the one which makes most sense, but this involves having the evidence.

E.g. You believe in the generally accepted history of the Roman and Greek societies, even though none of it can be proven, because it makes sense and is the best explanation based on the info we have.

I believe in this because it makes most sense *given the evidence we have for these societies*.

What I am saying is that there being a deity makes a whole lot more sense than there not being one, and that the best possible explanation is that God exists.

So what's the evidence for a diety? Unless you can provide that evidence, it doesn't make sense.

A diety is an idea, nothing more. It is certainly not a theory.

 

[Eran of Arcadia]

Well, I have what I feel is evidence, in a sense of the word, for God. I believe I have fet His presence in specific ways, and that He has confirmed certain things to me. Thus I believe, not simply because it hasn't been proven false. At the same time, I do recognize that as it is subjective, internal, and impossible to describe, my feelings on the matter aren't supposed to convince anyone. But I cannot say for myself that I have no evidence for the existence of God.

 

[angeleyes]

Please, Eran of Arcadia, can you be a bit more vaque?

 

[Eran of Arcadia]

I could, but then you wouldn't understand me . . .

I have to be vague, because that is the way it is. I believe I have felt the presence of God in specific ways, and that is why I believe, but I can't describe a feeling or sensation to others who haven't felt it.

 

[angeleyes]

Fantasy and illusion make a big part of human consciesness, you know..

 

[Eran of Arcadia]

Yes, and I can tell the difference between fantasy and reality.

 

[angeleyes]

at last, no one can, not even God him(her)self

 

[Eran of Arcadia]

True, but I suppose that is what faith is; rather than being constantly worried that everything is an illusion, I act as though it is real. It has worked for me so far.

 

[angeleyes]

I understand, but you must be desperate..

 

[Perfection]

What I am saying is that there being a deity makes a whole lot more sense than there not being one, and that the best possible explanation is that God exists.

That's an interesting statement! By adopting this frame what additional inferences can I make about physical reality and how can they be tested empirically?

I think i'm gonna call quits.
Since there is no way for me to convince you nor are you succeeding in convincing me.

Well, I don't post to convince you or be convinced. I just post to entertain and inform everyone else, and to bolster my postcount.

Yes, and I can tell the difference between fantasy and reality.

How so?