How many of you will continue to play Civ2?

[Catfish]

I like ToT's graphics.

Based on what I've read in a number of Civ2 forums, your appreciation for ToT's graphics places you in the minority. If I said what I really thought of its graphics I'd probably trip the auto-censor.

I don't understand why you'd want to change them to regular Civ 2. You might as well play Civ 2 and forget about ToT.

If all you ever played was the Original game, then perhaps, yes. I believe Mike also uses a modified rules file for his Original game and adds his own events, taking advantage of ToT's enhanced capabilities.

 

[Ali Ardavan]

The average age of Civ2 players is significantly higher than Civ3 players. Like many other Civ2 players, I am at a stage of life where learning another massive game like Civ4, to the extent that I know Civ2, is too much of a major undertaking.

I bought Civ3 but never spent enough time on it to really enjoy it. I doubt I will even bother buying Civ4. Not for a while anyways.

 

[dpaajones]

I bought CivIII but never enjoyed it. Compared to CivII it was too complicated and, well, just not as fun. So I've carried on playing CivII instead of CivIII. Hopefully CivIV will be more like CivII (with the obvious enhanced graphics and such like). If it is good, I'm affraid I'll probably move onto that, though of course CivII will always be a great classic and one of the greatest games from the 1990s.

 

[The Person]

The average age of Civ2 players is significantly higher than Civ3 players. Like many other Civ2 players, I am at a stage of life where learning another massive game like Civ4, to the extent that I know Civ2, is too much of a major undertaking.

Well, I'm 18. I guess that the reason I'm still into Civ2 is because I was introduced to it at such a young age (can't have been more than 8; oh, how the last decade has passed). I was more into experimenting with new games when i was 11-14. After that I've mostly held to the "old classics". Civ2 is one of them.

I'm getting Civ4 for sure anyway, just to be sure I don't miss anything. But I have this nagging feeling that it will be a waste of money, like Civ3. But who knows?

 

[#1 Person]

Civ2 is the best computer game ever, no-one and nothing will ever convince me differenty.

It is so simple and yet so complicated. It also has such a strong nestalgic feeling whenever I play it.

Civ 2 will never die, just like other old games will never die (like how Half-life 1 will never die).

As long as I am still able to grasp a mouse I will play it. If heaven exists it will be full of computers with Civ 2 on it.

"but my science project for school involves the use of Civ2, and I'll probably re-trigger my addiction to it then..."
You are SOOO LUCKY!! How can you get a better project?

 

[happy_Alex]

I'll still play civ2, but I dont have to play civ 3 anymore, I can skip it and go straight onto civ4 thank goodness...

 

[gunkulator]

As long as there are decent scenarios out there, I will probably keep playing Civ2. The regular game, otoh, I have long abandoned. It's just too easy. Even with scenarios, though, the game is starting to show its age. There are only just so many ways one can rename a temple to something else. On most scenarios, I hunt through the civilopedia looking for the equivalent of the marketplace, Leo's Shop, monarchy, Mike's Chapel, diplomats, etc. and then I beeline to those things.

When I want a challenge, I play Civ3. If Civ3 had scenario events, I would never load Civ2 again. It's a real shame too. Except for events, Civ3 is far more moddable than Civ2 ever was.

 

[Catfish]

If Civ3 had scenario events, I would never load Civ2 again. It's a real shame too. Except for events, Civ3 is far more moddable than Civ2 ever was.

...Of course, a scenario ain't a scenario without events – which is why I never bothered with the Civ3 game engine in the first place (disregarding the complaints about buggy releases and ordinary gameplay). ToT is the most versatile incarnation of the Civ2 engine; that's what I use.

 

[MikeLynch]

ToT is the most versatile incarnation of the Civ2 engine; that's what I use.

Amen brother.
...... and yet it's just NOT VERSATILE ENOUGH!! Why oh why must Civ4 be so buggy and graphically excessive?!

If Civ3 had scenario events, I would never load Civ2 again.

Well, AND if Civ3's multiplayer was at all stable.

 

[The Person]

Well, AND if Civ3's multiplayer was at all stable.

Amen. I don't know how many times I've beat my father in the space race, but one thing's for sure: We never got disconnected or desynched.

 

[BlackAdder60]

The average age of Civ2 players is significantly higher than Civ3 players. Like many other Civ2 players, I am at a stage of life where learning another massive game like Civ4, to the extent that I know Civ2, is too much of a major undertaking. I bought Civ3 but never spent enough time on it to really enjoy it. ...

Exactly my feelings to.

... I doubt I will even bother buying Civ4. Not for a while anyways.

Me too.

 

[Sharkbait]

Any Civ2 stalwarts tried Civ4 yet? What do you think?

 

[Valka D'Ur]

I haven't tried it and can't even consider doing so with my present computer. It just doesn't have even close to minimum requirements.

Good thing I love ToT.

 

[MikeLynch]

Any Civ2 stalwarts tried Civ4 yet?

Yes.

What do you think?

As implied by the above emoticon, I am not wowed. It's too soon to say whether I'd recommend it generally. It's got a lot of good ideas, and a few lame ones. It's hard, too, to know which of the lame ideas were intended and which can/will be fixed in expansions. This much is certain: it IS somewhat buggy and the Civilopedia needs LOOOTS of work.

If you are CERTAIN your machine can run it smoothly, and if dropping $50 is not much of a hardship for you, it's worth picking up.

But otherwise, I'd at least wait until there are enough patches and expansions to make it better. (And more moddable, as they insist it will be -- surpassing Civ3 in that respect at the very least. I hope.)

And BTW, all that talk from Sid about how graphics aren't the most important thing for a game like this? Yeah, that was all a lot of B.S. -- Civ4 is graphically excessive. The 3D looks nice but really is not necessary.

I may have more to say about Civ4 later, after I've given myself some more time to ruminate. But that assumes I'll be willing to put up with its slowness and its other, more intrinsic problems.

In fact, just last night I started a new Civ2 game and found myself marveling at its simplicity, its elegance. How many games can you marvel at all over again once every five years or so?

 

[The Person]

I bring my laptop to school and play Civ2 during breaks. This has actually gotten one of my classmates back to Civ2.

 

[wilebill]

Just installing it now.

 

[RoboPig]

death to the infidel civ4! it makes my computer all slow. unlike the two games closest to my heart, civ 2 + 3

 

[Gelion]

I only play scenarios and play most original ones like Red Front or Hellas. I have Civ2Gold...

 

[gunkulator]

The average age of Civ2 players is significantly higher than Civ3 players. Like many other Civ2 players, I am at a stage of life where learning another massive game like Civ4, to the extent that I know Civ2, is too much of a major undertaking.

For me, one of the things that made Civ2 attractive in the first place was its depth. I mean if you want pure strategy, there are far simpler games like Go or Chess.

I bought Civ3 but never spent enough time on it to really enjoy it. I doubt I will even bother buying Civ4. Not for a while anyways.

I'm still in wait-and-see mode for Civ4. Preliminary reports look good however I'm patient enough to let others get the ugly kinks out.

 

[Catfish]

...... and yet it's just NOT VERSATILE ENOUGH!!

Ditto.

Any Civ2 stalwarts tried Civ4 yet? What do you think?

Nope. Don't meet the minimum specs. For some reason I'm not all that enthusiastic about it, either. I may give it a shot eventually – when the game and required hardware components are cheaper. I've also got a Civ2-ToT scenario to finish.

I'd at least wait until there are enough patches and expansions to make it better.

And that, too.