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A swedish documentary just started on TV here about disabled people and the fact that they too get horny.

And then the question is should society help disabled people to get their sexual desires, and if so, how far should society go?

The journalists went to Denmark, where it seemes to be relatively common for social services (the people helping disabled people in this instance) to, if the client asks for it, get them a prostitute. A male nurse (correct word?) said he would assist in masturbation, massage, etc.

A sexolog, which I understood was working in the social service, said that they had the duty to help disabled people to live fullworthy lives. And that such lives also include sexual desires for a lot of people. That means they would try and help the client fullfilling his or her sexual fantasies, as long as it didn't go outside the law (phedophilia, etc). Though it was accepted with sexual desires involving excrements.

They also interviewed a disabled person who used prostitutes, and he thought it was a good thing, and as long as the women were willing he saw no problem with it either.

Back in Sweden, the program showed another service for seeing-disabled people, a movie-showing of porn-movies with a guy who tells everyone what the movie shows.

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You can most likely change the sex of the persons in question in any of the examples, just so you know.

Now, I was quite fascinated by this question, because I think everyone should have a good life, but I know that I myself would have great problems trying to do the job of the nurse who was interviewed. So should people who choose to work with disabled people have to assist them to fullfill their sexual desires? And what about when the desires goes outside what a lot of people would consider normal?
 
Somehow I have the slight idea this thread may not live eternally :D
 
I know this is a very controvercial topic, but I thought the problem was extremely interesting as it contains a lot of moral problems inside it.

The program was very seriously, and I tried to write the OP so that it would be in line with forum rules.

I hope this doesn't get closed without a real debate.
 
It is... extremely interesting.

And related to the book I am currently reading, about a seribal palsied girl and others at a spastics centre.

I think that if the peopple involved have no problems and are willing then it's ok.

If not and they don't want to they shouldn't be forced to- as that would reduce te "fullness" of thier lives.
 
Padma said:

Ths is also good for the disabled people (the workers not having to do it) as it may put many people off of the job.
 
So should people who choose to work with disabled people have to assist them to fullfill their sexual desires?
No.

There's no right to sexual gratification.

Tough news to the denizens of this board as that might be. :p ;)
 
The Last Conformist said:
Padma said:
I would appreciate a more lengthy answer if possible, and please don't get caught up in that particular question. :)
The Last Conformist said:
There's no right to sexual gratification.

Tough news to the denizens of this board as that might be. :p ;)
That is acctually a point, regular people don't necessary get sex.

Though remember this was just from Denmark (though I doubt they have any special regulations for regular people there either).

On the other hand, this is to offer the disabled people a possibility to get sexual gratification, which else would be quite impossible, depending on condition.
 
How bout for the mentally ill?

I'm certified mentally ill (bipolar), can I get government subsidies to go to massage parlors?

On topic, I don't think anyone should "have to" do sexual favors for the disabled.

Slightly off topic again, I once told me girlfriend if I ever fell into a coma to try to revive me with sex and I promised her I'd do the same for her. :D
 
What do you expect when you shun the disabled? They become hyper horny because they have never had any contact with the other sex. They are oftenly shunned or discriminated against the opposet sex because of their disability
 
No, we have better things to waste money on, like hiring poet laureates and Congressional pay raises.
 
No...

If a disabled person wants to have some sex...he or she can find their own ways of doing so (buy a prostitute their selves) it is not the governments job, nor anyone else's for that matter, to assist the disabled in fufilling their sexual desires.

I find it rather disgusting and replusing actually...and almost a insult to those of us who are disabled.
 
Narz said:
Not enough in the good way though
I'm sorry but Uncle Sam doesn't appeal to me that way. I love him, but I am not in love with him.
 
Cheetah said:
So should people who choose to work with disabled people have to assist them to fullfill their sexual desires?
Yes.

But not in the first way that comes to mind; actively performing sexual activities with them.
In the way of: calling a prostitute to come over for the disabled person, assisting the disabled person in buying condoms, dildo's, arousing clothes etc. it is a definate "Yes" from me.
 
Cheetah said:
A male nurse (correct word?) said he would assist in masturbation, massage, etc.

Though it was accepted with sexual desires involving excrements.
Im most disturbed by these 2 comments, that is just weird!
I think that social services should have no responsibilities to get jiggy with disabled patients, or help them in any way, but at the same time, if the nurses want to get involved, it should be ok (as in not risking losing job) for them to help.
 
Rik Meleet said:
But not in the first way that comes to mind; actively performing sexual activities with them.
In the way of: calling a prostitute to come over for the disabled person, assisting the disabled person in buying condoms, dildo's, arousing clothes etc. it is a definate "Yes" from me.

Yes to all those. Sexual aspect of people's lives is just as important as other parts, if they need assistance to organise that aspect as well, no reason not to help them.

It's not clear from the original post, if getting a prostitute involves the social worker helping order one, same way they'd help with ordering food for the week, or if it's social services actually paying for one. If thats the case, then no, I don't agree with it.

Agree with what Narz said, I'm also bipolar, get benefits for being a nutter, have a case worker, etc. Can't see me getting paid extra benefits to go to a brothel.
 
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