How Often Do You Restart Your Game Because of Starting Position?

[dcbandicoot]

I personally just play it. It's more amusing when I get screwed over in a starting position. If it goes bad I'll find some risky manuever and try it. It usually either gets me killed or gets me somewhere. More likely the former.

On a side note, there is a situation where I can see doing it (though its never happened to me).. one of the civs was on a peninsula blocked in by a mountain... so the AI had a truly abominable start. Literally, four squares to move, so it didn't have many hammers and once city only.. it had an amazing amount of (Orc Spearman) units on each square though . I ransacked all of their gold (OK, traded it for a tech that was extremely basic to me at the time) and then sent a ship with much stronger units over..

 

[brainpan]

Until I have two gold in my starting location in multiplayer.

Same here. And if they don't let me restart, I . .. .. .. .. . up a storm and quit within 10 to 20 turns.

 

[[NWO]_Valis]

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Originally Posted by much2much View Post
Until I have two gold in my starting location in multiplayer.
Same here. And if they don't let me restart, I . .. .. .. .. . up a storm and quit within 10 to 20 turns.

Personal note: Never play with him.

 

[Jean Elcard]

Starting locations in the middle of the ice are usually very good. In most cases overflowing with ressources. The only problem is the surrounding area.

But if you really don't like locations like this, there is an option for switching off ice in some mapscripts. For the Tectonics mapscript I know it for certain.

There is another option too. Starting Settlers are able to move 4 tiles and are quite some good scouts with their sentry promotion. I don't think ist's much of a problem if you lose one ot two turns by moving your settler.

 

[Love]

But you can try to get vitalize as fast as possible by druids or nature manas...

 

[Sarisin]

There.

1-25% now an option.

Thanks, woodelf. You gotta tell me how you did for when I screw up the next time.

 

[Grey Fox]

I'd rather move my settler than restart. But if I feel like this game is gonna get boring cause of the start I'll restart.

Usually I just bang my head and tell me it's multiplayer.

Thanks, woodelf. You gotta tell me how you did for when I screw up the next time.

He's a moderator.

 

[felwar]

I have to ask the people who voted 100%... if you are restarting the game every single time, when are you able to play?

 

[Grey Fox]

I have to ask the people who voted 100%... if you are restarting the game every single time, when are you able to play?

Maybe they just never finish a game.

 

[vorshlumpf]

Even if I cared that much about my starting location, it takes me so long to set up a game (16+ civs) that I'd be too lazy to bother. If regenerate map worked, I might consider that. Anyway, I voted 'never'.

 

[Thonnas]

Obviously the question is not well worded for a proper survey as it can be taken a number of ways.

I took it as: When you restart a game, how often is it due to your starting position?

It seems others interpret it as: Due to your starting position, how often do you restart a game?

There's probably another way (or two) to interpret it that I'm missing, too.

As to the question, or rather my answer to it, starting possition is only ever a major impact on my decision to restart a game if I am praying around with a certain mapscript and/or settings. Actually, considering that the question is about restarting, I should probably change my vote to never. If anything, I abandon a game and start a new one (or regenerate the map).

 

[Grey Fox]

If anything, I abandon a game and start a new one (or regenerate the map).

That's what I call restarting.

 

[Sarisin]

Even if I cared that much about my starting location, it takes me so long to set up a game (16+ civs) that I'd be too lazy to bother. If regenerate map worked, I might consider that. Anyway, I voted 'never'.

Interesting, V. I take it you select the 16 ai civs then.

I will sometimes choose the civ I play, but I always let the computer randomly choose my opponents. But, I play on Epic and there are only a total of 10 civs.

I find that with many civs the map fills up quickly and my computer really bogs down between turns.

 

[White Elk]

I really really want to select the Huge Map and then reduce two of the civs in a map like Highlands or Oasis, But I am certain that the endgame will result in turn lags that result in me abandoning the game regardless of interest.

 

[xanaqui42]

Starting locations in the middle of the ice are usually very good. In most cases overflowing with ressources. The only problem is the surrounding area.

But if you really don't like locations like this, there is an option for switching off ice in some mapscripts. For the Tectonics mapscript I know it for certain.

There is another option too. Starting Settlers are able to move 4 tiles and are quite some good scouts with their sentry promotion. I don't think ist's much of a problem if you lose one ot two turns by moving your settler.

There's a whole set of functions in the code purely to set up starting locations to be somewhat equative (and better than average). So it you start in the middle of a desert (without the typical river) or tundra, you'll be overflowing with resources (out to a distance of 3, due to a possible defect in the sprawling code that treats all civilizations as sprawling for this purpose).

Frankly, If I have a really bad start (typically an Isthmus, since the code seems to overvalue water for non-Lanun civilizations), I usually move my settler until I'm out of that situation. A few turns delay is nothing compared to a really bad location (as I've discovered the hard way). Otherwise, I typically move my settler at most 1-2 tiles (depending on where the visible resources are).

 

[Grey Fox]

Yeah moving the settler is always good, since he is a good scout as well. EVEN if you end up settling on the original location, 1 move can be spared before you do so.

 

[vorshlumpf]

Interesting, V. I take it you select the 16 ai civs then.

I will sometimes choose the civ I play, but I always let the computer randomly choose my opponents. But, I play on Epic and there are only a total of 10 civs.

I find that with many civs the map fills up quickly and my computer really bogs down between turns.

No, I go all random. That's the enormity of my laziness - selecting 6 (7?) more AI spots is annoying to me

I hope with BtS we can surpass the 18-civ limit, so that I can go back to opening all 18 spots and still have the opportunity to see Hyborem and Basium

 

[Grey Fox]

I hope with BtS we can surpass the 18-civ limit, so that I can go back to opening all 18 spots and still have the opportunity to see Hyborem and Basium

With warlords, the hardcoded limit became changeable in the SDK, so it should remain changeable in BtS as well. Kael should probably change it to 21.

 

[MagisterCultuum]

They said in the chat that there is only a minor change in the .dll file needed to raise the limit, but that the limit for the epic game is till 18.

 

[ChaoticWanderer]

since i usually play on a random map generater i dont rarely choose to restart even if im in hell. i try and make do but their have been a few times like on a small island with only one spot for a good city the rest desert. heck i even was gonna try that one until i found a roaving hill giant on it with me then said restart LOL