How would satanists celebrate xmas

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They would go to parties. Then they would enjoy themselves by spending lot of money, buying lot of stuff, eat lot of food, drink a lot.
 
Well the Xmas holiday doesn't really have much to do with Christianity anyway. The Christians just adopted the Pagan winter solistice celebration IIRC.

Of course it seems that Satanism is not really the issue here and that Comraddict is simply making a not so subtle point about what Christmas has come to mean in our consumer culture.
 
Comraddict said:
They would go to parties. Then they would enjoy themselves by spending lot of money, buying lot of stuff, eat lot of food, drink a lot.

I'm a not a satanist but that is how I celebrate Christmas. Bring on the vino, steaks and gifts!
 
To ramble on about what Narz said, the Catholics did incorporate many pagan symbols yes. They took the tree, mistletoe, the date, etc. A lot of Germanic and Nordic pagans dedicated December 25th to the sun, and unlike all the other incorporations of pagan traditions (which were with the intent of luring converts), putting Christmas on the 25th was done with no ill intent. A few Catholics thought the sun was a good symbol for Jesus, being the source of all light and life and all (and I agree), so they thought what better day for the sun in our lives than the day of the sun.

Also, Christmas has gotten too secular IMHO. I was talking to somebody a few days ago about how Hannukah symbols (Hannukah is one of the least important and religious holidays in Judaism), Ramadan symbols (taking place most of the time in October), and Kwanzaa symbols (a holiday made up by a criminal that has no reason to exist, race is supposed to be superficial, so holidays should be about your religion, NOT your race) next to Christian symbols. I said there is some amount of recognition of those three holidays during their time (even though Hannukah and Kwanzaa do occur around the same time, but on the specific days thereof they seem to get a fair amount of attention and respect) but when something has to do only with Christmas there has to be all this recognition of other holidays. He said he saw some symbols of the other holidays somewhere (he didn't say exactly where, he was a little vague) but also Santa Claus, and "so that represents Christianity." :eek: Christmas is supposed to be about Christ, not about Santa.

Don't get we wrong, I put up a tree, decorate it with lights, all the old pagan traditions. But I don't consider it part of some Christian holiday, I consider the wreath, the nativity scene, etc. about actual Christmas. Furthermore, Jesus was probably born in April and maybe 7, 6, or 4 BC.
 
How would Christians celebrate Visakah Puja?
 
There are two types of Satanists, really. The Followers of Set worship what Christians would call "Satan", and those concepts. The Church of Satan disavows the existence of God, and proves it by calling themselves Satanists.

Though, spending effort being repulsive in order to disavow an entity that you don't believe in seems to be a waste of time.
 
I am guessing most celebrate it sheepishly, hanging out with their fundamentalist Christian or hardcore Catholic families saying little and collecting lots of gifts or have a ranting and miserable weekend of alienation. I have met few "satanists" over the age of 20, most are rebelling against their religiously conservative families and outgrow it in time. Generally Satanism is stupid in my mind, most "Satanists" come from religous families and accept it's mythology but are so driven by rebellion that they pick the losing side. I am an agnostic with Zen Buhddist tendencies, there are many Christians I admire but I have yet to meet a
Satanist I can say the same thing about. If you are going to believe in a visionary religion that relies on faith you should at least pick one that has a long history of "good works" IMHO; they can be found in all the major traditions. I would sooner endorse Quakers, Sufis, humble Lutherans, etc..
 
Zany said:
A few Catholics thought the sun was a good symbol for Jesus, being the source of all light and life and all (and I agree), so they thought what better day for the sun in our lives than the day of the sun.

That the sun was a symbol for the Messiah, was already established by the Old Testament.

Psalm 19:4-5

Their voice goes out into all the earth,
their words to the ends of the world.
In the heavens he has pitched a tent for the sun,
which is like a bridegroom coming forth from his pavilion,
like a champion rejoicing to run his course.

Of course, the New Testament identifies Jesus as the "bridegroom". Then, Malachi adds another Messianic term:

Malachi 4:2
But for you who revere my name, the sun of righteousness will rise with healing in its wings. And you will go out and leap like calves released from the stall.

Jesus is the Sun of Righteousness! :cool:

Zany said:
Furthermore, Jesus was probably born in April and maybe 7, 6, or 4 BC.
More likely September, 4 BC, based on astronomical data.

Narz said:
Makes sense. He seems like an Aries.
Yes, Jesus is the Aries. He is also the Sagittarius, Capricorn, Aquarius, Taurus, Gemini, and Leo. He isn't the Virgo, but He is Virgo's child. He isn't the Libra, but He is the One who holds the scales of justice in His hands. He isn't the Scorpio, but He is the One who will slay the scorpion. He isn't the Pisces, but He is the One who pours the water out onto the fish. He isn't the Cancer, but He is the One who gives new birth to creatures, who then shed their old shells. :jesus:
 
God, I hate Satanists. The whole thing must have been invented by a 13-year-old System of a Down fan.

"Yeah, let's turn the cross upside down! That'll show God!"
 
The only use of satanism is that it annoys and scares the christians.
Christians should not moan about satanism, as they invented the devil myth.

In my view, swapping one mythical character for another is no way forward.

The thread poses a question similar to asking Jews if they would celebrate Hitler's birthday.

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cgannon64 said:
To avoid death, yes.

Hmmm...I don't see many centuries-old christians hobbling around.

I get the impression that death is still a factor for you guys.

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