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Humankind Game by Amplitude

Discussion in 'Humankind by Amplitude' started by AtlantisAuthor, Aug 19, 2019.

  1. Elhoim

    Elhoim Iron Tower Studio Dev

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    There's also a poll for a dev made mod example that will be released alongside the game:

    https://www.games2gether.com/amplit...tes/230-day-1-mod-theme?page=0#post-undefined

    Out of the 3, I voted sci-fi. I guess all the fantasy modes on Civ VI made me averse to it jajajaja
     
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  2. TreVor_ish

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    Same here....still can't get over Hercules building a Space Port. I know it's optional and moddable to the extend so in a way You can make it something else but still. And yeah also voted for sci-fi.
    Nice from them being so open about modability and being genuinely aware of people wanting to change a lot of things. Also dll for AI at start is quite nice. Not having a possibility to add new 3d art at release but wanting to add it later is ok with me. Wonder how their version of Unity will look like. Overall positive (waiting for Industrial Era info :p).
     
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  3. Atlas627

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    Voted for Alt History because I'm sure many people will make Fantasy and Sci-Fi mods that are way more robust than the example, but I think it'd be nice to have an alt history mod somewhere, and I don't think modders will provide that anytime soon.
     
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  4. Zaarin

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    It wasn't clear to me what "Alt History" even means in this context. Isn't the game already Alt History? They should have offered a short pitch for what they had in mind for each mod. I voted for Fantasy just because I wanted to see what they'd do with it, but I'm not surprised that Sci-Fi is winning by a good measure. Amplitude has built their company on the Endless franchise after all.
     
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  5. Gwydden

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    I voted for fantasy because, despite loving history and historical fiction, I'm not particularly interested in alternate history and only like sci fi insofar as it is fantasy-adjacent. Never been able to get into Endless Space but I had a blast with Endless Legend.
     
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  6. Gedemon

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    Well, I voted "Alt History" to have a chance of knowing what it means in that context, yes :D

    I suppose it could mean "what if" closer to real history, by limiting the next culture choices for example (or changing them)

    I don't think it means a Rhye's & Fall mod, because that would require new mechanisms and they said we couldn't code those in mods (and also said it would not have the scope of an expansion while Rhye's mod has that scope), even if I'd love to see it.
     
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  7. Gwydden

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    Personally, I interpret it as something like the "Empires of the Smokey Skies" scenario for CIV6.
     
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  8. Zaarin

    Zaarin Chief Medical Officer, DS9

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    Fair. I considered doing the same.
     
  9. conorbebe

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    Just wanted to say I'm really quite impressed by the sheer amount of avatar customisation options! I was expecting it to be pretty limited, forcing you to choose between a few preset heads for example, so it's nice to see that Amplitude are really giving players the tools to recreate themselves and historical figures with reasonable accuracy!
     
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  10. Krajzen

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    Civ1: Roman Empire under Octavian :)
    Civ2: Roman Empire under Traian :)
    Civ3: Roman Empire under Constantine :)
    Civ4: Byzantine Empire under Justinian :)
    Civ5 on release: years 600 - 660 :p
    Civ5 BNW: Byzantine Empire in the year 1000 :)
    Civ6: Byzantine Empire in the year 1070 :mischief:
    Humankind: Alp Arslan leads Seljuk Turks to the battle of Manzikerten

    Sid Meiers Alfa Centauri - Roman conquest of East
    Beyond Earth - Byzantine failed expedition to recover East


    This meme also works because in the ideal world I'd hope Byzantium never fell completely, just reform and exist together with glorious Islamic empires...
     
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  11. mitsho

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    So, wouldn't it be time to start the modern cultures reveals?

    Tap tap tap...
     
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    They said they will be revealing them leading up to the release, so the common estimate would be early next month. I don't expect them to have any culture reveals today, but I do expect them to have some sort of reveal today. Hopefully.
     
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    I don't understand that reasoning. That'd mean that the last reveal is just before the release. I'd want to know the last one a week or two before that though. It isn't like that is likely to be a big mystery... Well...
     
  14. KrikkitTwo

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    The last contemporary could actually be a big mystery.

    revealed
    China
    US

    probably
    Soviet
    India
    Brazil

    ...after that the options get more varied
    something subsaharan africa
    something non china east asia
    something nonsoviet europe

    the last 2 could be any from
    something arab?
    additional africa?
    australia/canada?
    indonesia?
    israel?
    yet more europe?
    more east asia?

    So if they keep the uncertain ones to the end, then its a surprise.
     
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  15. Atlas627

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    PRC - Mercantile
    USA - Expansionist
    USSR - Militarist
    India - Builder
    Brazil - Expansionist
    Modern Japan - Builder
    Israel - Scientist
    Australia - Agrarian
    Ethiopia - Aesthete
    Canada - Mercantile

    is my prediction. Not sure how contemporary vs information era they're trying to go here (Nigeria/Indonesia)? Also just a random guess as to what their affinities would be because we know enough about modern countries that we have evidence to justify every affinity for each one. Definitely think there will only be 1 Scientist or 0 since it is the last era, same with Agrarian. Multiple Expansionist/Militarist/Mercantile seem called for to stimulate conflict/diplomacy, respectively.
     
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    That only works if they abandon their alphabetical order though. Otherwise, the Soviets or the United States or the already kinda confirmed Swedes would be at the end. Vietnam could be a surprise but I'm guessing (South/North) Korea got in before them.

    Each era seems to be themed around one or more conflicts so that the cultures have a connection. As the Industrial era goes right up to the World Wars, the modern era seems to revolve around the Cold War. I hope that they really chose to do it like this as it would leave the door open for a "Information Era" or "Near Future" DLC. And additional Era at the end based on cultures of the year 2021 or later, that could be a good corner stone for an expansion.
     
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    I really hope we don't get Australia and Canada on release. With the USA a given it feels like too many Anglo cultures when theres so many options considering the era spans WW2 to present.
     
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    That was my assumption as well. If it was supposed to be more about present day, then I would have guessed Nigeria and Indonesia.

    I don't see being Anglo/not as being important, but also as Mitsho mentioned I don't think this era spans to present, at least for the cultures. More important is representing cultures that made big moves relative to the others in the same era, that made big moves relative to themselves in other eras, and also to cover different playstyles. Canada would make sense as a diplomatic (mercantile) player and not much else, maybe agrarian? Australia is nice for agrarian, and there aren't many good options for exceptional agrarians during this era...

    So I guess you could say Australia is more likely than Canada, but they both fill niches that are hard and good to fill, they aren't represented in earlier eras, and there are only so many big movers during the Cold War and Globalization, and obviously most of those are going to be remnants of the British Empire from the era before...that's just how history is. I look forward to them coming up with something clever, of course.
     
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    I'd rather get Australia for the base game and Canada for a DLC pack. Geopolitically Australia is a relatively major player in the Asia-Pacific region. Canada is more of a junior partner with the US.

    I believe a reddit post made speculation of the picture of a ranger that popped up and theorized it might be Aussie, but could possibly be American as well.
     
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    I'd hoped the era did not go all the way to the present but I think I do recall a dev mentioning things like Social Media coming up in the tech tree a long time ago so at the moment I'm assuming its going to be one huge era.

    For a diplomatic choice in the Cold War era, a member of the non aligned movement would be better than Canada which was firmly in the NATO camp. With the strong Cold War focus Yugoslavia would be an interesting choice. Their partisan resistance was the most effective in WW2 from what I've seen and is an easy candidate for emblematic unit. Their courting of both sides in the Cold War could be rolled into a interesting diplomatic bonus that encourages keeping everyone at least somewhat friendly.
     
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