Husky-01

[scoutsout]

Wow! You guys really got off to a fast start! I work one honest day, and two turnsets ripped by! Two good turnsets too, from what I gather.

@punkbass: Good discussion of tile sharing. Irrigating that second cow sort of messes up a 4-turn settler pump that runs on auto-pilot... but sharing those cows could be powerful.

For what it's worth... I concur with punkbass and Whomp on a Temple for Wolfs' Port. But don't any of you tell Bede I said that. Capturing those two whales will be nice while you invest worker turn further north. Treat the plains/wines as a roaded BG, and forget about it for now... concentrate on pushing the irrigation northward... come back and irrigate PdL later.

A note on Granaries: I would not bother with them unless it's in a town that you will use to pump a lot of workers. The capitol is the only town that can grow past size 6 without an aqueduct...

If the team would like, I could do a little dotmapping. I think I see an interior site that has real unit factory potential... and ... I think I'd like to see what things look like with one of Whomps dots shifted a tile...

 

[Whomp]

A dotmap would be nice Scout!

The irrigated cow was my fault.
I guess I thought we'd share the bonus food with another city but it will add a little mm'ing.

 

[scoutsout]

Here goes nothing.

I sized this down a bit to make it browser friendly. I hope you can all make it out okay. The pattern is a pretty basic CxxC build. I find it helpful sometimes to outline the 9 tiles that would be claimed by the initial settlement. Some points:

• Don't take this as "gospel". These are just my suggestions.
• There is only one site that is not on the coast. I will come back to that one.
• To the south there are two fishing villages that could share a game tile.
• To the Southwest I moved one of Whomp's dots to a hill. I think the team should consider settling on food-poor tiles, and conserve your grassland.
• To the southeast is a site that appears removed from the fish. A capitol border expansion will eventually claim that fish.
• All of the sites on the northern peninsual are "canal" sites. The northern-most one sacrifices a BG... as well as opportunities to go whaling... but I thought the hilltop defensive bonus might be an advantage.

Back to that interior site: A town on that hill could work 3 Bonus Grassland tiles without robbing any from the Capitol. Add 2 hills to that, and you've got yourself a 5 Pop unit factory. Later in the game you can irrigate and rail those BG tiles and let the city grow... but a pop5 unit factory will be helpful enough in the early game.

 

[Birdjaguar]

I got it and will try to complete the turns tonight.

 

[Admiral Kutzov]

@scout, wouldn't it be better to settle on ragnor's continent before sugar island?

 

[Birdjaguar]

@scout, wouldn't it be better to settle on ragnor's continent before sugar island?

I like that idea.

 

[Birdjaguar]

PB's file downloads as corrupted or invalid. I will pm him to post it again, maybe unzipped this time.

 

[Admiral Kutzov]

move the northern most city one NW to pull the whales and forget about island city. go settle ragnor land

@ CH - that city name was sweet for this game

 

[Whomp]

BirdJ--I was able to load the save. Did you put it in the right folder?

BTW I think English island will be a future conquest as well. This is really panning out like a arch map.

 

[Birdjaguar]

BirdJ--I was able to load the save. Did you put it in the right folder?

I got my corrupted file message when I tried to unzip the download on my desk top. I downloaded it several times. Can you post your version?

 

[Whomp]

How about this one?

The Save

 

[Birdjaguar]

That downloaded as a civ3 save file. Should work. I'll try it shortly.

 

[Birdjaguar]

Do we want to trade warrior code for pottery with Liz? I normally would. She didn't want warrior code and 100 gold for iron working though.

 

[Whomp]

Bede taught me these tenets when making trades and I use it religiously.

The decision making process:
1. Can I afford it?
2. Do I need it?
3. Can it be traded profitably?

If only 1 of these 3 qualifies then it's a bad trade. If it's 2 of 3 it's acceptable and if it's 3 of 3 it's excellent.

I think the trade sounds reasonable but can we trade it around? In fact, what does everyone have right now?

 

[Birdjaguar]

Ottomans have masonry, potterym wheel and mysticism and need nothing of ours
Vikings will give us pottery and 30 gold for CB; I would take that.

 

[Whomp]

I thought PB already traded for Pottery from his turnlog.

Anyhow, on my turns the Vikings offered pottery for CB and 14. That means they are likely researching CB. I would make the trade with the Vikings due to this. I thought in PB's

Once we get writing we should be in good shape.

 

[Birdjaguar]

I took it, writing in one turn; what's next? Philo slingshot?

 

[Admiral Kutzov]

run with the slinger and use MM for the freebie

 

[Birdjaguar]

I lost track of the turns so I stopped at 1750 BC.
Not much going on.
1990: Curraugh and worker finished, I started two temples so we'll ge expansion and add wine and whales. Liz started colossus. I started a road to the north for future settlers to use, feel free to redirect them to a more useful purpose.

I posted about the trade with the vikings and we now have writing and are researching philosophy. Ottomans are leading in tech. I did not attempt to trade writing. I would give ourselves a few turns to maximize the chance of getting to philosophy first before I offer it around.

I adjusted the sliders so Philo wouldn't take 50 turns. It's now 16 turns.

Science is at 70%
Culture at 10 (to keep capital happy)
GPT is at +3

I think we need settlers from our capital next. I would produce a bunch and get our island populated and start on the viking continent. Unless we start suicide runs with the boats, they have pretty much run their course for a while. We now have three.

 

[Mirc]

So I'm next? Got it.