Hypothetical second Korean War...

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What would be the outcome of a possible second Korean War? Before I begin, I'd like to point out that this entire post is hypothesized with North Korea as the agressor. While it's certainly possible that the Americans would try to launch another war against the "Axis of Evil" it's just not likely in the near future. Now, let's examine...

Firstly, I make the assumption that the Democratic People's Republic of Korea (henceforth referred to as the DPRK) is not capable of winning even a brief war on its own because it lacks the necessary resources to do so. There's no question that the economic plight and hardships the DPRK have had to endure over the past 15 years or so have left them incapable of substantial unilateral military action, particularly against anyone backed by the United States of America, despite massive numerical superiority.

Therefore, any DPRK war effort would depend on foreign logistics and supplies to win the day, but luckily such supplies are very likely. The Chinese have been for years looking to establish themselves as a world power, and more particularly as the Asian leader. There are several very high profile American allies near their borders (Japan, Taiwan, Thailand, not to mention the ROK), and a DPRK victory and successful reunification by force would discredit the Americans as a reliable ally in the region, pushing some countries such as Japan into a more neutral stance, while others such as Thailand and Pakistan would be moved further towards the Chinese military and economic sphere of influence. For such reasons, I believe that Chinese support would eventually amount to everything short of outright intervention, but it would start out quiet. It would only become high profile as the Chinese scented real success developing in a DPRK offensive or counteroffensive (depending on who was the agressor). At that point it would comprise of everything we saw from the Soviets in the first Korean War, up to and including sending "volunteers" out to do fighting for the DPRK. This support would have to begin long before any actual offensive action on the part of the communists were to take place, as the DPRK does not have stockpiles of the material needed to launch such a war to begin with.

Russian support would be a lot less likely. Although the Russians are just as eager to reassert the power that the Soviets held over much of the world, they'd stand to gain a lot less than the Chinese would.

In order to win, the DPRK would probably also need to launch a suprise offensive across the DMZ as they'd stand less chance of winning a defensive war. They'd need to maintain the initiative at every turn, because the ROK possesses massive reserve forces (numbering 3.1 million) that dwarf even the DPRK forces. They'd have to not allow any time for the ROK to mobilize these reserves. They'd probably need to attack in the winter, because during a summer offensive they'd be limited to roads and their tanks and other vehicles could not be driven across the soggy rice paddies throughout the western half of the peninsula.

It is only proper to assume that the DPRK could only, at best, contest the American and ROK forces for control of the air and could never achieve outright air superiority, even in only local theatres. The DPRK still uses MiG 21s as frontline fighters, and it's only reasonable to assume that even with generous Chinese support (MiG 29s, as well as homegrown fighters) they'd still rely on it for the bulk of their air capability.

Finally, the DPRK would only likely attack if there were some kind of turmoil in the ROK, possibly unrest, an attempted coup, or an economic depression. It's only logical; it makes much more sense to attack an enemy while they're sick, rather than while they're healthy.

So, given, the current situation, the DPRK could win a war against the ROK and USA, but it would have to be a lightning war over in a month or so, otherwise they'd lose as the USA mobilizes to meet the threat.

Thoughts?
 
If they attacked right now or in the coming months, their air force and ground forces would be plastered since we have three carrier battle groups in the area right now. Also, the North Korean army is a joke compared to US forces. Right now, we only have a small amount of forces but plenty left in the world to moblize, especially Armored Divisions. Most North Korean tanks wouldn't be able to penetrate the armor on our MBT's the Abrams tank. With mass artillery bombardments and mass infantry assualts I could see the North Koreans making head-way in the beginning but in no way would they be able to conquer the south in a month or so. Even if they did, I doubt we would just give up. We have atleast 100,000 men in Japan, Okinawa, etc. (I think) plus at least 70,000 sitting on their asses in Germany, not to count all the Garrison units stationed inside the US. We have sufficient troop strength to regain the initiative if pushed back far enough or off the peninsula altogether. Plus with our obvious technological advantages and no doubt other nations such as France, Great Britain, Australia, possibly Germany, and maybe even the Japanese throwing their forces into the fray, it doesn't paint a pretty picture for the North Koreans.
 
I agree, which is why I noted that the DPRK would have to quietly stockpile Chinese supplies for at least several months before the beginning of a surprise offensive. Any alert given to the ROK/American forces would mean certain defeat. It would have to be a complete and total surprise, with victory coming in a month or less.
 
Pasi Nurminen said:
I agree, which is why I noted that the DPRK would have to quietly stockpile Chinese supplies for at least several months before the beginning of a surprise offensive. Any alert given to the ROK/American forces would mean certain defeat. It would have to be a complete and total surprise, with victory coming in a month or less.

Except that even if they pushed our forces off of the peninsula, we would simply bomb the hell out of them and then return with a much larger force then they could handle.
 
A few things that your theory cant support.

There is no such thing as a "suprise attack" across the DMZ. Outside of the border between Isreal and Palistine, it is one of the most watched pieces of real estate in the world today. Not to mention it is literally filled with land mines.

Also that part of Korea is extremely mountainous and extremely reliant upon just a few MSRs (Major Supply Routes). All the Americans would have to do is blow living hell out of the roads separating North and South and that would bring any such North Korean offensive to a grinding halt.

There is no way in hell the Chinese would ever consider backing such a venture. As they are more and more reliant upon the world economy, it makes less and less sense to wage war vs those buying their products and trading with them. It profits China far more to play nice with the USA than it ever, EVER would partnering up with North Korea.

North Korea wouldnt have a fighter jet intact after the first few days of the war. Nor would they have an airfield left to launch any jets in any event.

The North Korean army is not suited to a fast strike, blitz type of war. They rely heavily on mass firepower of artillery in depth to swing battles in their favor, and are thus far better suited to a defense in depth as opposed to an offense. If their land forces advanced to far ahead of their main artillery support, their capability would take a significant hit.

In my opinion, for North Korea to attack the South, or ever Japan would be a suicide move. 3 million plus RoK soldiers would move northward en masse supported by our vastly superior air and missile forces. My prediction, such a war is unwinnable by the North, and any attack by them would be followed up by their regime change in a matter of a few months.
 
MobBoss said:
A few things that your theory cant support.

There is no such thing as a "suprise attack" across the DMZ. Outside of the border between Isreal and Palistine, it is one of the most watched pieces of real estate in the world today. Not to mention it is literally filled with land mines.

Also that part of Korea is extremely mountainous and extremely reliant upon just a few MSRs (Major Supply Routes). All the Americans would have to do is blow living hell out of the roads separating North and South and that would bring any such North Korean offensive to a grinding halt.

There is no way in hell the Chinese would ever consider backing such a venture. As they are more and more reliant upon the world economy, it makes less and less sense to wage war vs those buying their products and trading with them. It profits China far more to play nice with the USA than it ever, EVER would partnering up with North Korea.

North Korea wouldnt have a fighter jet intact after the first few days of the war. Nor would they have an airfield left to launch any jets in any event.

The North Korean army is not suited to a fast strike, blitz type of war. They rely heavily on mass firepower of artillery in depth to swing battles in their favor, and are thus far better suited to a defense in depth as opposed to an offense. If their land forces advanced to far ahead of their main artillery support, their capability would take a significant hit.

In my opinion, for North Korea to attack the South, or ever Japan would be a suicide move. 3 million plus RoK soldiers would move northward en masse supported by our vastly superior air and missile forces. My prediction, such a war is unwinnable by the North, and any attack by them would be followed up by their regime change in a matter of a few months.

Good post MobBoss :goodjob:

I hadn't even thought about the terrain in Korea working to our advantage. I agree that China wouldn't dare to even try intervening in any kind of future conflict. They have far much more to lose.
 
well, mobboss got some right this time.

I got a similar scenrio.

As Kim sensed the downturn in his country and losing control of the population. he wanted to mount an attack and provoke the Japanese into attacking DPRK. So instead of launching missiles into South Korea, all the missiles will be directed toward Japan. Even with Patriot 3 missile system and some limited Strategic missile defence. Japan still could only stop 50% of the missiles and suffered heavy damages to Tokyo, Sapparo, Osaka, Sentai, Yokohama and some other major cities near DPRK.

The chinese will called from restraint from both side, as with the American. Japan is on the verge of launching an offence into Korea. But was stopped instead.

The reason is simple, Any attack from Japan into the Korea will not get any support from the South korean side. The DPRK knows it, China Knows it and USA too. The alliance will be split. But having not attack DPRK, the alliance will also break down, hence, USA will have to go in alone(for the moment). W

With the USA knowing they get at least some limited support from the South Korean Gov. They plan to attack while the Chinese will be put into a dilemma. If they join the war. then the Japan, South Korea and USA alliance will be fulfilled and reunited. If they dont, DPRK wont last very long also and China might lost its proxy state.

Instead, China does what no other expected. She will attacked DPRK instead. With lightning speed and gorund troop advancement. and having the DPRK not predicting any attack from the North and having no supply. DPRK quickly surrendered, China got KIM imprisoned. and then put another puppet Communist head instead and started the truce again.
 
North Korea could certainly not win but they could cause a hell of a lot of damage and death before falling down like a sack of ****. This is assuming they don't have nuclear weapons

They could kill millions in south Korea and relentlessly bombard Japan before the allies get the upper hand
 
Ramius75 said:
well, mobboss got some right this time.

/bow

Instead, China does what no other expected. She will attacked DPRK instead. With lightning speed and gorund troop advancement. and having the DPRK not predicting any attack from the North and having no supply. DPRK quickly surrendered, China got KIM imprisoned. and then put another puppet Communist head instead and started the truce again.

I congratulate you on this insight. I find it very compelling and in line with the mindset of the Chinese "consolidation" theme. Sort of like what the Russians did in the Baltic States. Good job!
 
Pasi Nurminen said:
What would be the outcome of a possible second Korean War? Before I begin, I'd like to point out that this entire post is hypothesized with North Korea as the agressor. While it's certainly possible that the Americans would try to launch another war against the "Axis of Evil" it's just not likely in the near future. Now, let's examine...

Firstly, I make the assumption that the Democratic People's Republic of Korea (henceforth referred to as the DPRK) is not capable of winning even a brief war on its own because it lacks the necessary resources to do so. There's no question that the economic plight and hardships the DPRK have had to endure over the past 15 years or so have left them incapable of substantial unilateral military action, particularly against anyone backed by the United States of America, despite massive numerical superiority.

Therefore, any DPRK war effort would depend on foreign logistics and supplies to win the day, but luckily such supplies are very likely. The Chinese have been for years looking to establish themselves as a world power, and more particularly as the Asian leader. There are several very high profile American allies near their borders (Japan, Taiwan, Thailand, not to mention the ROK), and a DPRK victory and successful reunification by force would discredit the Americans as a reliable ally in the region, pushing some countries such as Japan into a more neutral stance, while others such as Thailand and Pakistan would be moved further towards the Chinese military and economic sphere of influence. For such reasons, I believe that Chinese support would eventually amount to everything short of outright intervention, but it would start out quiet. It would only become high profile as the Chinese scented real success developing in a DPRK offensive or counteroffensive (depending on who was the agressor). At that point it would comprise of everything we saw from the Soviets in the first Korean War, up to and including sending "volunteers" out to do fighting for the DPRK. This support would have to begin long before any actual offensive action on the part of the communists were to take place, as the DPRK does not have stockpiles of the material needed to launch such a war to begin with.

I don't think this is likely. Chinese are more and more dissatisfied with their North Korean allies, I think that DPRK's regime is more of a nuisance for them. If DPRK attacked the South Korea, they would be very upset, because they would have to suffer consequences (refugees, unrest among the Korean population in Manchuria, strained political and economical relations with the West, who would blame China for not preventing DPRK from attacking).

Chinese would eventually support DPRK, if the Allies made the same mistake they did in 1950, which means if they invaded North Korea in order to destroy it's regime. China wants DPRK as a "buffer state", so they would send enough material to prevent its complete defeat.

Russian support would be a lot less likely. Although the Russians are just as eager to reassert the power that the Soviets held over much of the world, they'd stand to gain a lot less than the Chinese would.

Russians wouldn't do anything, it's not in their interest.

In order to win, the DPRK would probably also need to launch a suprise offensive across the DMZ as they'd stand less chance of winning a defensive war. They'd need to maintain the initiative at every turn, because the ROK possesses massive reserve forces (numbering 3.1 million) that dwarf even the DPRK forces. They'd have to not allow any time for the ROK to mobilize these reserves. They'd probably need to attack in the winter, because during a summer offensive they'd be limited to roads and their tanks and other vehicles could not be driven across the soggy rice paddies throughout the western half of the peninsula.

DPRK can't win. I doubt they are capable of any form of invasion, that would last for more than few days, from these reasons:

1) they don't have enough fuel for either transport vehicles, tanks or airplanes to carry out prolonged offensive operations
2) their largely immobile artillery is digged in along the demilitarized zone, so they would have to stay in its range
3) their armored units are obsolete, their tanks don't stand a chance against the South Korea's modern armors
4) their air force is totally inadequate
5) the supply situation of their troops is bad even now, when they reside inside their own territory.


It is only proper to assume that the DPRK could only, at best, contest the American and ROK forces for control of the air and could never achieve outright air superiority, even in only local theatres. The DPRK still uses MiG 21s as frontline fighters, and it's only reasonable to assume that even with generous Chinese support (MiG 29s, as well as homegrown fighters) they'd still rely on it for the bulk of their air capability.

Finally, the DPRK would only likely attack if there were some kind of turmoil in the ROK, possibly unrest, an attempted coup, or an economic depression. It's only logical; it makes much more sense to attack an enemy while they're sick, rather than while they're healthy.

So, given, the current situation, the DPRK could win a war against the ROK and USA, but it would have to be a lightning war over in a month or so, otherwise they'd lose as the USA mobilizes to meet the threat.

Thoughts?

As I said, I think that any successful invasion of ROK is completely out of question. Even if China decided to give them everything they want, they would get overwhelmed by the US+ROK air superiority and their armored corps would be destroyed in few days, a week at maximum. Then, their only option would be to withdraw to their original border and threaten Allies with nuclear weapons or destruction of Soul with their artillery (assuming it would survive the US airstrikes).

China would have to intervene directly, and this is again out of question. North Korea is a paper tiger, its military is a joke, that's why they need nuclear weapons and missiles. They hope they will give them a detterent, because they know that their conventional army don't stand a chance against the ROK forces or, God forbid, the US armed forces.
 
RoK would take an initial hit, as would Allied forces in the region, but then the modern meatgrinder would kick into gear. SFW, JDAM, SDB, WCMD, USN JSOW, among others, like large amounts of gear and men showing up on an open landscape.
 
MobBoss said:
A few things that your theory cant support.

There is no such thing as a "suprise attack" across the DMZ. Outside of the border between Isreal and Palistine, it is one of the most watched pieces of real estate in the world today. Not to mention it is literally filled with land mines.

There is. But the DPRK already has tunnels dug under the DMZ, and they can still launch a surprise attack. Great, so they'd be seen while launch a surprise attack. It's kind of hard not to notice the armoured columns crossing the border while the artillery shells are wiping out forward outposts.

And the DPRK can sweep for mines just as well as anyone else.

MobBoss said:
Also that part of Korea is extremely mountainous and extremely reliant upon just a few MSRs (Major Supply Routes). All the Americans would have to do is blow living hell out of the roads separating North and South and that would bring any such North Korean offensive to a grinding halt.

:confused: The western half of the Korean peninsula isn't very mountainous. It's the eastern half that is, and DPRK attacks along that part of Korea would just be holding attacks to tie down American and ROK troops.

MobBoss said:
There is no way in hell the Chinese would ever consider backing such a venture. As they are more and more reliant upon the world economy, it makes less and less sense to wage war vs those buying their products and trading with them. It profits China far more to play nice with the USA than it ever, EVER would partnering up with North Korea.

You underestimate the Chinese, or as Bush would say, misunderestimate. The Chinese would not simply curl up in a ball of inaction for fear of Western sanctions against them. They've got too much to gain. I'll repeat my point: a visibly Chinese-backed DPRK victory would portray the Americans as unreliable allies in the East, pushing countries like Japan and Thailand further into neutrality and out of the American sphere of influence. Most countries would be unaffected by such a war and would be uninterested in pursuing economic sanctions against the Chinese, as trade is a two-way street and Chinese goods are just as important to the rest of the world as they are China. Besides, UN sanctions are rarely worth the paper they're printed on.

MobBoss said:
The North Korean army is not suited to a fast strike, blitz type of war. They rely heavily on mass firepower of artillery in depth to swing battles in their favor, and are thus far better suited to a defense in depth as opposed to an offense. If their land forces advanced to far ahead of their main artillery support, their capability would take a significant hit.

Yes, but the DPRK has things called trucks that can be used to tow artillery devices. They've been around for quite some time, not too sure why you haven't heard of trucks.

MobBoss said:
In my opinion, for North Korea to attack the South, or ever Japan would be a suicide move. 3 million plus RoK soldiers would move northward en masse supported by our vastly superior air and missile forces. My prediction, such a war is unwinnable by the North, and any attack by them would be followed up by their regime change in a matter of a few months.

For one thing, I never said the DPRK would attack Japan. Where did you get that from? I simply stated that a DPRK victory backed by the Chinese would push such staunch American allies as Japan into a much more neutral stance.

Secondly, the DPRK has reserve forces totalling 3.1 million, but these are reservists. In the event of a lighting attack across the DMZ, the only real scenario in which the DPRK would lauch a liberation, you can't just have the Military Fairy wave her magic wand and *poof* all those reservists are battle ready. The DPRK vastly outnumbers the ROK in regular forces (1.17 million to .69 million respectively), and in reservists still has about 7.7 million to call up. We even now have information that, according to the Korean Herald (I linked to a blog because the Herald article requires registration) that the ROK reserves are not battle ready in the least.

Again, in the chaos caused by a surprise DPRK attack, it would take a considerable amount of time to call up all those reserves.

On top of all that, the Americans already have a huge number of troops bogged down in Iraq. Let's say that they just pulled all of them out to ship them off to Korea, an unlikely scenario but let's hypothesize here. It would take months, probably even upwards of a year to pull them all out, with all of their equipment and vehicles, during which time the Americans would have a lesser ability to respond to the Korean crisis, let alone others around the world. The Americans are powerful, but they do not have the ability to be everywhere at once.

In the much more likely scenario of having to keep the forces in Iraq supplied and ship troops out to Korea with all their equipment and vehicles would take a huge amount of time. You can't just snap your fingers, even as an American, and have all the troops in place with their guns pointed north.

And no, no nation would volunteer to take over in Iraq while you did your thing in Korea.

One more thing...this isn't a "theory," it's speculating what a war would be like.
 
I'm actually hoping for another war to start soon. It's been a long time since news showed videos of stuff blowing up. I enjoy watching bombardment. Plus I would love to see if the USA would showcase some new tech.
 
Cleric said:
I'm actually hoping for another war to start soon. It's been a long time since news showed videos of stuff blowing up. I enjoy watching bombardment. Plus I would love to see if the USA would showcase some new tech.

Trick them to bomb Serbia again, I am sure you'll be happy.
 
Pasi Nurminen said:
There is. But the DPRK already has tunnels dug under the DMZ, and they can still launch a surprise attack. Great, so they'd be seen while launch a surprise attack. It's kind of hard not to notice the armoured columns crossing the border while the artillery shells are wiping out forward outposts.

I think you're underestimating the power of Satellites. We would know well enough in advance that the North is moving when Satellite photos start to show major troop movements or even suspicious troop movoments.

And the DPRK can sweep for mines just as well as anyone else.

The fact that it would slow them down long enough for American Air power in the region to pick apart their armor columns is a big enough disadvantage to the already screwed North Koreans.

:confused: The western half of the Korean peninsula isn't very mountainous. It's the eastern half that is, and DPRK attacks along that part of Korea would just be holding attacks to tie down American and ROK troops.

Again, Satellite photos and UAV's would be able to determine North Korean troop movements so it's not like we would put a significant chunk of our forces holding back these feint attacks while the main North Korean thrust would roll into our rear.

You underestimate the Chinese, or as Bush would say, misunderestimate. The Chinese would not simply curl up in a ball of inaction for fear of Western sanctions against them. They've got too much to gain. I'll repeat my point: a visibly Chinese-backed DPRK victory would portray the Americans as unreliable allies in the East, pushing countries like Japan and Thailand further into neutrality and out of the American sphere of influence. Most countries would be unaffected by such a war and would be uninterested in pursuing economic sanctions against the Chinese, as trade is a two-way street and Chinese goods are just as important to the rest of the world as they are China. Besides, UN sanctions are rarely worth the paper they're printed on.

I might be mistaken but the Americans are a major Chinese trading partner. They have far too much to lose backing an unwinnable war started by the North Koreans.

Yes, but the DPRK has things called trucks that can be used to tow artillery devices. They've been around for quite some time, not too sure why you haven't heard of trucks.

They also lack this thing called gas. Or air superiourity. Trucks blow up reeeaaal easy.

For one thing, I never said the DPRK would attack Japan. Where did you get that from? I simply stated that a DPRK victory backed by the Chinese would push such staunch American allies as Japan into a much more neutral stance.

There is no doubt in my mind that if there was a Second Korean War that Japan would side with the RoK and the US, along with probable Nato and UN troops and troops from many other nations.

Secondly, the DPRK has reserve forces totalling 3.1 million, but these are reservists. In the event of a lighting attack across the DMZ, the only real scenario in which the DPRK would lauch a liberation, you can't just have the Military Fairy wave her magic wand and *poof* all those reservists are battle ready. The DPRK vastly outnumbers the ROK in regular forces (1.17 million to .69 million respectively), and in reservists still has about 7.7 million to call up. We even now have information that, according to the Korean Herald (I linked to a blog because the Herald article requires registration) that the ROK reserves are not battle ready in the least.

I think you're under the impression that the DPRK actually has a viable military. Their military is crap. Like other posters have pointed out they can hardly keep their men supplied as it is in North Korea. Going toe to toe with the RoK, the US, and other global powers would stretch North Korea's logistics thin and their men would be stuck unsupplied however far they've managed to attack south in this "liberation" attempt of theirs.

Again, in the chaos caused by a surprise DPRK attack, it would take a considerable amount of time to call up all those reserves.

It would also be impossible for the North Korean's to mobilize their reserves before we found out.

On top of all that, the Americans already have a huge number of troops bogged down in Iraq. Let's say that they just pulled all of them out to ship them off to Korea, an unlikely scenario but let's hypothesize here. It would take months, probably even upwards of a year to pull them all out, with all of their equipment and vehicles, during which time the Americans would have a lesser ability to respond to the Korean crisis, let alone others around the world. The Americans are powerful, but they do not have the ability to be everywhere at once.

We have about a tenth of our military in the theatre around and in Iraq. We have roughly 127,000 soldiers, sailors, airmen, and marines there. We have just as many, if not more stationed in Japan, Okinawa, and South Korea. Then we have alot of our heavy armor and Mechanized Infantry Divisions stationed in Germany (70,000+) ready to be deployed to any hot spot around the world. Plus, we have Light Infantry Divisions garrisoned inside the US and Marine Expeditionary forces ready to be deployed at moments notice around any hot spot in the world. If needed quickly to stop a North Korean advance, the US military can mobilize pretty quickly and send an overwhelming (even if outnumbered) force to thwart any North Korean offensive.

In the much more likely scenario of having to keep the forces in Iraq supplied and ship troops out to Korea with all their equipment and vehicles would take a huge amount of time. You can't just snap your fingers, even as an American, and have all the troops in place with their guns pointed north.

Like I stated earlier, we already have a large amount of troops in the surrounding areas just for that reason alone. I don't think it would take as long as time as you think for the US to mobilize it's troops.

And no, no nation would volunteer to take over in Iraq while you did your thing in Korea.

We wouldn't need anyone to.
 
Cleric said:
I'm actually hoping for another war to start soon. It's been a long time since news showed videos of stuff blowing up. I enjoy watching bombardment. Plus I would love to see if the USA would showcase some new tech.

The Defense department is currently looking at a new weapons system called Metalstorm. The basic premise is that it uses electrical charges to detonate caseless rounds inside mulitiple barrels for a very high speed rate of fire, then when you want to reload, you just swap out the spent barrel and insert a new pre-loaded barrel. Some versions are able to achieve a million rounds fired per second, though these are the much larger versions with dozens of barrels that are meant to be placed on aircraft or attack helicopters.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metal_Storm
 
Winner said:
Trick them to bomb Serbia again, I am sure you'll be happy.

Nah, they've normaled up since the yanks bombed them back to the stone age. Very little people think like before(ie the great serbia and what-not). For the better part, you can finally have a drink with them without the fear of an armed conflict. :crazyeye:

Maybe the Czech Republic is a better target, they have built up enough. :mischief:
 
@Pasi: How fast can two, three, four carrier battlegroups get to the western Pacific? How fast can squadrons from the USAF deploy to Guam, Okinawa, Kadena, or Osan? The US is capable of having significant airpower off nearly any coastline in a matter of days, and uncontested airpower (barring direct Chinese involvement, DPRK 'contesting' wouldn't last any longer than Iraqi airpower or air defenses did) is better at stopping advances than it is at pounding defenses.
 
Cleric said:
Nah, they've normaled up since the yanks bombed them back to the stone age. Very little people think like before(ie the great serbia and what-not). For the better part, you can finally have a drink with them without the fear of an armed conflict. :crazyeye:

Maybe the Czech Republic is a better target, they have built up enough. :mischief:

We have few nuclear bombs left over from Soviets and the guts to use them! :bump:

Be warned :mischief:
 
Winner said:
We have few nuclear bombs left over from Soviets and the guts to use them! :bump:

Be warned :mischief:

Old Soviet equipment? Probably take more guts than I have to be within a mile of them when hitting the launch button. Might bring a whole new meaning to the term 'friendly fire'.
 
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