I can't stop playing it now. I only wish the wait between turns was shorter I wont say its a perfect game however, because it's definately not. I still dont think it's better than Civ4... yet. But, after playing a few complete games.. and learning the mechanics alittle better.. i can start to understand the reasoning behind some of the changes and its not really all that bad, some of them are even really good. Im quite surprised how much i've grown to like some of them now compared to my initial reaction. That said, the game DOES need some balancing and fleshing out. And the UI needs some serious work as well to make it less combersome and provide some missing info. I wont list any specific greivances here.. because im sure they've been said a thousand times around here. Especially when it comes to the AI. So whats my point with this post? None really. Just saying that while i did gripe around here the first few days.. i HAVE found enjoyment with it. And to anyone else who spends more time in the forums moaning than in the game... just play it. After a few games you might start to appreciate why they did some of the things they did. It took me two complete games to "get it". Hopefully we'll see some expansions in the near future to add in some more gameplay elements.