I.G.Farben as Creator of Modern World

Never heard this one before. What exactly did the Americans copy from the Zero? Certainly, both the Hellcat and Corsair were independently developed before any Zeros were captured, so...
They got their hands on a couple in 1942 and copied its design almost completely. Of course, by this time they already had some better fighters coming off the shelves - based partly on British designs, I believe - so they scrapped the prototype and continued with the Corsair. The British went through a similar process with the Messerschmidt 109.

How the hell any of this is the fault of the Jews is beyond my ability to understand. I'm sure it's just one of our many and varied crimes against the ubermensch.
 
the guy who used to work for Heinkel was a Jew . He finally ended in Australia and offered top build a Zero for Allied service , it would have looked better than the Boomerangs the Australians build in the end .
 
the guy who used to work for Heinkel was a Jew . He finally ended in Australia and offered top build a Zero for Allied service , it would have looked better than the Boomerangs the Australians build in the end .
"The guy" doesn't really narrow it down for me. I do agree the fighters the RAAF had at the time were pretty crappy. Though how an engineer from Heinkel would know about Zeroes is beyond me as well.
 
You could replace IG Farbin in the title with Ford/GM/Toyota or Microsoft etc.
I also have more sympathy to tin things than to chemistry. Yet machines rarely are important. Probably we can say that Ford-T changed the world, Douglas DC-3 did. What else? acht-acht, T-34, BF-109? Very questionable
I don't think that all windowses together changed world significantly.

IG Farben changed the world MANY times.
Haber-Bosch process alone changed world twice - it prolonged world war for 3 years and gave food for third of world population.
Chemical warfare, sulfa drugs, "era of plastics and polymers", converting coal to gasoline, buna (?), magnetic tape(?)

indeed aspirin and heroin were released by Bayer several years before IG Farben was founded.
 
IG Farbin was a late comer to the world stage. The British East INdia Company changed the world to long before IG Farbin while the German states were used as a ping pong ball between France/Austria/Russia.
 
IG Farbin was a late comer to the world stage. The British East INdia Company changed the world to long before IG Farbin while the German states were used as a ping pong ball between France/Austria/Russia.
Yet all pale in comparison to the mighty empire of Caveman Og.
 
american fighter production in WW2 was on tracks , every fighter used in the war was designed or started before the US entered the war and none of them had design inputs from the evaluation of the A6M . Though out of the way sites and far too many books mention the stopgap Hellcat - before 2000hp Wildcat better known as the F8F- was specifically bought in June 1941 as a Zero beater , before the US even discovered the Zero . ( Chennault was better known for his interest in spices than technical acumen . ) The 1942 incident should be the one where a mechanic in the AVG combined 3 wrecks into one flyable example used for test flying . This is not copying , though it made a name for the mechanic ( he ended as a director of GE ) as far as ı understand it . Apart from the Commonwealth Aircraft Corporation discussions to build an American engined version in place of the Boomerang , there has never been any attempt to produce Zeros for " Allies" . Anything beyond these , ı think aviation enthuasists will be seriously interested . ı'll let a couple of them to know even if they don't let me to post anymore . ı just adore when given enough rope to hang myself .

regarding the other way round the experts acknowledge the landing gear of the A6M is based on a Vought build example of a Northrop prototype sold to the Japanese in 1940 , while ı think ı am so far the only person to notice the tail of the Japanese plane looks far too close to the one of the Vought Vindicator . Jiro Horikoshi , though , loses nothing . He had a nervous breakdown once for his work was a death trap as soon as the Yanks got some Corsairs and the like ; nothing he could do change that , not even the J2M . In the 60s when Rene Francillon was writing a book on the Zero variants he asked Horikoshi what the A6M4 was , as there had to be one between the 3 and 5 , the Japanese designer lied he couldn't remember and had to ask collegues . The Japanese Goverment gave no permission for de-classification and so the M4 was either never built as 4 sounds too close to death in Japanese or was a failed attempt of two prototypes to produce a turbosupercharged high altitude variant . So say them all . Everybody knows the M8 though , powered by a 1340 hp engine and armoured heavily , proposed first in 1943 and rejected , ordered 6400 by 1945 , none delivered . Francillion , former Douglas engineer , was probably the first to write it was optimized against the Hellcat . Yeah , ı have no fear of the M4.

or maybe this was an attempt to recount the story of the P-64 , which sorta dallies with the suggestions of the time that said the Japanese were arming North American AT-6 series of trainers and using them as Zeroes . P-64s made to Hawaii , apparently .

let's go on with being unique . The Bf-109 would have been temporary until the Zerstörer concept was fully realised in the Me-210 and C/D variants were sweet handling planes . It was the threat of the Spitfire , reputedly far faster than anything in the Luftwaffe that gave way to the Emil which was to make " mincemeat of the many and varied types of fighter which it was opposed " as noted by Bill Gunston , combining the 1000 hp engines with cannons but had problems in the higher speed range . And the weight increases made the take off / landing periods a serious danger to the Germans themselves . Considering the all conquering German designers started the Me-262 in 1938 and the 210 (running on a similar schedule) caused the Luftwaffe to sack Willy Messerschmitt from the board of his company , a RAF 109 would have been a blessing for the Germans .

let me make a summary of sorts for the guy , but later as ı am very slow typist .
 
taking great advantage of the Secret Projects forum here is a couple on Friederich Wilhelm Dawid taken verbatim from the site :

a German Jew who worked for Heinkel on the He 100 before being forced out by the Nazis. He then worked for Mitsubishi designing aerostructures for the Zero for two years before moving to Australia before finding a new home in Australia with CAC . David and his boss Lawrence Wackett proposed building an improved Australian Zero as early as 1939 -as an "‘Aussie Zero" would be superior to the Reisen because of presumed access to superior materials - but were turned down by the RAAF who believed that only twin engine fighters would be effective in long range Pacific operations and wanted the Bristol Beaufighter. The ‘Aussie Zero’ was to be a new airframe and wing powered by the R-1830 .He was later the Chief Designer on the Boomerang emergency fighter and the CA-15 fighter.

conspiracy aims to gain influence to one end or the other , by taking advantage one way or the other of a target audience . Why there should be a conspiracy is generally simple , the enemy is so powerful that an open clash will not suit the conspirators . Political actions like where the Americans and equally loserish European collegues try to make fools of 3rd rate countries by comedies of democratic process is not of this kind , the enemy can not even be existing . Conspiracies on lower levels tend to be all about financial gain , which this thread might well be inspired by . No attacks of any kind on posters , but let's go on .

let's discuss Germans , just as the suitable example . History shows much about they nearly fought the world to a standstill , twice in the last century . suppose this is discussed a lot over there just like we Turks discuss the Ottomans when we have nothing else to do . There should be a couple of guys who feel happy about the successes and they form the first layer of the target audience . The operator , after a period of learning who is who , now starts the game , with the hint of a secret that might interest people . Though the secret is quite reasonable or seems reasonable without much doubt . There is a secret power that rules the earth . As Jewish people , from the top intellectual down to the lowest loudmouth are so fond of telling the same , our German case study will not be much surprised or impressed by that America , the foremost country , seems to be much influenced by lobbies . And everything bad that happens in the world is a fault of US and those who rule there . Playing on the integrity , manhood of the target audience . Something has to be done .

Moderator Action: Please stop with the your repeated use of "the Jew" or "The Jews". It is inappropriate. I suggest you use the man's name. If you persist, i will just delete all these posts.
Please read the forum rules: http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=422889

it now needs a balance . The enemy is so powerful that there has to be the conspiracy until the day the fight will be fair , by means undisclosed . But too much of this will lead to defeatism . If the Jews rule the world and nothing can be done against , why the majority would convert to Judaism , losing some flesh in the process , or try to be nice friends to whom they come across , intellectual to loudmouth . Allright , time to discredit the enemy . The Jew has to be worthless but his already underlined success has to be explained , so the Jew is a thief , he stole everything he owns from the rightful owners . He might own America , he might own world's leading companies , but he is a thief , he has no potential of his own . Those who have potential , if they play it carefully , can one day corner the Jew ... As the words start to sink in the operator will be looking for signs of who is falling for and who is not . In our present study , that the Allies showed much interest in German technology is a bonus , historical proof . Allies stole technology from its rightful owners . The American Zero is a "bungled" attempt reinforcing this . A6M is a conspiracy dream , it comes out of nowhere and wastes the enemy ; operational over China for a year shooting down 102 aircraft for no losses air to air , Americans don't even know it , and the Japanese swept the floor with the mighty West , at least for a while . What is more it was a Jew that learned the secrets masquerading as a German .

before the internet swamped anything , the target audience still in the crosshairs , not already asleep or not angry enough to leave the room , would be introduced to higher levels in controlled environments , generally to be milked out of his money . As the web reaches everywhere , the game has been modified slightly , the secrets are whispered loudly . To face off the Jew , the case study is now offered something the Jew can not even touch . The Hanebus , the Vrils and the like . Now early in time this was no men touch , it was female crews , to get further into the brain of the audience . Who wouldn't like a saucerful of gals unhappy with a planetfull of choices but would find solace in the arms of the virile earthling ? Do it right , boy , and you will see the stars ! One comes across such failings in narrative even in 2010 , apparently the first saucers were build in 1940 and nobody could ride them , followed by the name of the test pilot who flew them that year in the next sentence . Hmppftt , a certain group of Germans are not that well read nowadays ...

no point in getting impressed by American power , they will be folded in minutes .

now there are aviation forums ı have aired these and the majority overhere of course know better me . They will remind that the current Nazi flying saucer fad was started by a couple of publishers who took on the alien fad to air anti-holocaust propaganda . ı have insisted it was quite before that . Now there is a long standing belief , if one can dare to put it forward , that aliens will teach flying saucer technology only if you are peaceful . In the 60s , when people still remembered the WW2 and inspired by the space race between those two blocs that defeated the Third Reich , it was a ploy by unlovely brand of Germans to talk of two things : the much impressive capability to travel to the stars only the peaceful could achieve and the "fact" that only the Nazis were able to build saucers . What this proved ? Yeah , according to the unlovely German brand , they were falsely accused of misdemenours they never did and even if they did , between them and the audience , the actions were well deserved . They just defended themselves with all means possible .

having already talked of the internet and how it accelerates things , about 5 years ago there were a couple of newprint books that talked of the German successes in occult . It has been taken as highly insulting that Germans who forwarded the books did not bother delete the passage about the spacefleet from Sirius coming to the help of Fuehrer and expected to make landfall in about 1968 . Oh boy , are we that stupid ? We know it from the web that 1945 saucers could make 9 million kilometers per second , who are you kidding ?

though naturally ı didn't make the cut . Given enough rope to hang myself , ı was public enemy number 109872 after somebody , not me , hit the nail and asked about a certain failing of a certain combat aircraft . The forums then were harsh . ı have to keep out and read without logging . Though ı refuse that big names of those forums are not trying to cover up . There is a guy who has done his damnedest to cover the American hypersonic research and the not so brilliant result . Lochmart ı understand ,,,

truth , is out there somewhere . For those who won't bother .

fraben is not accused of any wrongdoing . For all ı know , he / she can be a perfectly honest soul , person of integrity who has heard one too many . It is my personal trait to go off , wildly off but ı believe ı have a point , aimed at others not present .
 
Well, your section on the Heinkel worker who moved to Australia was interesting. Other than that I have no idea what the hell you're talking about, as usual. You seem like an interesting poster, but you really need to work on your posting style to make yourself understandable.
 
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