I guess this exploit no longer works?

[jerVL/kg]

Recently I read about a trick you can do with trading resources. It goes like this:

(1) When you see that an AI has 2+ gpt to trade, gift them +2gpt. Their available gpt should go up by +2.
(2) Keep giving them +2gpt until their available gold stops going up.
(3) Trade their available gpt for a resource.
(4) Wait ten turns...then CANCEL all your gold gifts!

Naturally, this is considered an exploit. So I decided to try it...just to see if it's really as overpowered as they say. Honest.

Well...here's the problem. I traded with Cyrus (his gpt only went up to +7, and the other AI's didn't go up at all when I gifted them money) but when the ten turns expired, I could NOT cancel the gold gifts!! I could renew the resource trade (for the same +7) but that was it. So instead of ripping off the AI, now I'm subsidizing their economy.

(Luckily, a few turns later, Peter demanded that I stop trading with Cyrus, which cancelled all the subsidies...but left the +7/resource trade, since I had just renewed it. )

So I guess this exploit was "fixed"? I'm running vanilla Civ4, 1.52 patch.

 

[DaviddesJ]

Well...here's the problem. I traded with Cyrus (his gpt only went up to +7, and the other AI's didn't go up at all when I gifted them money) but when the ten turns expired, I could NOT cancel the gold gifts!!

You can cancel existing deals in the foreign advisor.

 

[CivDude86]

It doesn't work that well anymore, gift them too much gold and they'll up their slider leaving them with 0 gold to trade again.

 

[Hans Lemurson]

Recently I read about a trick you can do with trading resources. It goes like this:

(1) When you see that an AI has 2+ gpt to trade, gift them +2gpt. Their available gpt should go up by +2.
(2) Keep giving them +2gpt until their available gold stops going up.
(3) Trade their available gpt for a resource.
(4) Wait ten turns...then CANCEL all your gold gifts!

Naturally, this is considered an exploit. So I decided to try it...just to see if it's really as overpowered as they say. Honest.

Well...here's the problem. I traded with Cyrus (his gpt only went up to +7, and the other AI's didn't go up at all when I gifted them money) but when the ten turns expired, I could NOT cancel the gold gifts!! I could renew the resource trade (for the same +7) but that was it. So instead of ripping off the AI, now I'm subsidizing their economy.

(Luckily, a few turns later, Peter demanded that I stop trading with Cyrus, which cancelled all the subsidies...but left the +7/resource trade, since I had just renewed it. )

So I guess this exploit was "fixed"? I'm running vanilla Civ4, 1.52 patch.

I wrote that strategy article based on Vanilla Civ4 1.61, so no, I don't believe 1.52 fixed it.

You can cancel existing deals in the foreign advisor.

Yeah, that's what you have to do. I believe I stated that in the article as well.

It doesn't work that well anymore, gift them too much gold and they'll up their slider leaving them with 0 gold to trade again.

AFAIK, that's a Warlord's feature.