I Hate Warmongers!

[blitzkrieg1980]

True that. I mean you kinda have to turtle up to rebuild your economy (unless playing such a low level that you can continuously build units without worrying about costs)

 

[Skallagrimson]

In peacetime I usually have one unit pump at full time unit builds unless there's a dangerous close AI like Shaka, then I use two.

If nothing else there's usually obsolete units to replace, or additions to make to a future offensive stack, or cav type units to add to a counterattack stack.

My signal that it's time to go to war includes the indicator that 2+ cities have nothing better to do but build units.

 

[Crusher1]

I play Immortal and always build units........normally more than 150 by Liberalism with the number always expanding bigger and bigger - just like my land mass.

 

[UWHabs]

In peacetime I usually have one unit pump at full time unit builds unless there's a dangerous close AI like Shaka, then I use two.

If nothing else there's usually obsolete units to replace, or additions to make to a future offensive stack, or cav type units to add to a counterattack stack.

My signal that it's time to go to war includes the indicator that 2+ cities have nothing better to do but build units.

Or build more siege. Even if you're nearing artillery, coming in with 30 trebuchets will still deal a crapload of damage to whatever they attack.

 

[Skallagrimson]

Or build more siege. Even if you're nearing artillery, coming in with 30 trebuchets will still deal a crapload of damage to whatever they attack.

I definitely used to be in the school of thought of siege uber alles the length of the entire game. But I've been playing more with the 2-move offensive stack in late game warfare with great results. Cavs initially (along coasts bombarded by ships while the 1-move stack fights inland), and when tanks come online they start to play too. And then when you get Flight and Radio, bombers come into the picture, so the 2-move stack can do more of the inland work. Or even before then if you bring spies to incite revolts.

Toward the end of these test games I find myself wanting to just dump the 1-move stack and make more 2-move stacks, which is a good sign as to their effectiveness.

Question is, how to migrate to that from the mid-game war when you've stacked up a lot of trebs and cannons? One way of course is to be more reckless and suicidal with the siege, but ironically that's when they seem to succeed the most, when you "don't care if they die". Deleting them all seems a waste. So what I've been doing lately is just putting a halt to the siege builds at a certain point (when the 2-move stacks are owning on the offensive), and "grandfathering" the 1-move offensive stack without replacements (all infantry build as CGs to occupy the taken cities). Attrition takes care of some of the excess. But I still end up with excess, which may indicate a flaw in my strategy to work on. Or I suppose I can gift them to a vassal or the enemy of an enemy.

 

[UWHabs]

Yeah, the transition can be tough.

Often what I do (may not be optimal) if yes, I leave some behind. Otherwise, I'll take my 1-2 stacks of 1-move units and trudge them to one AI city (usually an inland one). So, ideally, my 2-move units will do a little horse-shoe type of attack on all their coastal cities (bombarded by boats), as my slow stack works its way through to their inland city (cities). So, in a big invasion, my slow stack may only make it to one city, but it's one less my mobile guys need to make it to (or the mobile ones may get there just in time if any of them need a cheap XP to level-up).

 

[Jrrd Tzu]

I think it's cool to win Civ outside of Warmongering. (I warmonger mostly ) It's kinda like the "high road".

But I didn't hear anything about your defenses, which to me seems like a no brainer for a tree hugger. Just because you're not warmongering, doesn't mean the others aren't...

 

[Zack]

nice necro

 

[Jrrd Tzu]

I'm reminded of that old "Deep Thoughts" quote by Jack Handy:

"I can imagine a world with no armies, with no war, no hatred and no violence. And I can imagine attacking that world, because they wouldn't be expecting it at all."

Warmongering AIs looked for me in my peaceful days and taught me an unexpected lesson I didn't forget.

Great quote... that's going on the signature...