I need help with putting toghether a Toltec city list.

[Sword_Of_Geddon]

So far:

Capital: Tollan

 

[RedAlert]

As the Toltecs had kingdoms in central Mexico, and later on the Yucatan peninsula I will list some from both, although there are not many I can find, and they may cross with Aztecs and Mayans.

Capital : Tula

Central Mexico

Tollantzinco
Calixtlahuaca
Malinalco
Xochicalco
Tepozitlan
Tetzmoliuhuacan
Tzintzuntzan
Atlacomulco
Itztepetl
Teul
Quemada

Yucatan

Mayapan
Chichen Itza
Izamal
Motul
Atazta

Others (I'm not sure if they were toltec, but these are cities in the valley of Mexico that were ruled by Toltecs)

Teoloyucan
Chiconautla
Xaloztoc
Texcoco
Chalpultepec
Culhuacan
Chimalpan
Xico

Hope this helps.
btw, what's this for??

 

[Sword_Of_Geddon]

My mod actually....thanks for helping me RedAlert!

 

[Mobilize]

In C3C's Conquest #5 Mesoamerica, the Toltec's city/leader list is:

Cities:
Tula
Teotihuacan
Tonina
Chinkultic
Iximche
Cotzumalguapa

Leader: (High Priest) Ce Acatl Topiltzin

Military Leaders:
Chak-Mool
Atlante
Tlahuizcalpanteuctli

Scientific Leaders:
Cipactli
Oxomoco
Huitzilopochtli

Favored/Shunned Gov't: Monarchy/None
Traits: Militaristic, Religious
Aggression: 4

 

[Rob (R8XFT)]

^The Toltecs ruled much of Maya central Mexico from the tenth to twelfth centuries A.D. The Toltecs were the last dominant Mesoamerican culture before the Aztecs, and inherited much from Maya civilization. The Toltec capital was at Tula, 80 kilometres north of Mexico City. The most impressive Toltec ruins, however, are at Chichen Itza in Yucatan, where a branch of Toltec culture survived beyond the civilization's fall in central Mexico.
^The Toltecs were Nahuatl-speaking people who held sway over what is now central Mexico from the 10th to the 12th century AD. Their name has many meanings: an "urbanite," a "cultured" person, and, literally, the "reed people," derived from their urban centre, Tollan ("Place of the Reeds"), near the modern town of Tula, about 50 miles (80 km) north of Mexico City. About AD 900 they sacked and burned the great city of Teotihuacan under the leadership, according to tradition, of Mixcoatl ("Cloud Serpent").
^Under his son, Ce Acatl Topiltzin Quetzalcoatl, they formed a number of small states of various ethnic origins into an empire later in the 10th century.
^The ruler Topiltzin introduced the cult of Quetzalcóatl, which name he adopted.
^The important gods were Tezcaltlipoca (god of the night and the darkness), Tláloc (god of the rain) and the vegetation Centéotl god of the corn ltzpapáloti or butterfly of obsidian Tonatiuh or solar god.
This cult and others, as well as the Toltec military orders of the Coyote, the Jaguar, and the Eagle, were introduced into important Mayan cities to the south in Yucatan, such as Chichen Itza and Mayapan, indicating the broad influence of the Toltec. The advent of the Toltec also marked the rise of militarism in Mesoamerica. They also were noted as builders and craftsmen and have been credited with the creation of fine metalwork, monumental porticoes, serpent columns, gigantic statues, carved human and animal standard-bearers, and peculiar reclining Chac-Mool figures. Beginning in the 12th century the invasion of the nomadic Chichimec destroyed the Toltec hegemony in central Mexico. Among the invaders were the Aztec, or Mexica, who destroyed Tollan about the mid-12th century.
^Whether it was imposed on them or adopted by choice, the fact that the Maya of Chichen Itza incorporated so much of Toltec culture is significant. Although no absolute connection has been established, the emergence of Kukulcan, the Mayan version of the feathered serpent god Quetzalcoatl, coincided with the height (or possibly the collapse) of the Toltec civilization. The legend of the priest-king Quetzalcoatl of Tula and his self-imposed banishment to the East have been frequently linked to the emergence of the Mayan god Kukulcan and the assimilation of Toltec culture at Chichen Itza. Feathered rattlesnake images are everywhere at Chichen Itza.

 

[QFred]

The Toltecs were the first to adore Quetzalcoátl (supreme god, mix of a serpent, a man and a quetzal bird), but in the Toltec mithology, Quetzalcoátl wasn't an important god. When they were defeated by the Aztecs, the invaders adopted the pantheon of them, but Quetzalcoátl became the supreme in this rising tribe-nation.

Besize the Maya, the Aztecs, the Moche, the Olmecs and the Toltecs; there were many tribes in Meso-America, like: Texcoco, Tlechtula, ...(the capital name was the tribe's name). Most of the smaller tribes were allied to the Spanish, during their conquest of Meso-America.

 

[QFred]

Only one more thing, the Toltecs didn't conquer the Maya, the Olmecs did it.

 

[Gogf]

Yeah, just about everything's been posted now, I guess.

 

[RedAlert]

Only one more thing, the Toltecs didn't conquer the Maya, the Olmecs did it.

The Toltecs, migrating from central Mexico, conquered the northern Maya around 1000 CE. Their capital was at Chichen Itza, and their kingdom lasted for over 200 years.
* Other Toltec groups reached places as far as modern Belize and Honduras.

Although 2000 years before this, there was strong Olmec influence in the western Maya states, I don't know if this was the result of conquest.

Something else to note: The Aztecs, just before the Spanish arrived, had strong influence over the southern Maya states, and had the Aztecs not been conquered, they may have extended rulership over all Maya lands.

 

[RedAlert]

Wait, Sword of Geddon, I forgot a few!

Zacatollan
Cempoala
Quirigua
Teloloapan

The first two were in Mexico, the former on the Pacific coast and the latter on the Gulf of Mexico. Quirigua was in eastern Guatemala. Teloloapan was also in Mexico, between Zacatollan to the east and the valley of Mexico to the north. (Although that probably isn't important)

 

[Sword_Of_Geddon]

The Toltecs are an interesting lot...one sight I went to claims that they existed before the Mayans...another says they came after them..

Thanks everyone! I was thinking that Sween's old Atahuapa leaderhead would do nicely for these guys.

 

[RedAlert]

The Toltecs are an interesting lot...one sight I went to claims that they existed before the Mayans...another says they came after them..

Thanks everyone! I was thinking that Sween's old Atahuapa leaderhead would do nicely for these guys.

The Mayans were definately a civilization thousands of years before the Toltecs were.

As for the Sween's leaderhead - great idea! I was wondering what nation it should be used for, since we have an Inca one now.

 

[Sword_Of_Geddon]

Whats odd about the Azteks was that according to the Aztek mythos, Quetzalcoátl opposed human sacrifice...was Quetzalcoatl the average Aztek peasant's god, and was it the leadership of the Azteks that enforced the sacrificing?

Anyway...I looked at Sween's leaderhead for awile after someone told me and Civarmy on the American Continent Modthread that the leaderhead didn't fit the Maphuche, and Civarmy is going to make a Maphuche leaderhead eventually(knowing him it will be professional quality), I immediately thought...TOLTECS!! After reading about them somewhere.

 

[RedAlert]

I heard that Quetzalcoatl opposing human sacrifice was a myth, made up by the aztecs after the Spanish conquest, so the spanish wouldn't be so hard on Quetzalcoatl worship. Of course, Quetzalcoatl was definately not one of the more bloodthirsty gods.

Hey, is CivArmy going to put the Toltecs in the American Continent Mod?

 

[Ozymandias]

Classical era Toltec city / site names (Spanish names to the best of my ability with Spanish omitted):

1. Several capitals: Tula; Tollantzinco; Chapultepec; Culhuacan

2. Other Classical era sites:

Acatlan
Ameca
Atazta
Etzatlan
Itztepetl
Ixtlahuacan
Ixtlan
Petatlan
Tamuin
Teayo
Xochicalco
Xocotitlan
Zacatollan

3. Sites in the Yucatan:

Balankanche
Izamal
Mayapan
Motul

4. Post-Classical era sites:

Apatzinga
Cacaxtla
Calixtlahuaca
Tzinapecuaro
Xiuhquilpan

-Not quite exhaustive, but my eyes are blurring from the fine print on the map I'm reading from ...

-Oz

 

[Sword_Of_Geddon]

Thanks for putting that list toghether OZ....and sorry for taking to long to respond...I must have missed it...