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jake2007

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i simply cant learn by reading through posted games and playing my games for you. i know there are a lot of experts on here so if one could please teach me and be my mentor so to speak that would be great.

post in this thread or pm me if interested. please dont make fun of me i really want to learn this game.

the way i want to learn is by playing a multiplayer game me and you teamed up against some ai. you tell me what to o with my workers what to build what to reasearch etc.

also if you want my msn pm me.

thanks a lot.
 
I might be helpful. :)


I'm not an expert though. Only average at best. And i'v only won space race victories.
 
Jake I suggest you read through the ALC series and then post a game. play something like 20-30 turns explain why you did things, keep a log of what you do each turn. When you are done post the opening and go through your thought process, post the game at turn 20-30 then ask for a critique. There's really no best way to play the game, you have to play the map you are given.

As far as theory goes, you want to work as many tiles or as many specialists as possible. To do that you need workers and things for the workers to do. If playing a cottage or commerce economy you don't want to be dropping below 40% much. Using a specialist economy you want as much food as possible and you can drop to 0% research if you have enough specialists but you'll probably want to have your culture slider at 20-40% most of the time.

I've browsed a few of your threads and my main suggestion would be to analyze the situation and have a plan. You want an overall strategy on how you want to go about winning the game. Decide what you need to achieve that goal and then make short term plans to achieve those goals. Refocus and iron out your plans every 20 turns or so. Determine if the over all strategy needs to change or if you need to re-prioritize your short term goals.
 
i want someone to watch me play though.

anyway my goal is to win by domination by the renisance age witht the chinese uu cho ko nu. i just love that unit. i am able to kill off 2 opponents with that strategy but the rest always beat me thats why i need someone to watch me play.
 
jake2007 said:
i want someone to watch me play though.

anyway my goal is to win by domination by the renisance age witht the chinese uu cho ko nu. i just love that unit. i am able to kill off 2 opponents with that strategy but the rest always beat me thats why i need someone to watch me play.
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I've read a couple of your posts, and I think you're focusing way too much on the military side of CIV. Your goals shouldn't be "build 16 phalanxes" or "domination by the renaissance". If you really want to learn play the game, be more open-minded to other areas of the game: How does research work? Culture? Different buildings and strategies to make best use of them?

Actually, don't try to win the game at all, try to make new discoveries along the way and pick up useful things to use in your future "domination games".

I'm guessing you don't have a lot of experience playing the Civilization series? Lot of us peeps around have been playing since Civ I, and many of these veterans have had to learn Civ4 step by step, most likely struggling at Noble or lower levels when they started. Civ4 ain't an easy game.

To sum it up, my advice is: try to get yourself familiar with the game and it's concepts first and set yourself goals in later games when you feel you're up for it.


PS. About the mentor part, I've always thought that reading the manual and learning to play a new game all by yourself is very enjoyable! But hey, that's just me :)
 
dominating the game by the renaissance in bts is not a trivial task. Unless you're playing epic or marathon, it's pretty hard to complete a rush in that amount of time on normal speed (assuming you hit the education - renaissance conversion in the 500's or so). That being said, if you really want a domination by that time, I'd go with a better early UU than the Cho-ko-nu. It's a good UU but not great. It requires machinery which I normally don't tech until after CS (I rarely tech archery so x-bows don't interest me unless the enemy has hit maces first). Try dominating with war chariots, immortals, or praets. Then I'd try a non-UU domination run, or a cho-ko-nu domination run.
 
It also sounds like you want to get better without doing any work.

you could load my save from my CivIV101 mansa game and try to play along. I pretty much detailed almost every move I made. If this is to much to ask, then I can't help you. I spent a lot of time putting that thread together to help beginning players. If it takes you too long to read it, that's not my problem.
 
its just hard for me to follow along by reading text ya know? like i wish there was a record button for civ 4 games so i could watch them. ive been playing off and on since civ 2 btw. i got civ 2 when i was 8 or 9. then i got civ 3 when i was 15 or 16. got civ 4 at 17. those are all estimates. so im not a newbie to the civ series. i just suck. i dont have to win by domination. i was just pointing out the the cho ko nu is my favortie uu.
 
I actually agree with Jake. I would love to be able to see people actually playing civ as boring as that may sound lol.
 
It would be a useful feature, a "record game" feature that showed all your moves.

Since it doesn't exist, I'm going to say that I agree, jake, that you are probably not focusing enough on how to run a good economy. One of the things that could solve that for you is dropping to an easier difficulty level (settler is okay) and building/using plenty of cottages. (also make sure your cities and resources are connected by roads)

When I was new to the game, I had a hard time running a good economy after I had built/captured more than 6 cities and I think you are having a similar problem. It will help a bunch if you pick a Financial leader and prioritize civics and technologies that help your economy. I'm a fan of currency, for example.

Mind you, don't get so focused on the economy that you forget to build some mines and make military units.
 
No offence mate, but if You'd invested 20% of energy You've spent on posting You would have passed Prince already.

Honestly, don't get me wrong, I don't want to flame or whatever. Simply play CIV, and in the meantime read ALC. Whenever conversation between rounds is about sth You have no idea about, read related thread - usually ppl are throwin links all over the place. So slavery, economy, initial expansion/early war, war weariness, tech pushing - it's all there, especially that discussions in ALC's quite often are offering "civ-uberness in pill :goodjob: ".

So instead of whining on forum how blablablablah, actuate Your wits and RUSH. Or REX. Whatever :D
 
Cer said:
It would be a useful feature, a "record game" feature that showed all your moves.
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Actually alot of HOF games have logs that show replay info, e.g. what years stuff was founded, when cities were founded, etc. etc. It can be useful to an extent, e.g. seeing when people found stuff, when they found their early cities, what early techs they go for, when they declare war, and so on and so forth.

I believe there is also a utility in the utilities thread that will record a log from your saved files. IIRC the HOF mod does this anyway. (Correct me if I am wrong?)

That's about as close as you'll get to actually "watching" a live civ game I believe.
 
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