ICNES II: A New Order

[Luckymoose]

To: Austria and the Axis
From: Ottoman Empire,

As a founding Member of the Axis the Ottoman Empire wishes for Austria to join the Axis,we hope the other 2 founders support the joinign of Austria into the Axis.

 

[Finmaster]

From Sweden
To Austria and the St. Petersburgh Axis:
We would be willing to welcome Austria into our alliance.

OOC: @ThomAnder, we shall see

 

[Finmaster]

OOC: btw, I don't have time to send orders until tomorrow. If that will be too late, please keep Sweden NPC'd regarding economy spending and I'll join "officially" after the update

 

[Finmaster]

OOC: And I'd appreciate it if you'd ignore the selling of Pomaria even if I fail to send orders, I wouldn't want to give up an eco center for basically free

IC:
From Sweden
To Austria:
We have to cancel our decision to sell Pomaria for three ec points, we hope you understand. Selling the area can be negotiated but we can't give it up for such a cheap price.

 

[Israelite9191]

To Sweden and the Ottoman Empire
Form the Empire of All the Russias

Russia puts forward Japan for membership. Her Imperial Majesty also confirms the membership of Austria.

 

[Finmaster]

To Sweden and the Ottoman Empire
Form the Empire of All the Russias

Russia puts forward Japan for membership. Her Imperial Majesty also confirms the membership of Austria.

Sweden confirms the membership of Japan.

 

[Luckymoose]

Ottomans confirms Japan into the Axis.

 

[ThomAnder]

hmm a globe spanning axis before globalization and industrialization, how... realistic

 

[Finmaster]

If there can be globe spanning empires, why couldn't there be globe spanning alliances?

 

[Luckymoose]

A Message to All Members of the Axis

"From here forth the Empire of All the Russias, the Ottoman Empire, and the Kingdom of Sweden retain veto rights as the founding members of the St. Petersburg Axis"

This includes and is not limited to.

a. New Members requesting or being requested to join the Axis by an astabilished member.

b. All joint Military Operations with said Members.

c. All joint Projects with said Members.

All Veto's are final and cannot be reversed. Only founding members are allowed the power of Veto. Unless ofcourse the power of a Veto Vote is considered and passed by the Founding members. Then and Only then can it be given to another member outside of the Founders.

Signed and Sealed, Her Imperial Majesty Czarina Catherine II the Great of the House of Romanov,
Heiress to Rome, Mother of Her Country, Guardian of the Holy Orthodox Faith, and Empress of All the Russias

Signed and Sealed, His Majesty by the Grace of G-d King Adolf Fredrik of the Svealand House of Holstein-Gottorp,
Standard Bearer of the Protestant Reformation, Duke of Pomerania, and King of the Swedes, Goths, Vends, Lapps, and Finns

Signed and Sealed, His Imperial Majesty Sultan Mustapha III of the Osmanli Turkish House of Osman,
Caliph of Islam, Defender of Holy Mecca and Medina, Bey of the Söğüt Turks, and Sultan of the Ottoman Empire​

 

[Sheep]

To Russia, Ottomans and Sweden
From Austria

We protest this veto change to the treaty to which we have signed and ratified, without consultation of Austria who has become a member before this. We do not feel it is in this alliance's best intrest to gather the veto power in the hands of three nations, especially when the said three nations are not the strongest in the alliance. If this veto goes ahead then we will withdraw our membership from said alliance as a direct threat to Austrian sovereignty, and will treat it as such for all time. All governments involved in this treaty should have equal footing. Treaties one signed and ratified should be upheld unless ALL signatories are in agreeance with the changes. This is the policy of the Holy Roman Empire of the Second Reich and shall continue to be so. We urge you to consider your postion immediatey.

To Sweden
From Austria

You signed and ratified the treaty by neogtiation a year ago. 3 eco is what we will pay, if you do not agree then we cancel all treaties with you, ending Swedish military training in our colleges, favoured trading rights for Swedish iron ore and other products in Austrian markets and all other deals. It is not only 3 ep that you are receiving but a raft of other benfits as well.

Pomerania is a German territory and land and your continued occupation of it is undesirable by the Holy Roman Empire and all other German states and members of the German Congress.

 

[Luckymoose]

To Russia, Ottomans and Sweden
From Austria

We protest this veto, without consultation of Austria who has become a member before this. We do not feel it is in this alliance's best intrest to gather the veto power in the hands of three nations, especially when the said three nations are not the strongest in the alliance. If this veto goes ahead then we will withdraw our membership from said alliance as a direct threat to Austrian sovereignty, and will treat it as such for all time. All governments involved in this treaty should have equal footing.

OOC: Get on AIM.

To Austria
From Ottoman Empire


We always had veto powers against ourselves. When the Axis was created. You and Japan are new members. And thus do not have the Veto power. It in no way threatens your sovernty. Only a possible cancelation of wars, or other things through a veto.You can yourself gain Veto power.

 

[Sheep]

We do not agree to this veto. No where in the treaty we signed does it mention it. If it is enforced we will remove ourselves from this treaty an all others we hold with the nation the weilds this veto. We consider any veto a direct attack on Austrian sovereignty. We remind you that we are the most powerful Empire in this alliance and thus if there is to be a veto we DEMAND that we are given such a power as well. Futhermore we also would like to see the Empire of Japan as the only Asian power, to also hold such a power.

 

[Luckymoose]

The Ottoman Empire wishes for the Swedes to uphold there treaty with Austria. As Austria has offered a nice payment for the lands. And we do not want to trigger any wars.

 

[Sheep]

To Sweden
From the Holy Roman Empire of the Second Reich

We recomend you pay attention to what the Ottoman Empire is saying. You will get no more, and you can get quite less.

 

[Finmaster]

From Sweden
To Austria:
We see no other choice but accept your blackmail.

To Ottomans:
Well you got what you wanted; as we are facing the possibility of war, we have decided to give in to Austria's blackmail.

To Axis:
We cannot accept Austria having a veto right in the alliance. With their recent threats of declarations of war, we can no longer consider our relations with Austria to be good, or even close to it.

 

[Sheep]

To the Axis
From Austria

The only reason why Sweden and Austria's relations have sunk to a low is because of Swedish threats to pull out a treaty that has been signed and ratified. Any government would do the same when a treaty is being broken by another power. Futhermore we stand by our previous statement we dont want veto power. No nation should have a veto power. Its not in the orignal treaty and thus has no place in this alliance. The veto was dictated to us after we signed this treaty, this is not the way a treaty should work and this is not the way any treaty Austria is part of will do so. We will dismiss any use of the veto and we reserve the right to ignore such vetos at our leisure. We also urge all other nations to do the same. Simple majority rules is a much fairer and equal way to go about things.

 

[Icmancin]

silver is going to die. I've started the update, China is really fun to write this turn. silver hasn't sent orders so all you guys that uhhh... did something you guys will have a blast. Unless he can get orders in before I start his part (which is the last part) you will be extremely pleased.

 

[silver 2039]

silver is going to die. I've started the update, China is really fun to write this turn. silver hasn't sent orders so all you guys that uhhh... did something you guys will have a blast. Unless he can get orders in before I start his part (which is the last part) you will be extremely pleased.

My orders will be sent. I've almost finished.

 

[Finmaster]

@icmancin: Not that its any of my business but.. is it really fair to say things like that as a mod? Assuming of course that whoever is attacking him wants it to be a surprise..