I'm afraid!

[gay_Aleks]

On the bright side, at least they came. Wouldn't it be stupid if they did D-Day on London instead of Normandy?

 

[Borachio]

Oh, I'm not saying arriving late for WW1 and WW2 was bad. I don't think people should rush into those sorts of things.

 

[Gori the Grey]

THANKS, OBAMA!

I blame Bush

I wouldn't mind which party was responsible, if the government would actually save the daylight. But you think you can trust big government to do that? I guarantee they'll spend all of this year's so called "savings" by next spring. You mark my words!

 

[gay_Aleks]

Save the Sun! Buy war bonds!

 

[warpus]

Daylight savings time is almost as stupid as Scientology. The sooner we get rid of this idiocy the better.

 

[Farm Boy]

meh, who cares

I care some. It helps society keep structured around being open and functioning such that children tend to be out and about for their commutes in the light. Which is pretty much a win. Any verbalized inconvenience experienced by a B to the SUP! is just female-dogging on the scale of relative concerns. >.> <.< >.>

Love ya B!

 

[bhsup]

Best worded insult in ages!

You actually validate my criticism, though. DST just gives the little bastages one more hour to be on my lawn.

 

[Harv]

So yeah, this is supposed to be our bi-annual "daylight savings and why it is stupid" thread.

I have no idea why they do this anymore. Why don't they just pick either standard time or daylight time and stick with it year round.

They way they have it now, instead of getting used to it being darker earlier, suddenly the clocks change, you leave work one hour later, and it is dark - just in time for deer season!

 

[warpus]

I've had it explained to me before that it's far easier to inconvenience an entire continent than just changing the school times so that kids go to school later, when it's dark, or whatever. This would put too huge of a burden on parents, who for some reason aren't able to negotiate flexible times with their employers and whose lives would collapse under the weight of their kids having to wake up at different times of the year depending on when the sun rises.

So sure, I understand their point of view. It would suck if I had kids and they had 2 wake-up times depending on what time of year it was.. But this as a solution? No way, there's got to be a better way. This is like changing what North-east means for 2 months out of the year, just to keep people from walking in a certain direction.

 

[Farm Boy]

Employers still don't manage to pay women equally and childrearing inconveniences that get in the way of dedication to career are often cited. I have zero faith in the concept that employers wouldn't take a zero sum opportunity to shaft as many people as possible. When the hardship on one side is actual hardship and the hardship on the other is irritation at a one-hour shift twice a year and aggravation over the arbitrariness of it all I just can't ride Bh's complaint with much dedication to it being more than vague selfishness and concern about his lawn. I've tried before.

 

[Borachio]

In 1940, during the Second World War, the clocks in Britain were not put back by an hour at the end of Summer Time. In subsequent years, clocks continued to be advanced by one hour each spring and put back by an hour each autumn until July 1945. During these summers, therefore, Britain was two hours ahead of GMT and operating on British Double Summer Time (BDST). The clocks were brought back in line with GMT at the end of summer in 1945. In 1947, due to severe fuel shortages, clocks were advanced by one hour on two occasions during the spring, and put back by one hour on two occasions during the autumn, meaning that Britain was back on BDST during that summer.[8][not in citation given]

An inquiry during the winter of 1959&#8211;60, in which 180 national organisations were consulted, revealed a slight preference for a change to all-year GMT+1, but the length of summer time was extended as a trial rather than the domestic use of Greenwich Mean Time abolished.[9] A further inquiry during 1966&#8211;67 led the government of Harold Wilson to introduce the British Standard Time experiment, with Britain remaining on GMT+1 throughout the year. This took place between 27 October 1968 and 31 October 1971, when there was a reversion to the previous arrangement.

Analysis of accident data for the first two years of the experiment, published by HMSO in October 1970, indicated that while there had been an increase in casualties in the morning, there had been a substantially greater decrease in casualties in the evening, with a total of around 2,500 fewer people killed and seriously injured during the first two winters of the experiment,[10][11] at a time when about 1,000 people a day were killed or injured on the roads.[12][13] However the period coincided with the introduction of Drink-Driving legislation, and the estimates were later modified downwards in 1989.[11]

The trial was the subject of a House of Commons debate on 2 December 1970[14] when, on a free vote, the House of Commons voted by 366 to 81 votes to end the experiment

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Summer_Time

I remember my parents talking in hushed tones about Double Summer Time.

But it seems like we're stuck with changing the clocks twice a year for ever more, now. I can't say it bothers me. But this old chap with Alzheimer's I know couldn't understand why his dinner hadn't come while his stomach was telling him it was over due.

 

[Loppan Torkel]

Link to video.
Arizona?

 

[Takhisis]

DST just gives the little bastages one more hour to be on my lawn.

I don't understand what is the time restriction on them being on your lawn.

btw are these bastages invaders from Kansas? People coming from Kansas into Missouri is a Very Bad Thing.

I remember my parents talking in hushed tones about Double Summer Time.

Argentina's stuck on Argentine Time +1 and has been for decades. Having noon happen at 1 o'clock is simply counterintuitive.

 

[warpus]

Employers still don't manage to pay women equally and childrearing inconveniences that get in the way of dedication to career are often cited. I have zero faith in the concept that employers wouldn't take a zero sum opportunity to shaft as many people as possible.

That's why it's important to support worker rights, unions, and so on.

And I mean, having to change my clock twice a year isn't super annoying, but it's pretty stupid. Plus it always throws me off for a couple days or even weeks, so I'm just generally against it. I get no benefit out of these time changes whatsoever.

 

[Harv]

Just wait until the election in the USA on Tuesday. Then we will find out if we have to turn our calendars back 50 years.

 

[Farm Boy]

It's a balance, isn't it? Between things that are relatively important to a portion of society and a vague inconvenience to others. Like peanut allergies. It's a balancing act between caring both about the significantly impacted, the mildly irritated, and when does a minority become small enough that society will not arrange itself for their betterment over the mild itch it causes the majority. Keeping traffic patterns in the light as best we can seems relatively sensible, though, if we can swing it and it at least has some evidence it works.