Industrial and later Building/Unit Costs

1. Oh those look much nicer. Thanks for converting to Open Office.

2. Ideally the easiest way for me to do it would be like how I did it with Praetyre. Where they are in small chunks I can break down. it will take awhile (possibly longer than the freeze) but if we just went one column at a time it would make this HUGE task manageable.

So I guess what I would need for you is to post the buildings one column at a time like I did for the first column and then we can focus on them individually to see if and by how much they need to be changed.

Once discussed I will go alter the building cost. Since after working with Praetyre I am getting pretty good at knowing where each building is in the mod.

2. We may as well start now then. You can go at a good pace if you want, I can keep up and provide feedback. Ideally this would be done before the end of the Long Freeze, as the incompleteness of Praetyre's changes was an issue in V26. I intend to have all unit costs adjusted by the end of the week.
 
@Hydro:

Also, here are revised versions of the spreadsheets I posted yesterday, they've been formatted to be slightly more easy to use and save work time. Just look at the Tech sheet for the suggested cost and then match that with the new Suggested Cost column on the Building sheet and copy-paste.
 
2. We may as well start now then. You can go at a good pace if you want, I can keep up and provide feedback. Ideally this would be done before the end of the Long Freeze, as the incompleteness of Praetyre's changes was an issue in V26. I intend to have all unit costs adjusted by the end of the week.

Ok then I need you to post like I did here. List all the buildings in column X31 with their cost and what the cost of X31 is.

Then we discuss if any need to be changed and then I go in and edit the buildings and post it on the SVN. This spreads out the work since there is no way I can do it all myself.
 
@Hydro:

I'll write up the buildings soon, but here are my plans for the Units. I'll be doing the XML on these except for those in DH's module. Please look them over for inconsistencies and/or dumb errors on my part, a second set of eyes always helps. Note that if the last column is left blank no changes will be made.

Name Current Cost Suggested Cost
UNIT_ASSAULT_DROID 1100 4900
UNIT_PARATROOPER 340 1170
UNIT_BOMBER 430 1170
UNIT_ATOMIC 1200 2000
UNIT_BAZOOKA 375 1170
UNIT_ATTACK_SUBMARINE 450 1170
UNIT_TACTICAL_NUKE 750 1500
UNIT_ICBM 1500 2500
UNIT_DREADNOUGHT 2000 8900
UNIT_FUSION_BATTLESHIP 1330 8900
UNIT_ASSAULT_MECH 1800 8900
UNIT_GREAT_FARMER 500
UNIT_ANCIENT_FLAMETHROWER 125
UNIT_MARINE 320 890
UNIT_AMERICAN_NAVY_SEAL 320 890
UNIT_HOVERCRAFT 450 1400
UNIT_HITECH_MARINE 660 1800
UNIT_SURGEON 90
UNIT_LIGHT_CROSSBOWMAN 50
UNIT_ANCIENT_ROCKETEER 60
UNIT_ANCIENT_HAND_CANNON 80
UNIT_BALLISTA_MAMMOTH 100
UNIT_BALLISTA 100
UNIT_APOTHECARY 80
UNIT_WORKER_ANDROID 600 5000
UNIT_ROBOT_IMP_GUARD 670 6000
UNIT_LEVITATION_ARTILLERY 920 5600
UNIT_FUTURE_ARMOR 1250 6000
UNIT_KUSH_ARCHER 25
UNIT_SURKU 25
UNIT_ARCHER 25
UNIT_BABYLON_BOWMAN 25
UNIT_BLACKWOOD_ARCHER 25
UNIT_SHARKTOOTH_ARCHER 25
UNIT_MUGHAL_BABUR 170
UNIT_NOBLE 150
UNIT_HEAVY_PIKEMAN 75 135
UNIT_RAJPUT 110 135
UNIT_HEAVY_AXEMAN 110 135
UNIT_HEAVY_SWORDSMAN 110 135
UNIT_CAMEL_KNIGHT 80 140
UNIT_ZEBRA_KNIGHT 90 140
UNIT_NAKHARAR 90 140
UNIT_WINGED_CAVALRY 90 140
UNIT_UIGHUR_KNIGHT 90 140
UNIT_TURKOMAN 90 140
UNIT_GRIVPANVAR 90 140
UNIT_FLAIL_ELEPHANT 90 140
UNIT_MAHOUT_LANCER 90 140
UNIT_HOWDAH 90 140
UNIT_KNIGHT 90 140
UNIT_ARABIA_CAMELARCHER 90 140
UNIT_BYZANTINE_CATAPHRACT 90 140
UNIT_WAR_ELEPHANT 90 140
UNIT_SIAM_ELEPHANT 90 140
UNIT_WAR_MAMMOTH 100 160
UNIT_ELMETI 100 160
UNIT_ARMORED_CAR 300 890
UNIT_EARLY_TANK 300 890
UNIT_WW1_DESTROYER 380 890
UNIT_TZAR_TANK 400 1000
UNIT_LIGHT_ARTILLERY 290 600
UNIT_RAILROAD_ARTILLERY 300 600
UNIT_STEAM_DESTROYER 300 600
UNIT_BIG_BERTHA 400 800
UNIT_TORPEDO_BOAT 350 450
UNIT_FLUYT 85 190
UNIT_BARBARY_CORSAIR 85 190
UNIT_ATLATL 20
UNIT_MAYA_HOLKAN 35
UNIT_LIGHT_AA 240 750
UNIT_GUDARI 280 840
UNIT_INFANTRY 280 840
UNIT_MODERN_GRENADIER 280 840
UNIT_FLAMETHROWER 300 840
UNIT_MODERN_IMP_GUARD 310 840
UNIT_FIGHTER 240 890
UNIT_IL2 330 890
UNIT_HALFTRACK 350 950
UNIT_AUTOGYRO 425 1200
UNIT_STONE_AGE_AXEMAN 35
UNIT_SUMERIAN_VULTURE 40
UNIT_NATIVE_AMERICA_DOG_SOLDIER 40
UNIT_BLIMP 370 490
UNIT_EARLY_FOOD_MERCHANT_C2C 20
UNIT_EARLY_MERCHANT_C2C 20
UNIT_SLINGER 20
UNIT_STEALTH_ARMOR 1200 4900
UNIT_FUSION_SUBMARINE 1200 4900
UNIT_AUTOMATONS 350 2400
UNIT_TOMOL 10
UNIT_CANOE 10
UNIT_WAR_CANOE 10
UNIT_ADZE_WARRIOR 40
UNIT_AXE_THROWER 40
UNIT_AXEMAN 40
UNIT_EARLY_MACEMAN 45
UNIT_XIFOS 60
UNIT_BANDIT_FOOTPAD 60
UNIT_BANDIT_RIDER 60
UNIT_PACK_LLAMA 45
UNIT_LLAMA_RIDER 60
UNIT_TUAREG_CAMEL 60
UNIT_CAMEL_RIDER 60
UNIT_ZEBRA_CUIRASSIER 180 300
UNIT_CUIRASSIER 180 300
UNIT_SPANISH_CONQUISTADOR 180 300
UNIT_BOMBARD_ELEPHANT 190 300
UNIT_BOMBARD_MAMMOTH 200 300
UNIT_ELEPHANT_GUNNER 280 450
UNIT_HITTITES_HITTITE_CHARIOT 25
UNIT_ZEBRA_CHARIOT 30
UNIT_EARLYCHARIOT 30
UNIT_CHARIOTARCHER 50
UNIT_CHARIOT 60
UNIT_EGYPT_WARCHARIOT 60
UNIT_CLIPPER_MERCHANT 85 230
UNIT_RA_FIST 80 120
UNIT_CHIVALRY 130 150
UNIT_RA_KNIGHT 150 170
UNIT_LORD 200 250
UNIT_KATARA 85 130
UNIT_KALLARANI 85 130
UNIT_ROZVI 85 130
UNIT_MACEMAN 85 130
UNIT_JAPAN_SAMURAI 85 130
UNIT_VIKING_BESERKER 85 130
UNIT_LOKI 90 130
UNIT_ORNITHOPTER 85 185
UNIT_DAVINCI_TANK 200
UNIT_CLOCKWORK_GOLEM 220
UNIT_CLONES 320 2000
UNIT_CARGO_SHIP 200 500
UNIT_CG_CUTTER 230 730
UNIT_SOMALI_PIRATE 420 800
UNIT_ASSAULT_SHIP 420 800
UNIT_ASSASSIN 80
UNIT_CONSTRUCT_SHIP 600 1750
UNIT_WALKER 1000 2310
UNIT_PRE_DREADNOUGHT 320 680
UNIT_ADVENTURER 140 180
UNIT_STONE_MACEMAN 35
UNIT_INCAN_QUECHUA 35
UNIT_MODERN_MARINE 460 1540
UNIT_AT_INFANTRY 540 1640
UNIT_ROCKET_ARTILLERY 820 2000
UNIT_MODERN_ARMOR 875 2000
UNIT_IMMIGRANT 50
UNIT_PLASMA_THROWER 550 3000
UNIT_SACRED_BAND 35
UNIT_HUAMINCA 35
UNIT_MORAN 35
UNIT_JAVELINEER 35
UNIT_SPEARMAN 35
UNIT_MALI_SKIRMISHER 35
UNIT_ASSYRIAN_REDU 35
UNIT_GREEK_PHALANX 40
UNIT_LAWYER 150
UNIT_POLICE_DOG 180 400
UNIT_RIOTPOLICE 300 560
UNIT_CYBORG 540 5000
UNIT_VERY_HEAVY_ARMOR 600 830
UNIT_FANATIC 65
UNIT_POISON_NOVA 4000 12400
UNIT_TRAINEDDOG 20
UNIT_HERNAN_CORTES 150
UNIT_TUPAC_YUPANQUI 200
UNIT_THOMAS_JEFFERSON 200
UNIT_HENRI_IV 200
UNIT_LORD_NELSON 200
UNIT_AURANGZEB 200
UNIT_ZHENG_HE 200
UNIT_HIDEYOSHI 200
UNIT_GUSTAVUS_ADOLPHUS 200
UNIT_BARBAROSSA 200
UNIT_YI_SUN_SIN 200
UNIT_POCAHONTAS 200
UNIT_TECUN_UMAN 200
UNIT_CONSTANTINE_XI 200
UNIT_HENRY 200
UNIT_MICHIEL_DE_RUYTER 200
UNIT_TIRADENTES 200
UNIT_FRANCISCO 200
UNIT_ULUGH_BEG 200
UNIT_SHAH_RUKH 200
UNIT_DIPONEGORO 200
UNIT_SINBAD 200
UNIT_CHARLES_V 200
UNIT_EUGENE 200
UNIT_IPARHAN 200
UNIT_ISAAC_BROCK 200
UNIT_AMINA 200
UNIT_PEDRO 200
UNIT_LORENZO_DE_MEDICI 200
UNIT_SPECIAL_AGENT 200 1020
UNIT_007 500 2000
UNIT_ELEPHANT_RIDER 65
UNIT_GUARD 70 120
UNIT_CROSSBOWMAN 75 120
UNIT_CHINA_CHOKONU 75 120
UNIT_TREBUCHET 150 200
UNIT_FOOD_SUPPLY_TRAIN 230 300
UNIT_SUPPLY_TRAIN 230 300
UNIT_PERSIA_IMMORTAL 30
UNIT_HORSEMAN 42
UNIT_EXOARMORED_INFANTRY 660 3000
UNIT_POLICE_MECH 800 4000
UNIT_DOLPHIN_MECH 900 4000
UNIT_GRENADIER 150 280
UNIT_RANGER 60 120
UNIT_BENIN_WAR_BOW 65 100
UNIT_YEOMAN 65 100
UNIT_LONGBOWMAN 65 100
UNIT_WARDEN 80 120
UNIT_EARLY_IMP_GUARD 110 120
UNIT_BENIN_EWUARE 150 200
UNIT_WORKBOAT 30
UNIT_POLYNESIAN_KOA 40
UNIT_P51_MUSTANG 95 780
UNIT_FOKKERDR1 170 600
UNIT_DOUBLE_BIPLANE 200 650
UNIT_CITY_GUARD 130 200
UNIT_FRENCH_MUSKETEER 140 210
UNIT_HIGHLANDER 180 260
UNIT_GURKHA 180 260
UNIT_BLACK_GUARD 180 260
UNIT_SEPOY 180 260
UNIT_SHAN_WARRIOR 180 260
UNIT_MUSKETMAN 180 260
UNIT_OTTOMAN_JANISSARY 180 260
UNIT_ETHIOPIAN_OROMO_WARRIOR 180 260
UNIT_BRAZILIAN_BANDEIRANTE 180 260
UNIT_REN_IMP_GUARD 190 260
UNIT_OSTENACO 200 300
UNIT_GERONIMO 200 300
UNIT_CHEROKEE_RIFLEMAN 200 260
UNIT_HERERO_REBEL 230 260
UNIT_STEALTH_SUBMARINE 920 2010
UNIT_HELLSMOUTH_DOG 80 100
UNIT_HASHISHIN 100 130
UNIT_INQUISITOR 100 130
UNIT_HOVER_ARTILLERY 840 4000
UNIT_POWER_ARMORED_INFANTRY 900 4000
UNIT_FUSION_NUKE 3000 12000
UNIT_POISON_NUKE 2000 11000
UNIT_HUMVEE 460 1700
UNIT_GATHERER 25
UNIT_MANOWAR 200 360
UNIT_CROWBAR_GUARD 70 120
UNIT_WRENCH_WARRIOR 85 130
UNIT_APOCALYPSE_URBAN_CROSSBOWMAN 100 150
UNIT_MACHETE_WARRIOR 110 150
UNIT_HATCHET_MAN 110 150
UNIT_GUERRILLA 240 700
UNIT_ARTILLERY 300 890
UNIT_MODERN_FLAMETHROWER 400 890
UNIT_BIOLOGICAL_WARFARE_MISSILE 270 1000
UNIT_GUIDED_MISSILE 300 1100
UNIT_SAM_INFANTRY 450 1540
UNIT_GALLEASS 65 120
UNIT_SLOOP_OF_WAR 125 150
UNIT_BOMBARD 200
UNIT_GREAT_BOMBARD 225
UNIT_INUIT_HARPOONER 35
UNIT_IRONWOOD_CLUBMAN 45
UNIT_WARLORDII 200
UNIT_CANIS_SUPERIOR 360 2400
UNIT_FERAL 800 6400
UNIT_MOUNTED_INFANTRY 50
UNIT_BALLOON 170 220
UNIT_HUNTER 40
UNIT_SCRAMJET 1080 4000
UNIT_DIGGER 160 600
UNIT_PATTON 300 780
UNIT_ERWIN_ROMMEL 300 780
UNIT_YAMAMOTO 300 780
UNIT_NELSON_MANDELA 300 780
UNIT_BATTLECRUISER 360 780
UNIT_DREADNOUGHT_HELGOLAND 400 800
UNIT_HEAVY_CAVALRY 100 140
UNIT_FUSION_TRANSPORT 500 3500
UNIT_SPECIAL_INFANTRY 920 5200
UNIT_FF_DESTROYER_I 920 5200
UNIT_HUSKARL 60
UNIT_LIGHT_SWORDSMAN 60
UNIT_ISRAELI_MACCABEE 60
UNIT_TIBETIAN_DOB_DOB 60
UNIT_CELTIC_GALLIC_WARRIOR 75
UNIT_SWAZI_TRACKER 80
UNIT_ROME_PRAETORIAN 80
UNIT_F104_STARFIGHTER 125 700
UNIT_F4_PHANTOM 310 1340
UNIT_P59 330 1340
UNIT_F111_AARDVARK 340 1340
UNIT_JET_FIGHTER 450 1500
UNIT_F14_TOMCAT 460 1500
UNIT_B52_BOMBER 490 1750
UNIT_CARRIER 650 2500
UNIT_MRBM 775 2000
UNIT_IRBM 800 3000
UNIT_SR71 900 3500
UNIT_SPECIAL_FORCES 500 1170
UNIT_MSNIPER 500 1170
UNIT_GUARDDOG 90 230
UNIT_WARLORDIII 300 550
UNIT_VICEROY 400 650
UNIT_CHIEF_LITTLE_CROW 100 150
UNIT_TRISONG_DETSEN 100 150
UNIT_ARPAD 100
UNIT_CHIEF_SLEEPY_EYE 150
UNIT_ITZCOATL 150
UNIT_MANCO_CAPAC 150
UNIT_EL_CID 150
UNIT_ROBIN_HOOD 150
UNIT_FREDERICK_BARBAROSSA 150
UNIT_IVAN_IV 150
UNIT_BAIBARS 150
UNIT_KHALID 150
UNIT_ROSTAM 150
UNIT_GUAN_YU 150
UNIT_OGODAI 150
UNIT_SUBOTEI 150
UNIT_SUNDIATA_KEITA 150
UNIT_MANSA_SAKURA 150
UNIT_ARTHUR 150
UNIT_CANUTE 150
UNIT_OSMAN 150
UNIT_HIAWATHA 150
UNIT_BASIL_II 150
UNIT_AFONSO_HENRIQUES 150
UNIT_PIER 150
UNIT_JAYAVARMAN_II 150
UNIT_JAYAVARMAN_VII 150
UNIT_TUITATUI 150
UNIT_JADWIGA 150
UNIT_CASIMIR 150
UNIT_TRUNG_SISTERS 150
UNIT_AROK 150
UNIT_SHEHE_MVITA 150
UNIT_BILGE_KHAN 150
UNIT_SURIYOTHAI 150
UNIT_RAJARAJA_CHOLA 150
UNIT_BAYAJIDDA 150
UNIT_NIMI 150
UNIT_ENRICO_DANDOLO 150
UNIT_YUSUF 150
UNIT_KAHINA 150
UNIT_STEPHEN_I 150
UNIT_LEO_I 150
UNIT_ALFRED 170
UNIT_ALP_ARSLAN 170
UNIT_CAO_CAO 170
UNIT_ABAOJI 200
UNIT_JOAN_OF_ARC 250
UNIT_AMBULANCE_II 300 1020
UNIT_WARLORDV 500 1550
UNIT_LUNAR_ROVER 550 1500
UNIT_JEEP 320 890
UNIT_SUBMERGED_TOWN_PLATFORM 300 4000
UNIT_SHAOLINMK 75 130
UNIT_TOWN_WATCHMEN 37 40
UNIT_CELEBRITY 100 1000
UNIT_LARA_CROFT 250 2000
UNIT_GAME_HUNTER 100 200
UNIT_ARQUEBUSIER 100 200
UNIT_SHARPSHOOTER 100 200
UNIT_COCHISE 150 300
UNIT_HIGHWAYMAN 225 250
UNIT_FALCONET 250 400
UNIT_MOTAR 250 600
UNIT_LIGHT_TANK 335 900
UNIT_GERMAN_PANZER 400 1020
UNIT_TANK 420 1020
UNIT_CRUISER 440 1020
UNIT_HEAVY_CRUISER 490 1100
UNIT_HEAVY_TANK_M26 500 1020
UNIT_WW2_BATTLESHIP 500 1300
UNIT_MEDIC 100 490
UNIT_WAR_RHINO 25
UNIT_DEERRIDER 40
UNIT_RHINO_SWORDSMAN 40
UNIT_BEARRIDER 50
UNIT_DEER_ARCHER 50
UNIT_GIRAFFE_ARCHER 50
UNIT_TRAINED_MAMMOTH 70
UNIT_BISON_RIDER 90
UNIT_BEARKNIGHT 100
UNIT_FUSION_CARRIER 1500 7000
UNIT_PRIVATEER 140 230
UNIT_REPEATING_CROSSBOWMAN 100 140
UNIT_SLOOP 100 200
UNIT_HEAVY_CROSSBOWMAN 100 200
UNIT_BRIGANTINE 125 200
UNIT_SIEGE_WAGON 240 300
UNIT_RIBAULDEQUIN 250 350
UNIT_MOBILE_ARTILLERY 400 1340
UNIT_DESTROYER 470 1600
UNIT_BATTLESHIP 650 2000
UNIT_NLOS_CANNON 820 3000
UNIT_WALKER_ARTILLERY 1300 5000
UNIT_MISSILE_CRUISER 780 1540
UNIT_PRECISION_ATTACK_MISSILE 700 2500
UNIT_FUTURE_APC 840 3000
UNIT_HITECH_HOVERCRAFT 850 3000
UNIT_LITTORAL_COMBAT_SHIP 1000 3000
UNIT_SNIPER 200 420
UNIT_SHIP_OF_THE_LINE 270 450
UNIT_WARLORDIV 400 600
UNIT_WARDOG 30
UNIT_WARLORDI 100
UNIT_GOTH_ALARIC 110
UNIT_TURN 4000 15000
UNIT_NAVAL_MINE 170 370
UNIT_LAND_MINE 170 370
UNIT_NAVAL_MINE_SWEEPER 200 400
UNIT_LAND_MINE_SWEEPER 200 400
UNIT_MODERN_INFANTRY 420 1170
UNIT_BTR80 420 1170
UNIT_LANDING_SHIP 540 1600
UNIT_ARMOR_M60 600 1600
UNIT_SKI_PATROL 400 1500
UNIT_MODERN_PARATROOPER 490 1700
UNIT_MOBILE_SAM 580 2010
UNIT_MODERN_HOVERCRAFT 650 2010
UNIT_AH64_GUNSHIP 710 2010
UNIT_f35 790 2500
UNIT_NUCLEAR_CARRIER 800 2500
UNIT_T95 1000 2500
UNIT_HYDROGEN 2000 5000
UNIT_WORKER_MODERN 120 600
UNIT_AMBULANCE 200 840
UNIT_MOTORCYCLE 220 840
UNIT_TRANSPORT 250 840
UNIT_MOBSTER_CAR 270 840
UNIT_POLICE_CAR 350 900
UNIT_FOOD_FREIGHT 400 1000
UNIT_FREIGHT 400 1000
UNIT_HOSPITAL_SHIP 600 1500
UNIT_HOSPITAL_SHIP_2 800 2000
UNIT_CHEYENNE_RIDER 45
UNIT_CARTHAGE_NUMIDIAN_CAVALRY 55
UNIT_LLAMA_ARCHER 60
UNIT_CAMEL_ARCHER 60
UNIT_ZEBRA_ARCHER 65
UNIT_TARKAN 65
UNIT_MANCHU_HORSEARCHER 65
UNIT_HORSE_ARCHER 65
UNIT_HORSE_CROSSBOWMAN 65
UNIT_COMANCHE_HORSE_ARCHER 70
UNIT_MONGOL_KESHIK 75
UNIT_BALLISTA_ELEPHANT 90
UNIT_NANITE_SWARM 1350 6800
UNIT_ACV 670 6000
UNIT_ACVSAM 840 6400
UNIT_CULVERIN 250 500
UNIT_TROTSKY 250 500
UNIT_NDLELA 250 500
UNIT_MENELIK 250 500
UNIT_LUIS 250 500
UNIT_ANTONIO 250 500
UNIT_QUANG_TRUNG 250 500
UNIT_ARTHUR_CURRIE 250 500
UNIT_HENRY_PARKES 250 500
UNIT_JOHN_MONASH 250 500
UNIT_CHULALONGKORN 250 500
UNIT_CANNON 255 350
UNIT_HEALER 40
UNIT_SEAPLANE 170 700
UNIT_EARLY_CARRIER 525 1500
UNIT_GALLEON 130 300
UNIT_SPANISH_GALLEON 130 300
UNIT_NETHERLANDS_OOSTINDIEVAARDER 130 300
UNIT_FRIGATE 150 300
UNIT_ORGAN_GUN 260
UNIT_WARGALLEY 34
UNIT_COLONIST 200 300
UNIT_AEGIS 750 1750
UNIT_WORKER_INDUSTRIAL 100 450
UNIT_WANDERER 10
UNIT_NUCLEAR_SUBMARINE 670 1840
UNIT_OLMEC_EAGLE_WARRIOR 15
UNIT_TOMAHAWK_THROWER 30
UNIT_HURON_MANLET 50
UNIT_AZTEC_JAGUAR 55
UNIT_LIGHTNING_WARRIOR 55
UNIT_COYOTE_RUNNER 55
UNIT_ARSONIST 100
UNIT_CARRACK_MERCHANT 65 160
UNIT_CARAVEL 75 160
UNIT_PORTUGAL_CARRACK 75 170
UNIT_STORY_TELLER 35
UNIT_ORBITAL_FIGHTER 1500 5900
UNIT_ORBITAL_BOMBER 1670 6500
UNIT_SCOUT 15
UNIT_SACAGAWEA 15
UNIT_TRACKER 20
UNIT_CREE_TRACKER 40
UNIT_CHASER 10
UNIT_ROGUE 60
UNIT_AGENT 100
UNIT_SPIKED_CLUBMAN 25
UNIT_COG_MERCHANT 50
UNIT_OFFSHORE_PLATFORM 200 890
UNIT_PACKMULE 35
UNIT_WORKBUFFALO 80
UNIT_WORKMULE 80
UNIT_WORKELEPHANT 80
UNIT_CARIB_BLOWGUNNER 15
UNIT_AMBUSHER 20
UNIT_TUPI_CUNHAMBEBE 100
UNIT_LEGEND_SPARTAN 120
UNIT_RAFT 8
UNIT_PLASMA_ARMOR 1400 4500
UNIT_THERMOBARIC_TANK 1300 3000
UNIT_BLEEDER 600 6000
UNIT_BIG_GAME_HUNTER 230 370
UNIT_JAEGER 230 370
UNIT_SIYU_WARRIOR 230 370
UNIT_RIFLEMAN 230 370
UNIT_ENGLISH_REDCOAT 230 370
UNIT_SHERIFF 230 370
UNIT_KLAMATH_RIFLEMAN 230 370
UNIT_NAVAJO_RIFLEMAN 232 370
UNIT_GATLING_GUN 270 370
UNIT_MODERN_FRIGATE 210 1540
UNIT_MECHANIZED_INFANTRY 590 1500
UNIT_V1 120 1020
UNIT_COG 60
UNIT_MIDDLE_WORKBOAT 90
UNIT_CLASSIC_WORKBOAT 60
UNIT_GALLEY 60
UNIT_PYGMY_WARRIOR 5
UNIT_PAPUAN_CANNIBAL 15
UNIT_THIEF 50
UNIT_MODERN_WORKBOAT 200 520
UNIT_IRONCLAD 200 520
UNIT_WORKER 60
UNIT_VIETCONG 280 520
UNIT_MACHINE_GUN 280 520
UNIT_HITECH_ROBOT 2400 10200
UNIT_FUSION_NOVA 9000 25000
UNIT_PHOENICAN_BIREME 60
UNIT_TRIREME 60
UNIT_QUINQUEREME 60
UNIT_DECAREME 60
UNIT_QUINQUEREME2 60
UNIT_DROMON_FIRE_SHIP 70
UNIT_DRAGON_SHIP_PIRATE 75
UNIT_MENALAMBA 50 95
UNIT_PIKEMAN 50 95
UNIT_HOLY_ROMAN_LANDSKNECHT 50 95
UNIT_INDONESIAN_SILAT 50 95
UNIT_SWISS_PIKEMAN 50 95
UNIT_SKIRMISHER 50 95
UNIT_KHMER_PHAK'AK 55 95
UNIT_CATAPULT 100 150
UNIT_WAR_WAGON 120 150
UNIT_KOREAN_HWACHA 120 150
UNIT_SIEGE_RAM 120 150
UNIT_SIEGE_TOWER 200
UNIT_BOOMERANG_THROWER 20
UNIT_WOODEN_SPEARMAN 25
UNIT_HYBRID_GUNSHIP 1000 4500
UNIT_MEDEVAC_DROPSHIP 1300 5200
UNIT_NANITE_SPY 1000 6800
UNIT_URUMI_SWORDSMAN 85 110
UNIT_TIGERCLAW 85 110
UNIT_SWORDSMAN 85 110
UNIT_STONE_AGE_SPEARMAN 30
UNIT_ZULU_IMPI 35
UNIT_STILETTO_BOAT 460 1700
UNIT_STEALTH_DESTROYER 670 2010
UNIT_F117 750 2010
UNIT_STEALTH_BOMBER 920 2500
UNIT_PADDLE_STEAMER 110 420
UNIT_PIONEER 250 420
UNIT_IRON_FRIGATE 250 600
UNIT_CAMEL_GUNNER 260 420
UNIT_ZEBRA_CAVALRY 270 420
UNIT_HUSSAR 270 420
UNIT_LLANERO 270 420
UNIT_CAVALRY 270 420
UNIT_RUSSIA_COSSACK 270 420
UNIT_MEXICO_RURALES 270 420
UNIT_CANADIAN_MOUNTIE 270 420
UNIT_OUTLAW 300 420
UNIT_APACHE_CAVALRY 320 420
UNIT_WAR_WHEEL 220 450
UNIT_NAUTILUS 290 550
UNIT_STEAM_TANK 300 450
UNIT_SAVANNA_CAVALRY 65 90
UNIT_FULANI_CAVALRY 65 90
UNIT_MANDEKALU 65 90
UNIT_LIGHT_CAVALRY 65 90
UNIT_LIBERTY_MERCHANT 150 500
UNIT_QSHIP 170 650
UNIT_SUBMARINE 290 890
UNIT_UBOAT 300 890
UNIT_A10_BOMBER 580 1540
UNIT_F15 580 1540
UNIT_F18_HORNET 585 1540
UNIT_F22_RAPTOR 600 1540
UNIT_B52 625 1750
UNIT_B1_LANCER 640 1900
UNIT_EXTRACTION_FACILITY 400 4000
UNIT_HTSNIPER 700 6000
UNIT_SPACE_SAM_INFANTRY 1200 6400
UNIT_SIEGE_DROID 1600 6400
UNIT_EXPERIMENTAL 8000 50000
UNIT_SENTINEL 2000 8900
UNIT_BATTERING_RAM 80
UNIT_MONK 50 80
UNIT_WARRIOR 15
UNIT_NEANDERTHAL_WARRIOR 20
UNIT_FOOD_CARAVAN 60
UNIT_TRADE_CARAVAN 60
UNIT_TRENCH_INFANTRY 120 640
UNIT_TRIBE 1 (??)
UNIT_DRONE 400 2150
UNIT_UAV 1250 2150
UNIT_UNMANNED_DESTROYER 480 2640
UNIT_UNMANNED_PIRATE_SKIFF 640 2000
UNIT_UNMANNED_SUBMARINE 910 2640
UNIT_WARLORD_VASSAL 200 250
UNIT_EARLY_MEDIVAC 400 1340
UNIT_GUNSHIP 480 1340
UNIT_MODERN_MEDIVAC 700 1940
UNIT_POMBOS 35
UNIT_SCOUT_MECH 800 4000
UNIT_ANTI_PERSONNEL_MECH 1000 4500
UNIT_FUSION_CRUISER 1100 4500
UNIT_DROPSHIP 1350 4500
UNIT_NANITE_CLOUD 3000 10200
UNIT_TESLA_INFANTRY 920 4500
UNIT_WALKER_MECH 1600 7000
UNIT_HAND_RAM 30
UNIT_NOOTKA_CLUBMAN 35
UNIT_TEWHATEWHA 40
UNIT_SPY 40
UNIT_EXPLORER 45
UNIT_HUITZILOPOCHTLI 100
UNIT_ROMULUS 100
UNIT_SCIPIO_AFRICANUS 100
UNIT_ODYSSEUS 100
UNIT_LEONIDAS 100
UNIT_KHAEMWASET 100
UNIT_THUTMOSE_III 100
UNIT_SHAPUR 100
UNIT_CHANDRAGUPTA_MAURYA 100
UNIT_DIDO 100
UNIT_HAMILCAR 100
UNIT_MERLIN 100
UNIT_GWANGGAETO 100
UNIT_KUKULCAN 100
UNIT_NEDBUCHADNEZZAR 100
UNIT_NABOPOLASSAR 100
UNIT_ENKIDU 100
UNIT_SARGON 100
UNIT_EZANA 100
UNIT_MAUI 100
UNIT_SOLOMON 100
UNIT_MACCABEUS 100
UNIT_GESAR 100
UNIT_TAHARQA 100
UNIT_LABARNA 100
UNIT_MURSILI 100
UNIT_BAAL_ESER 100
UNIT_ITHOBAAL 100
UNIT_KARIKALA_CHOLA 100
UNIT_ASHURBANIPAL 100
UNIT_SEMIRAMIS 100
UNIT_DAEDALUS 100
UNIT_THESEUS 100
UNIT_HAYK 100
UNIT_AGUEYBANA 120
UNIT_BARRAGE_BALLOON 70 600
UNIT_AIRSHIP 90 600
UNIT_GOLIATH_AIRSHIP 400 900
UNIT_DRACHE_HELICOPTER 425 900
UNIT_BAHAI_MISSIONARY 40
UNIT_SIKH_MISSIONARY 40
UNIT_TENGRI_MISSIONARY 40
 
@Hydro:

Here's the first set of buildings I've gone through. Please check to make sure I haven't made any stupid mistakes before changing everything though.

Name Tech Requirement Cost New Cost
BUILDINGCLASS_DESIGN_STUDIO TECH_3D_MODELLING 490 1760
BUILDINGCLASS_AI_SURVEILLANCE TECH_ADVANCED_COMPUTERS 616 4900
BUILDINGCLASS_COMPUTER_CENTER TECH_ADVANCED_COMPUTERS 1500 14700
BUILDINGCLASS_COMMERCIAL_AIRPORT TECH_ADVANCED_FLIGHT 420 1170
BUILDINGCLASS_PARTS_PLANT TECH_ADVANCED_METALLURGY 450 840
BUILDINGCLASS_TITANIUM_MINE TECH_ADVANCED_METALLURGY 100 200
BUILDINGCLASS_MISSILE_BATTERY TECH_ADVANCED_ROCKETRY 500 1170
BUILDINGCLASS_MISSILE_SILO TECH_ADVANCED_ROCKETRY 350 1170
BUILDINGCLASS_ADVANCED_SHIELDING TECH_ADVANCED_SHIELDING 600 8900
BUILDINGCLASS_NATIONAL_SHIELD TECH_ADVANCED_SHIELDING 5000 26700
BUILDINGCLASS_ALPACA_FARM TECH_AESTHETICS 50 60
BUILDINGCLASS_ANGORA_GOAT_BREEDER TECH_AESTHETICS 50 60
BUILDINGCLASS_ANGORA_RABBIT_BREEDER TECH_AESTHETICS 50 60
BUILDINGCLASS_BURMESE_EMBASSY TECH_AESTHETICS 200 400
BUILDINGCLASS_CAVES TECH_AESTHETICS 500 720
BUILDINGCLASS_CHOLA_EMBASSY TECH_AESTHETICS 200 400
BUILDINGCLASS_ERECTION TECH_AESTHETICS 300 720
BUILDINGCLASS_KOTOKU TECH_AESTHETICS 380 720
BUILDINGCLASS_NECROMANTEION TECH_AESTHETICS 280 720
BUILDINGCLASS_PARTHENON TECH_AESTHETICS 400 720
BUILDINGCLASS_SHWEDAGON_PAYA TECH_AESTHETICS 675 720
BUILDINGCLASS_TAILOR_SHOP TECH_AESTHETICS 75 95
BUILDINGCLASS_THRONE_ROOM TECH_AESTHETICS 180 290
BUILDINGCLASS_WIG_SHOP TECH_AESTHETICS 60 95
BUILDINGCLASS_WOOLY_PIG_BREEDER TECH_AESTHETICS 50 95
BUILDINGCLASS_GREAT_CHINAMPA TECH_AGRICULTURAL_TOOLS 100 130
BUILDINGCLASS_HAND_PUMP TECH_AGRICULTURAL_TOOLS 250 300
BUILDINGCLASS_INCAN_TERRACE TECH_AGRICULTURAL_TOOLS 50 80
BUILDINGCLASS_RICE_TERRACE TECH_AGRICULTURAL_TOOLS 100 130
BUILDINGCLASS_DISTILLERY TECH_ALCHEMY 100 135
BUILDINGCLASS_LAB TECH_ALCHEMY 110 135
BUILDINGCLASS_DJENNE TECH_ALGEBRA 600 1080
BUILDINGCLASS_DOCTOR TECH_ANATOMY 165 180
BUILDINGCLASS_ACUPUNCTURISTS_SHOP TECH_ANCIENT_MEDICINE 40 80
BUILDINGCLASS_APOTHECARY_SHOP TECH_ANCIENT_MEDICINE 100 80
BUILDINGCLASS_FOUNDLING_HOSPITAL TECH_ANCIENT_MEDICINE 500 600
BUILDINGCLASS_HIPOCRATIC_OATH TECH_ANCIENT_MEDICINE 300 600
BUILDINGCLASS_PLAGUE_HOSPITAL TECH_ANCIENT_MEDICINE 65 80
BUILDINGCLASS_SOAP_MAKER TECH_ANCIENT_MEDICINE 35 80
BUILDINGCLASS_ANDROID_FACTORY TECH_ANDROIDS 1500 5900
BUILDINGCLASS_DISNEYLAND TECH_ANIMATION 2500 4680
BUILDINGCLASS_PENICILLIN TECH_ANTIBIOTICS 850 3120
BUILDINGCLASS_VACCINE_LAB TECH_ANTIBIOTICS 400 520
BUILDINGCLASS_HIGHWAY_PROJECT TECH_APPLIED_ECONOMICS 500 1340
BUILDINGCLASS_WORLD_BANK TECH_APPLIED_ECONOMICS 750 4000
BUILDINGCLASS_ANTIQUE_SHOP TECH_ARCHEOLOGY 200 280
BUILDINGCLASS_ARCHAEOLOGY_LAB TECH_ARCHEOLOGY 250 280
BUILDINGCLASS_ROSETTA_STONE TECH_ARCHEOLOGY 1000 1680
BUILDINGCLASS_JSBACH_CATHEDRAL TECH_ARCHITECTURE 660 750
BUILDINGCLASS_MUGHAL_EMBASSY TECH_ARCHITECTURE 400 600
BUILDINGCLASS_PISA TECH_ARCHITECTURE 600 750
BUILDINGCLASS_SAN_MARCOS_CATHEDRAL TECH_ARCHITECTURE 500 750
BUILDINGCLASS_ARMENIAN_EMBASSY TECH_ARMORED_CAVALRY 400 500
BUILDINGCLASS_TANK_FACTORY TECH_ARMORED_VEHICLES 300 890
BUILDINGCLASS_INCUBATION_CENTER TECH_ARTIFICIAL_EVOLUTION 1500 6800
BUILDINGCLASS_BODY_EXCHANGE TECH_ARTIFICIAL_LIFE 750 7800
BUILDINGCLASS_BODY_EXCHANGE_CLINIC TECH_ARTIFICIAL_LIFE 1500 15000
BUILDINGCLASS_ARTILLERY_BATTERY TECH_ARTILLERY 300 600
BUILDINGCLASS_ASCENSION_GATE TECH_ASCENSION 10000 60000
BUILDINGCLASS_CHAMBER_OF_COMMERCE TECH_ASSEMBLY_LINE 215 450
BUILDINGCLASS_EMPCLOTH_STORE TECH_ASSEMBLY_LINE 500 450
BUILDINGCLASS_SOAP_FACTORY TECH_ASSEMBLY_LINE 300 450
BUILDINGCLASS_GALACTIC_CANTINA TECH_ASTROANTHROPOLOGY 4000 6800
BUILDINGCLASS_ASTROBIOLOGY_LAB TECH_ASTROBIOLOGY 600 1880
BUILDINGCLASS_METEORITE_LAB TECH_ASTROGEOLOGY 400 1760
BUILDINGCLASS_COPERNICUS_OBSERVATORY TECH_ASTRONOMY 660 1140
BUILDINGCLASS_OBSERVATORY TECH_ASTRONOMY 360 190
BUILDINGCLASS_MATTER_DECOMPILER TECH_ATOMIZATION_FIELD 2000 6000
BUILDINGCLASS_PERSONAL_RAPID_TRAIN TECH_AUTOMATED_TRAFFIC 675 3200
BUILDINGCLASS_AUTOCANNON_BATTERY TECH_AUTOMATIC_WEAPONS 400 840
BUILDINGCLASS_MOB_STOREFRONT TECH_AUTOMATIC_WEAPONS 320 840
BUILDINGCLASS_AIRFIELD TECH_AVIATION 300 780
BUILDINGCLASS_MILITARY_AIRBASE TECH_AVIATION 520 890
BUILDINGCLASS_WILLOWRUN TECH_AVIATION 1800 5400
BUILDINGCLASS_BARBWIRE_FENCE TECH_BARBED_WIRE 400 600
BUILDINGCLASS_PHARMACY TECH_BATTLEFIELD_MEDICINE 180 350
BUILDINGCLASS_BICYCLE_SHOP TECH_BICYCLES 60 370
BUILDINGCLASS_VELODROME TECH_BICYCLES 260 370
BUILDINGCLASS_BIOFUEL_PLANT TECH_BIOFUELS 1000 2310
BUILDINGCLASS_BIOFUEL_REFINERY TECH_BIOFUELS 1000 2310
BUILDINGCLASS_ETHANOL_STATION TECH_BIOFUELS 320 2000
BUILDINGCLASS_BIOLOGICAL_WARFARE_LAB TECH_BIOLOGICAL_WARFARE 490 1250
BUILDINGCLASS_SECRET_ARMY_BASE TECH_BIOLOGICAL_WARFARE 1400 3750
BUILDINGCLASS_ARBORETUM TECH_BOTANY 250 280
BUILDINGCLASS_BOTANICAL_GARDENS TECH_BOTANY 1200 1500
BUILDINGCLASS_MIND_CONTROL_CENTER TECH_BRAIN_SCAN 600 4000
BUILDINGCLASS_RODEO TECH_CAVALRY_TACTICS 200 280
 
@ls612

Well the reason I wanted to have them grouped by the X column is so we could also compare them to each other. Especially in the early part of the game where their starts are closer to the right value.

As for units I do not think it is as simple as "this unit is in this column so it must be this cost". An infantry unit for instance would cost less than a Tank of the same era. Same goes for siege, aircraft, boat, etc.

It should be the relative value of what they are at the time to the other units. Thus if you have it at a ratio of 1:2:5 and then the base value is 10 then the cost of the 3 units should be like 10:20:50. Rather than them all being 10.
 
@ls612

Well the reason I wanted to have them grouped by the X column is so we could also compare them to each other. Especially in the early part of the game where their starts are closer to the right value.

As for units I do not think it is as simple as "this unit is in this column so it must be this cost". An infantry unit for instance would cost less than a Tank of the same era. Same goes for siege, aircraft, boat, etc.

It should be the relative value of what they are at the time to the other units. Thus if you have it at a ratio of 1:2:5 and then the base value is 10 then the cost of the 3 units should be like 10:20:50. Rather than them all being 10.

Unfortunately I can't do that due to the limitations of my spreadsheet skills and Koshling's old scanner tool. I can only sort the buildings by cost or by name without doing a whole bunch of manual work, which isn't going to happen. I apologize for that limitation.

With regards to the Unit costs, I already adjusted Many of the costs from my guidelines based off of my knowledge of the system. For instance, Carriers are more expensive than their planes, Heroes are more expensive than their contemporaries, etc. I was posting that to have a second set of eyes check for stupid errors on my part. I'm far more interested in your feedback and changing for buildings, as I am less familiar with those.
 
@ls612

Ok now for plan #4. Back to X30 for the wonders we did not do ...

X30 = 80

National Wonders = x3 (240)
World Wonders = x8 (640)

Astrology
- NONE

Naghualism
- NONE

Literature
WW
- Piazza San Marco = 800
- Great Library = 525
- Ho Trai Library = 140
NW
- Heroic Epic = 200
- National Epic = 250

Democracy
- NONE

City Planning
NW
- Forbidden Palace = 200

Construction
WW
- Akshardham = 550
- Meenakshi Temple = 600
- Flavian Amphitheater = 650
- Hadrian's Wall = 375

Mounted Archery
WW
- Some Culture Wonders = 200

Culture wonders I am going to deal with separately since they are different than normal wonders.

So what do you think of these? Increase them to 240 (national) and 640 (world)?
 
@ls612

Alright. Done and next ...

X31 = 90

National Wonders = x3 (270)
World Wonders = x8 (720)

Spice Trade
- Bunch of Farms = 50 (I want to keep all the farms at 50 no mater where they are)
- Perfume Maker = 60
- Tea House = 100
- Coffee Shop = 100

Ancient Medicine
- Apothecary Shop = 100
- Acupuncture Shop = 40
- Plague Hospital = 65
- Soap Maker = 35
NW
- Foundling Hospital = 500
WW
- Hippocratic Oath = 300

Calligraphy
- NONE

Meritocracy
- NONE

Concrete
- Concrete Mason = 50

Ancient Ballistics
- NONE

Stirrup
- Highwayman's Hideout = 160
- Knights Stable = 100

So what do you think? Note some techs that say NONE do have enabled units and/or civics. They are not completely blank. They just don't have wonders or buildings. Likewise if I find a culture wonder I will be leaving it off the list.
 
@ls612

Alright. Done and next ...

X31 = 90

National Wonders = x3 (270)
World Wonders = x8 (720)

Spice Trade
- Bunch of Farms = 50 (I want to keep all the farms at 50 no mater where they are)
- Perfume Maker = 60
- Tea House = 100
- Coffee Shop = 100

Ancient Medicine
- Apothecary Shop = 100
- Acupuncture Shop = 40
- Plague Hospital = 65
- Soap Maker = 35
NW
- Foundling Hospital = 500
WW
- Hippocratic Oath = 300

Calligraphy
- NONE

Meritocracy
- NONE

Concrete
- Concrete Mason = 50

Ancient Ballistics
- NONE

Stirrup
- Highwayman's Hideout = 160
- Knights Stable = 100

So what do you think? Note some techs that say NONE do have enabled units and/or civics. They are not completely blank. They just don't have wonders or buildings. Likewise if I find a culture wonder I will be leaving it off the list.

Hippocratic Oath, Perfume Maker, and Concrete Mason need cost increases. The Foundling Hospital IIRC requires something else down the tech tree, so I'd leave it for now. the Highwayman's Hideout is Vokarya's building, so I don't know if it should have it's cost reduced. Other than that it seems fine.
 
Hippocratic Oath, Perfume Maker, and Concrete Mason need cost increases. The Foundling Hospital IIRC requires something else down the tech tree, so I'd leave it for now. the Highwayman's Hideout is Vokarya's building, so I don't know if it should have it's cost reduced. Other than that it seems fine.

Highwayman's Hideout is really not available until Matchlock. We can tweak it at that point. I only put Stirrup on the Hideout to follow the example of requiring Stirrup for most mounted units, and I wanted the building and the Highwayman unit to match up prerequisite-wise.
 
@ls612

Alright. Done and next ...

X32 = 100

National Wonders = x3 (300)
World Wonders = x8 (800)

Drug Trade
- Bunch of Farms = 50 (Keeping them the same as other farms)
- Cigar Rollers Shop = 80

Insurance
- NONE

Aesthetics
- Fountain = 50
- Throne Room = 180
- Bunch of Animal Farms = 50 (Keeping them all the same)
- Tailor Shop = 75
- Wig Shop = 60
WW
- Shwedagon Paya = 675
- Kotoku-in =380
- Bezeklik Caves = 500
- Aksharidham = 550
- Meenashi Temple = 600
- Erechteum = 300
- The Necromeeceon = 280
- Behistun Inscription = 400
- Pir-e Naraki = 400
- Itukushima Shrine = 200
- Ishtargate = 400
- The Parthenon = 400

Confucianism
- NONE

Philosophy
WW
- Angkor Wat = 850

Canal Systems
- Water Pipes = 60
- Aqueduct = 100
- Bath House = 60
- Gondola Canals = 60
- Chinampa = 50
- Plumbers Workshop = 180
NW
- Department of Water = 600
WW
- Hammam = 700
- Baray = 700
- Point du Gard = 700

Siege Warfare
- Siege Weapon Workshop = 100
- Gatehouse = 150
- High Walls = 100
- Guard House = 60

What do you think? Also most of those Aesthetics tech wonders are custom wonders by other people (ex. DH, Vokarya, etc).
 
@Hydro:

Here are the changes that I think should be made.

-Wig shop, Tailor shop, Bath House, Guard House, Chinampa, Water Pipes and Cigar Roller's Shop should be increased to 100
-All of the Aesthetics wonders should be addressed by DH or Vokarya, but I think some of them will need increases.
 
@Hydro:

Here are the changes that I think should be made.

-Wig shop, Tailor shop, Bath House, Guard House, Chinampa, Water Pipes and Cigar Roller's Shop should be increased to 100
-All of the Aesthetics wonders should be addressed by DH or Vokarya, but I think some of them will need increases.

I haven't done anything with Aesthetics-based Wonders. Most of them look like they are DancingHoskuld's wonders because they are religion-specific.
 
The Parthenon and Shwedagon Paya are core wonders if you want me to change those at least.

Sure. Also, could you post in batches of more than one row please? I'm about 40% done with the Units already, and I'd like this to be finished before V27 is released (the weekend after next). Thanks. :goodjob:
 
Sure. Also, could you post in batches of more than one row please? I'm about 40% done with the Units already, and I'd like this to be finished before V27 is released (the weekend after next). Thanks. :goodjob:

Just so you know, I'm going to be posting a lot of suggestions for shuffling around the Medieval-Industrial eras and which columns the techs are going to be in. I don't know if I should actually put them on the SVN while we are in freeze status.
 
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