Industrial and later Building/Unit Costs

[Vokarya]

@ls612

I could not find the Gatehouse or The Parthenon. Anyone know where they are?

Parthenon is in caveman2cosmos\Assets\Modules\Hydro\Spiritual\Spiritual_CIV4BuildingInfos.xml.
City Gatehouse is BUILDINGCLASS_HEAVY_GATES in the main BuildingInfos.xml file.

 

[ls612]

Just so you know, I'm going to be posting a lot of suggestions for shuffling around the Medieval-Industrial eras and which columns the techs are going to be in. I don't know if I should actually put them on the SVN while we are in freeze status.

Go ahead, there's not much of a way for that to break things (at least for Medieval, I think Industrial is pretty good as-is) except for potentially causing XML errors, and as Hydro said it will be easier to do it now than to go back afterwords.

 

[Vokarya]

Go ahead, there's not much of a way for that to break things (at least for Medieval, I think Industrial is pretty good as-is) except for potentially causing XML errors, and as Hydro said it will be easier to do it now than to go back afterwords.

I just put my Medieval Era proposal on the Tech Tree discussion thread. Take a look and let me know what you think. I do want to give a little time for people to look the proposal over and let me know if there is anything they really want me to change.

 

[Hydromancerx]

@ls612

X33 = 105

National Wonders = x3 (315)
World Wonders = x8 (840)

Floristry
- Florist = 60
- Bunch of Flower Farms = 50 (leaving them to be ike the other farms)

Drama
- Drama School = 75
- Theater = 50
WW
- Theater of Dionysus = 450

Jainism
- NONE

Mosaic Working
- Plaza = 50
- Mosaic Workshop = 150

Taoism
- NONE

Sanitation
- Public Pool = 60
- Cistern = 105
- Sewer System = 165
- Barber Shop = 120
- Landfill = 300
- Street Cleaner = 300
WW
- Pir-e Naraki = 400

Machinery
- City Gate = 90
- Mechanical Traps = 50
- Treadmill Crane = 50
- Carriage Builder = 60
- Watermill = 90
- Windmill = 90
- Donkey Mill = 90
- Oxen Mill = 90
- Lumbermill = 50

 

[Hydromancerx]

@ls612

X34 = 110

National Wonders = x3 (330)
World Wonders = x8 (880)

Music
- A Bunch of Cathedrals = 300
- Music School = 75
- Ballroom = 50

Poetry
- Odeon = 80

Paved Roads
- Paved Roads = 100
WW
- Via Appia = 600

Weather Lore
- NONE

Smithing
- Armour = 120
NW
- Blacksmith Guild = 400

Vassalage
WW
Himeji Samurai Castle = 450

I am going to wait until Vokarya's changes are on the SVN before going on to the Medieval Era.

 

[Dancing Hoskuld]

I don't mind people working in my Custom Wonders folder as I am not doing anything there at the moment. However I a working on the religions a bit so please don't make changes there.

If you need me to make changes be explicit about it or I may miss stuff. RL again.

 

[ls612]

@Hydro:

X33:
(new Costs, no changes for things not listed)

- Florist = 80

Drama
- Drama School = 110
- Theater = 80
WW
- Theater of Dionysus = 840


Mosaic Working
- Plaza = 90

Sanitation
- Public Pool = 90
- Cistern = 105

WW
- Pir-e Naraki = 800

Machinery
- City Gate = 105
- Mechanical Traps = 105
- Treadmill Crane = 105
- Carriage Builder = 105
- Lumbermill = 90

X34:

Music School, Ballroom, and Odeon should be increased. Via Appia and Himeji Samurai Castle are Vokarya's, so ask him before increasing them both to 880.

 

[Dancing Hoskuld]

Himeji Samurai Castle are Vokarya's.

If Vokarya has one then we may have a problem because I have one also.

 

[ls612]

If Vokarya has one then we may have a problem because I have one also.

Oh, maybe it's yours, IDK. I was just assuming it was Vokarya's, that may have been a mistake.

 

[Vokarya]

Oh, maybe it's yours, IDK. I was just assuming it was Vokarya's, that may have been a mistake.

Himeji is not mine. Via Appia is. What do you want it to be costed at?

 

[Vokarya]

For the Medieval Era, these are my contributions. Let me know what you want to change and I will be happy to fix it for you.

Regular Buildings:

• King's Council

This could be priced as a National Wonder: it's actually a pseudo-National Wonder, in that you can only build one of them (it requires Palace), but doesn't take up any National Wonder slots. Since it's fairly restricted in terms of Civics, I don't want the player to be penalized once they switch out of the Civics that enable the Council.

National Wonders:

• King's Tournament

World Wonders:

• Aachen Cathedral
• Alamut
• Blarney Castle
• El Camino de Santiago
• Field of the Cloth of Gold
• Scarborough Fair
• Shaolin Temple
• Troyes Trade Fair

 

[Vokarya]

By the way, I also have two Medieval Wonders set for uploading once the freeze is done. What should these be costed at?

• House of Wisdom: Requires Theology
• Krak des Chevaliers: Requires Engineering and Theology

Both use only column X35 technologies, but I don't know if you want to modify any costs for requiring two technology prerequisites.

 

[Dancing Hoskuld]

Himeji is not mine. Via Appia is. What do you want it to be costed at?

Turns out Himeji isn't mine either.

 

[Hydromancerx]

@ls612

Ok I did all those except for Via Appia and Pir-e Naraki. Via Appia is Vokarya's and I don't know where Pir-e Naraki is. DH's maybe?

BTW the Himeji Samurai Castle was in the core and I changed it along with the City Gates and Theater of Dionysus.

 

[Hydromancerx]

@ls612

X35 = 125

National Wonders = x3 (375)
World Wonders = x8 (1000)

Theology
- Seminary = 195
- Church School = 190
WW
- The Hagia Sophia = 550
- Holy See Library = 500
- El Camino de Santiago = 700

Civil Service
- Civil Servants School = 65
- Gallows = 80
- Servants Quarters = 60
NW
- Servants Guild = 400

Engineering
- Castle = 225
- Citadel = 125
- Moat = 75
- Balistraria = 40
- Catacombs = 80
- Castle Gatehouse = 100
- Dungeon = 60
- Keep Tower = 100
- Ballista Turret = 100
- Engineering School = 150
- Herbalist = 50
WW
- Edinburgh Castle = 660

Fire Brigades
- Fire Brigades = 150

Rudder
NW
- Fishmonger's Guild = 400

Feudalism
- Archery Range = 55
- Castle Keep = 270
- Grand Estate = 125
- Grand Manor = 100
- Squatters Camps = 75
WW
- Seti Pir = 400
- Matusmoto Castle = 400
- Topkapi Palace = 550

 

[Hydromancerx]

@ls612

X36 = 130

National Wonders = x3 (390)
World Wonders = x8 (1040)

Christianity
- NONE

Papacy
WW
- The Apostolic Palace = 440
- Aachen Cathedral = 600

Usury
- Toll House = 110
- Gambling Hall = 25
- Foundation = 110
NW
- Mercer's Guild = 400

Crop Rotation
NW
- Butcher's Guild = 400

Agricultural Tools
- Terrace = 50
- Hand Water Pump = 250
- Great Chinapa = 200
NW
- Baker's Guild = 400
- Grocer's Guild = 400
- Victualler's Guild = 400

Heraldry
- Billboards
NW
- Draper's Guild = 400
- Tailor Guild = 400

Since all the guilds are 400 I think I will leave them off the list next time. It should not matter where in the Medieval Era the guild is triggered since they act much the same. And thus should cost the same.

 

[Dancing Hoskuld]

@ls612

Ok I did all those except for Via Appia and Pir-e Naraki. Via Appia is Vokarya's and I don't know where Pir-e Naraki is. DH's maybe?

BTW the Himeji Samurai Castle was in the core and I changed it along with the City Gates and Theater of Dionysus.

Pir-e Naraki is a Zoro religious wonder. I have updated the cost on my stuff and will put it on the SVN along with some other stuff I am doing.

 

[Hydromancerx]

@ls612

X37 = 130

National Wonders = x3 (390)
World Wonders = x8 (1040)

Fundamentalism
WW
- King Richard Crusade = 330
- Hellsmouth Sanctuary = 800
- Alamut = 600

Alchemy
- Alchemist's Lab = 110
- Distillery = 100

Surveying
- Surveyor's Office = 50

Martial Arts
- Training Dojo = 115
- Master Dojo = 200
WW
- Shaolin Temple = 500

Charters
WW
- Scarborough Faire = 600
- Troyes Trade Fair = 600

Guilds
- Guild Hall = 155
- Pub = 200
- Farmer's Market = 275
- Toy Maker = 100
- Mattress Store = 150
- Potter's Workshop = 120
- Basket Maker's Workshop = 120
WW
- Piazza San Marco = 800

Armor Crafting
NONE

 

[Hydromancerx]

@ls612

X38 = 140

National Wonders = x3 (420)
World Wonders = x8 (1120)

Islam
- NONE

Voodoo
- NONE

Invention
- Artesian Well = 110
WW
- Leonardo's Workshop = 720

Optics
- Optometrist = 100
WW
- Marco Polo's Embassy = 770

Architecture
WW
- Leaning Tower of Pisa = 600
- Porcelain Tower = 580
- St Mark's Basilica = 500

Banking
- Bank = 220

Parliaments
- Kings Council = 400 (requires Palace so you basically can only make one)

Paper
- Paper Maker = 30
WW
- University of Sankore = 605

 

[Hydromancerx]

@ls612

X39 = 150

National Wonders = x3 (450)
World Wonders = x8 (1200)

Armored Cavalry
- NONE

Clockworks
- Townclock = 110
- Watchmaker's Shop = 200
WW
- Big Ben = 650

Mountaineering
- Machu Picchu = 500

Commercial Whaling
- Rendering Plant = 125

Stained Glass
- Stained Glass Workshop = 150
WW
- Notre Dame = 605

Perspective
- Castle Garden = 60
WW
- The Sistine Chapel = 660

Cartography
- Cartographer's Workshop = 360 (Note this gives Mobility Promotion for Free)