INES I: Anno Domini

I hate joining stuff like this when its into its 10,000s post... so damn confusing...

I saw the map.

Can I just be the viking... I know what i need to know pretty much... I'll talk with the creator or something...

so damn confused.

and thank you for being so helpful.
 
What is confusing? I will try to explain.

EDIT: Vikings and Brits or Irish or Germans are all untaken.
 
Birdjaguar said:
What is confusing? I will try to explain.

Im not confused on everything... I mean just how the things going. cause, Im to lazy to read the previews.

I get how to set up a country its just that u guys seem so far into it that.. well, what will a new country comin in at the last minute do.

I'm not an idiot.

I just think to what will happen... whole cause and effect stuff u know.

EDIT: So I'm takin the Vikings
 
It can be very confusing when you step into an ongoing game. But you will get over that pretty quickly. As you come in your neighbors will most likley ask you for trade agreements and NAPs (non aggression pacts) of 3 or more turns. Accept them.
 
Imago will most likely cut you some slack as you get going. Your neighborts may try to entice you into other diplomatic deals. I suggest you lay low for your first update and build army or stat strength,
 
Birdjaguar said:
It can be very confusing when you step into an ongoing game. But you will get over that pretty quickly. As you come in your neighbors will most likley ask you for trade agreements and NAPs (non aggression pacts) of 3 or more turns. accept them.

I plan to... I'm pretty familar with stuff... economics and such...

Do I start of with tradable goods or do i have to discover them... and if there are NAPs are there mutual protection pacts and such...

hope im not wasting ur time. Though, usually when I'm on the forum is as slow as :::Insert Insult Here (I already got warnings for such)::: so I'm just burning time but if im wastin urs just say so and I'll stop.
 
BEHIND_THE_MASK said:
I plan to... I'm pretty familar with stuff... economics and such...

Do I start of with tradable goods or do i have to discover them... and if there are NAPs are there mutual protection pacts and such...

hope im not wasting ur time. Though, usually when I'm on the forum is as slow as :::Insert Insult Here (I already got warnings for such)::: so I'm just burning time but if im wastin urs just say so and I'll stop.
My post count should tell you all you need to know about my opinion on wasting time here. ;)

You have tradeable good already and we do have MPPs or any other type of treaty you care to make up. If you want to improve trade you can try by writing a story about walrus tusks or whale oil and maybe Imago will grant you an additional eco point for it.

I suggest you read some of the orders in the "post your orders" thread for some examples of how to do them and what kinds of things people put in them.

EDIT:it is going on 1:00 AM where I am in NM, where are you?
 
Birdjaguar said:
My post copunt should tell you all you need to know about my opinion on wasting time here. ;)

You have tradeable good already and we do have MPPs or any other type of treaty you care to make up. If you want to improve trade you can try by writing a story about walrus tusks or whale oil and maybe Imago will grant you an additional eco point for it.

I suggest you read some of the orders in the "post your orders" thread for some examples of how to do them and what kinds of things people put in them.

ok. thx... now, I'm gonna go at the start page and read through this entire thread (If i get past page one then *GasP* I never expected that... I'll try and get a hold on things and then get back to u later.

EDIT: Its 1:40 A.M over here in Texas... I love Texas... not more then my home in Russia, but... its such good winters here. Now everytime winter comes around I find that i can walk a step with out my legs shattering.
 
BEHIND_THE_MASK said:
ok. thx... now, I'm gonna go at the start page and read through this entire thread (If i get past page one then *GasP* I never expected that... I'll try and get a hold on things and then get back to u later.

Don't bother with the whole thread, just go to the first page and I think post #8 has links to all the updates. Read those or at least the last 3 or 4.
 
@BEHIND_THE_MASK: This is the template to fill out if you want to make a new nation-

Nation: <You fill in>
Player: <You fill in>
Capital: <You fill in>
Economy: 0 (0)
Education: 2, Bronze Age
Army: 5 000
Navy: 10 (unless landlocked)
Culture: 2
Confidence: 2
Leadership: 2
Army and Navy Training: 2 and 2
Great Projects: None
Background: <You fill in now, I might edit later. Will eventually include current government and religion of the nation.>

The last update is on page 50. Nothing else really matters.

However, there is going to be an update later today, so might as well just read that, and join right after, to make things less confusing.
 
161 AD &#8211; 180 AD: Turn 9

Domestic Events


History does not follow the accepted rules of a story. Climaxes build in history, true, and sometimes, those climaxes are satisfied with epic battles and actions, but in other cases they deflate, prove to be only epic in disguise, and, in truth, result in something preordained and obvious from the beginning. But this is not cause to get complacent. For even the doomed can bring others down with them.

The Celtic Empire, victorious on the Italian front, but reeling from revolts from within, puts said revolts down, violently. Propaganda is thrown about wildly, proclaiming that the Celtic people must band together if they are to defeat the Roman menace, and so, for the time being, the Celts are united, again.

(-2 000 Celtic Regulars)

Revolts break out in eastern Lusitania, seemingly fueled by agents from a different land. In any case, while not quite as deadly as some pessimistic Lusitanians feared, the rebels still manage to take a substantial amount of territory, in the name of a &#8216;Third Punic Empire.&#8217; More deadly are the tribal incursions that came afterwards, as Celtiberians frightened by Lusitanian rapid expansion band together, and attack. Lusitania still holds together, but rumors that Lusitania would come to the aid of its Roman ally are proven false, as all troops are needed to maintain the remaining semblance of a nation.

(-5 000 Lusitanian Regulars)

Rome, itself, is in quite an interesting state of affairs, as well. Beset on all sides, and seemingly without allies, the senate rallies its people for what is believed will be the final years of the Mediterranean War&#8230;

(See Military Events)

Aegypt signs the African Alliance with Axum, and the Union of Aden, but then focuses all of its attention on ending Rome.

(See Military Events)

Bachiria, after some troubles, finally manages to disband its skirmishers. The last Merkavot are also decommissioned.

(-6 000 Bachiran Skirmishers, -10 Bachiran Merkavot)

The newly captured lands are annexed in a very confusing processes, as it seems King Negev intended to remove his forces from all non-Jewish territories, only to find out that, due to his people massacring the non-Jewish in the region, all the territories he currently held were majority-Jewish. Missionary efforts into central Arabia are very effective, and more tribes swear allegiance to the Bachiran throne.

Of course, pesky foreigners annoy the Bachirans to no end. On the south Arabian coast, the Bachirans found a third &#8216;contaminated city&#8217; to deal with all the Indians and Axumites who want to trade with them. This city, Sayhut, shows promise to develop into a real trade center, but fails to do as much so far, due to intentional Bachiran neglect.

On the Red Sea coast, the trade war deteriorates, as it seems the Aegyptian government stops caring. That is not to say, however, that it ended without any effect.

(-Mecca as a Bachiran Economic Center, +Jiddah as a Bachiran Economic Center)

In Axum, the Axum Road gets completed substantially ahead of schedule, making that nation all the richer. Attempts to attract Indian intellectuals to the nation are stopped, but Axumite sages predict that, in any case, it will not be long before the new technologies of the Indians spread to Axum, through trade diffusion.

It is a generally prosperous time for the vibrant nation, as expansion is carried out, so that a branch of the Axum Road can end in Port Cush. Aden falls somewhat under Axum&#8217;s cultural sway, as the two nations grow closer together. The generals in Aden, in particular, are becoming quite pro-Axumite, and this is cause for some concern in the Aden government.

(-1 000 Axumite Regulars)

North, we come to the quagmire of relationships that is the modern Middle East. The Persians, intent on finally backing up their threats with force, invade Assyria proper, and, more surprisingly, the Urrians do the same.

(See Military Events)

The Urrians also ask Abdullah of Dilmun to join his nation with theirs, to create a greater empire, but their ambassadors quickly learn that he is long dead. After an embarrassed pause, their ambassadors leave.

In Byzantium, Emperor Demos, annoyed that Athens, Sparta, and Assyria have held out against him for so long, embarks on a new campaign to end them.

(See Military Events)

Between Greater India and Persia, the Birdsheep Pact is signed, which designates spheres of influence for the two nations, and has Persia give up a small strip of land to Greater India, in exchange for compensation. A Mutual Protection Pact is also signed. However, the numerous clauses are quite confusing, and a point of contention between the two nations is the state of Arabia, and whose influence that region falls under.

Persia expands its holdings in accordance to the Birdsheep Pact within the Iranian mountains, but in Arabia, expands rapidly, with the express intent of cutting the Indians off.

(-4 000 Persian Regulars)

Greater India, not quite done with the Indian Wars, nevertheless occupies the Maldives, which goes smoothly. This move also improves communication and trade routes with the far off Zanzibar colony, and consequently insures its survival, at least for the next few years. They also expand their Arabian colonies a very small amount. The newly created Samanya ships promise to enhance India&#8217;s mastery of the seas to a whole new level. A colony at Malacca is created, and a presence on mainland Africa near Zanzibar is established. Attempts at making these two sites into trade centers, however, fail miserably, as the journeys across the Indian Ocean are still too perilous to become commonplace, as of yet. The Samanya may well change that, but they have not done so yet.

(-2 000 Greater Indian Regulars)

On the mainland, Pandya surrenders, in exchange for its people being allowed to set up a nation in exile on Ceylon. Bengal, in exchange for true independence, gives all lands west of the Ganges mouth to Greater India. However, with Greater Indian help, oddly enough, a new capital of Sittwe is founded. The Bengali diehards hope to have a new a bright future in this barbaric region they have been exported to. Against the monolith that is India, Satavahana remains belligerent, but is doomed.

(+Sittwe as a Bengali Economic Center)

(See Military Events)

Massive increases in size to the Greater Indian army and navy effect training levels.

(-1 Greater Indian Army Training, -1 Greater Indian Navy Training)

In China, both the Zhou and the Chu gear up for a final confrontation. The Zhou, seeing the effectiveness of the Chu Horse Demons, hire their own version, from the Mongols, and the Chu, for their part, hire Indian mercenaries, which arrive on the Chu shores from their long voyage barely intact, but nevertheless, already strike fear into the hearts of Zhou commanders.

(-1 000 Greater Indian Regulars)

(See Spotlight)

Meanwhile, untouched by all this chaos, some of the natives on the island of Honshu band together to form the nation of Japan, with its capital at Kyoto. Economic investment in that capital quickly turn it into an economic center, and even now, the greedy eyes of the newly civilized tribes turn to their brethren, on that same island, as possibilities for future expansion.

(+Kyoto as a Japanese Economic Center)

Military Events

In the Mediterranean War, the Celts pull out of Northern Italia, even as no less than two Roman Legions pursue them back across the border. Venice is burned before it can be retaken, but, in short order, the Celts are pushed back across the Rhone.

(-Venice as a Roman Economic Center, -3 000 Celtic Regulars, -1 000 Celtic Warriors of Taranis, -1 000 Roman Legionnaires)

As the Celts burned bridges over the Rhone, and fortified their border with Roman Barcelona, they prepared for an onslaught the likes of which they knew they had never seen.

With most of Rome&#8217;s attention to the north, however, the Aegyptians captured the islands of the Mediterranean, in lighting offensives that destroyed not only any remaining hope of Roman sea trade, but also the resurgent Roman navy.

(-5 000 Roman Legionaries, -11 Roman Ships, 2 Roman Ships to Aegypt, -2 000 Aegyptian Regulars, -2 000 Aegyptian Royal Guards, -10 Aegyptian Ships, -2 Celtic Ships)

Cut off from their North African colonies, and quickly realizing that everything south of Italia was doomed to fall into the hands of the Aegyptians, the Romans concentrated all their anger on the Celtic Empire. The fortified lines at the Rhone and at Barcelona held bravely, for a time, but even the genius leadership of the Celts could not rein in their hordes enough to follow instructions perfectly. The truth of the matter was, the Celtic army, while large, was rabble, and the Roman Legions were well trained. At both Barcelona and the Rhone, the lines broke.

(-4 000 Roman Legionaries, -2 000 Celtic Regulars, -2 000 Celtic Warriors of Taranis)

The Romans flooded into the wooded lands of Gaul, and the Celts fled before them.

To the south, Aegypt&#8217;s dominance of the sea continued. Ignoring the plight of their ally, directly at least, the Aegyptians landed at Carthage and Icosium, took the cities, and incited Punic revolts in the other regions, which wiped out the Roman garrisons in North Africa.

(-6 000 Roman Legionaries, -3 000 Aegyptian Regulars, -2 000 Aegyptian Royal Guard)

And then, even as Roman successes against the Gallics continued unabated, the Aegyptians looked north. They landed at the city of Rome, and, even though the citizens put up a good fight, in the end, they were just no match for the Aegyptian tactics. The city was taken, and the city was burned, as the Aegyptians retreated back to their island holdings.

(-4 000 Roman Legionaries, -2 000 Aegyptian Regulars, -1 000 Aegyptian Royal Guard, -Rome as a Roman Economic Center, -1 Roman Confidence, -1 Roman Culture, -1 Roman Leadership)

At with their capital in ruins, the Romans found that the Celts were stronger then they had expected. The hordes, their legionaries could defeat, but endless terrorist attacks, and strikes at their leaders, both in southern Gaul, and in northern Italia, drained what was left of the Roman fighting spirit. Inflicting heavy casualties on the Celtics, the Romans were nevertheless driven out of Gaul, back across the Rhone, and away from Massala, which was taken by the barbarians, to the remnant of the senate&#8217;s horror.

(-6 000 Roman Legionaries, -5 000 Celtic Regulars, -6 000 Celtic Warriors of Taranis, -1 Roman Leadership, -1 Roman Culture)

And so does stand the Roman Republic, at the year 180 Anno Domini. A hundred and eighty years after they proclaimed themselves to be the greatest power in the world, they stand at the verge of defeat.

East, we come to the Attic War, of Athens and Sparta against Byzantium. Ignoring the lesser nation&#8217;s plea for peace, Emperor Demos continues the war. At the Battle of the Fallen Spears, his fleet destroys the Spartan one, and then, dealing with the Athenian navy became only a matter of time. It took only a few years to reduce the Spartan and Athenian navies to little more than glorified pirates.

(-8 Byzantine Ships, -8 Spartan Ships, -9 Athenian Ships)

Athens was besieged, and finally fell, and Sparta was conquered as well, in short order. Casualties were higher than expected, but now, at least, Byzantium reins unchallenged over Greece.

(-10 000 Byzantine Myrmidons, -6 000 Byzantine Marines, -Athens as an Independent Nation, -Sparta as an Independent Nation)

The Attic War dispensed of, Demos turned the full force against his armies against Assyria. For a time, the Eagle War was a false war, as both sides were told to do little more than hold their positions, but when the Attic War was dispensed of, Byzantines flooded over the Euphrates, in force&#8230;

(-1 000 Byzantine Marines, -2 000 Byzantine Myrmidons, -2 000 Assyrian Skirmishers, -1 000 Assyrian Regulars, -1 000 Assyrian Desert Princes)

And in the south, things looked just as poor for Assyria. Faced against the armies of Persia and Ur, they held to their fortifications for a time, and then their fortifications broke, turning the whole situation into one large rout. The Babylonians, to make things more confusing, reared their heads in rebellion once again, but were crushed by Perso-Urrian forces. The Persian monarch&#8217;s strange insistence not to have his forces cross the Tigris netted the Urrians the best lands.

(-4 000 Assyrian Skirmishers, -1 000 Assyrian Desert Princes, -5 000 Assyrian Regulars, -6 000 Persian Regulars, -7 000 Urrian Regulars, -1 Assyrian Confidence)

Retreating back to their homelands, the weak Assyrians prepared for a final battle against the Byzantines. There was yet another brave struggle at Harran, as David III, the genius king of Assyria, was well aware that if he lost the capital, it was all over, but in the end, his forces were just too demoralized and too spread out to defeat the Byzantines. Harran fell, David III died, and what remained of Assyria collapsed into complete anarchy.

(-Assyria as an Independent Nation, -8 000 Byzantine Myrmidons)

While Assyria might be gone, the squabbles over who gets what regions are expected to take some time.

In India, the Greater Indian Wars conclude expectedly. The Greater Indians steamroll over the isolated Satavahanans.

(-Satavahana as an Independent Nation, -5 000 Greater Indian Regulars)
 
Random Events

Work on the Axum Road progresses faster than expected.

(+1 Axumite Project Progress)

The Japanese people somehow manage to get smarter.

(+1 Japanese Education)

Spotlight: Dynastic Struggle

&#8220;There should have always been one, not two. Two is what caused this madness.&#8221;

-Unknown

Small rebellions pop up in Chu lands, both in the Zhou-occupied regions, and in the lands still under Chu control, oddly enough. The earlier peasants fight to be reunited with their true Emperor, and the latter fight to get rid of high taxes, and for the better conditions the Zhou have promised, if they become hegemon. However, all these rebellions are put down without much of a struggle.

(-2 000 Zhou Regulars, -2 000 Chu Regulars)

In accordance with a deal with the embattled tribal elders of Liang, the Zhou take control of that nation. However, that deal quickly proves to be on paper only, as many of the Liang people have no desire to be annexed, and continue to rebel. Zhou attempts to give the region a level of autonomy only make things worse, at least for the time being, as the Liang warlords are glad to see that the Zhou have bigger problems then them. Resistance is finally quelled by the Zhou, after a struggle, but then, those &#8216;bigger problems&#8217; the Zhou have make things quite annoying, indeed.

(-Liang as an Independent Nation, +5 000 Zhou Regulars, -6 000 Zhou Regulars)

For near twenty thousand Chu-allied Horse Demons trample into Liang, kill the tired Zhou garrisons, and announce the annexation of Liang into the Chu collective. Somewhere, the Zhou Emperor Si slams his head into a desk.

(-1 000 Zhou Regulars, -1 000 Zhou Horse Demons, -2 000 Chu Horse Demons)

The Emperor Si next sends a rather large force of his Horse Demon mercenaries to retake the Chu city of Changdu, and cut off the Chu in the Liang regions. As the region is rather devoid of resistance, the Zhou take it quickly, though the Chu soldiers, afraid of what their Emperor will do to them if they loose, put up a strong fight against the horrible odds.

(-2 000 Chu Regulars, -2 000 Zhou Regulars)

Instead of trying to retake Changdu, to reestablish connections with the former lands of the Liang, the Chu decide to head straight for Lanitan, capital of the Zhou Empire. Of course, the troops they use on this expedition are not native Chinese. They are Indian, with all that entails. The mercenary arms race, begun by the Chu when the Horse Demons were hired, has concluded with the import of thousand of elite Indians, armed with modern weaponry. The battle for Lanitan is concluded by shock value, as the Zhou, having not contacted the Indians themselves, cannot understand what new monsters the Chu have thrown at them.

(-2 000 Zhou Regulars, -2 000 Zhou Teo-Wakan Warriors, -4 000 Greater Indian Regulars)

From the fall of Lanitan, Emperor Si escapes to the north, to continue the fight anew, but the spirit of the Zhou people weakens.

(-1 Zhou Confidence)

A Zhou attack on Koryo is called off, as their armies head to Lanitan to take it back. A substantial number of forces occupying Changdu are diverted, as well, and the Chu, for their part, send ten thousand Horse Demons, to help the Indians.

The Second Battle for the Heartlands rages for quite some time, as the Indians, to their surprise, learn that the Zhou are actually better trained then they are. There are actually very few Chu present here, as the Indians take command of the Horse Demons, and utilize them to the best of their ability. In the end, the &#8216;Chu&#8217; position proves unable to be held, and the Horse Demons and the Indians retreat back to the recaptured Chu capital of Ying, but large swaths of Zhou heartland have been burned to the ground.

(-6 000 Zhou Horse Demons, -5 000 Zhou Teo-Wakan Warriors, -1 000 Zhou Regulars, -3 000 Greater Indian Regulars, -7 000 Chu Horse Demons, -Lanitan as a Zhou Economic Center, -Feng as a Zhou Economic Center)

Peripheral conflicts, however, go quite well for the Zhou. A blockade of the Chu coast is enforced, and Taiwan, ignored by Chu, is reestablished as Wu Taiwan by General Zhao, as no longer can Chu supplies get to the embattled government.

(-Kingdom of Taiwan as an Independent Nation, + Wu Taiwan as an Independent Nation, -4 Chu Ships, -6 Zhou Ships)

The Nan rebels, despite being supplied by the Zhou, finally fall, but they put up a strong fight.

(-3 000 Chu Regulars, -4 000 Nan Regulars)

Continual Koryo attacks on Jiaoli are defeated, one after another.

(-2 000 Zhou Regulars, -4 000 Koryo Regulars)

And so pass another twenty years of the Stick War. Both sides can claim victory, as Zhou have cut off the Chu at Liang, succeeded in yet another incursion, defeated the attackers of their capital, and enforced a blockade, but the Chu have burned down much of the Zhou heartland, and seem to have an endless number of tricks to pull off. The next couple decades, it has been predicted, will decide it all.

NPC Diplomacy

To: World
From: Various Rebels in Punic Lusitania and North Africa calling themselves the &#8216;Third Punic Empire&#8217;


Recognize us!

To: Zhou
From: Wu Taiwan


We stand ready to aid you.
 
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OOC

Stats done. Other first page stuff will be done in a while, hopefully. I know that update was bad, and don't anyone try to tell me otherwise.

The mighty Rome humbled, in two turns. :) *glances over at alex, who he knows is lurking*

carmen510, where are you?

When should the BT be, people?

Oh, and one more thing. If you people want the extras on the first page done any time soon, could the more bored among you write them for me? I'm getting rather busy, of late.
 
/dances
/jumps for joy
Imago, you're my new best friend. I don't even care that I don't have an army anymore :D hehe

FROM: Byzantium
TO: Ur, Persia, other assorted allies


Well done, all. We lay claim to the western-most EC in the unclaimed lands (the one on the river) and we will look no further east. The manner in which the rest of Assyria is divided is up to your most noble leaders to decide.
 
Nice update. :thumbsup: Any results from India's contacts with the Tibetans and Huns?
 
Your ambasadors were eaten, or something. Although, there are reports that the Tibetans are going to form their own nation, quite soon.
 
Imago said:
Your ambasadors were eaten, or something. Although, there are reports that the Tibetans are going to form their own nation, quite soon.
Ahh the Yeti I suppose.
 
So there are 2000 Indian mercenaries left in China right?

Can I speed up my project completion?

EDIT: Did I make diplomatic contact with these nations through my agents: Zhou, Korea, Cambodia?
 
Okay, good update. Although somehow I don't see much progress into Central Arabia on the map... :p
 
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