Intra-Rival Dynamics (Diplomacy Ramifications?)

[General_W]

Ok – I got the green light (with some restraints) from Rik Meleet.

Before I give the summary, here are the ground rules he gave me for us all to follow:
Team MIA has so far avoided doing anything stupid with all this… let's keep it that way!
(We rule!)

From Rik:

If you want to post a (shortish) summary of what happened with the intent to analyse the relations between teams or teammembers for the benefit of your team, in-game, and you succeed in avoiding singling out members and if you succeed in keeping it decent and "civilised" you get my ok.
So instead of posting "Member XXX called member YYY an <unpleasant name>" you post it as "Member XXX and member YYY started namecalling".

You have to realise that you are moving yourself onto slippery ice. I will watch the thread you post it in and any uncivilised comments will be dealt with. It may be wise, if you do decide to post the summary, to make it clear to your teammembers that I will not tolerate posts which are against the forum-rules.

So, without further ado – here's a short summary of what happened (for anyone that missed it) To avoid singeling anyone out – I'll just refer to teams. (As the interaction between teams is really what is of interest to us anyway)

Representatives from TNT first raised a complaint that team Doughnut was late, and implied that this was becoming a habit, and they should face penalties.

Members from KISS came to Doughnut's defense, suggested that the KISS and Doughnut teams had the high road, and tried to turn things around onto TNT.

TNT then fired back, apparently unhappy with KISS standing up for Doughnut.

Doughnut eventually weighed in to defend itself (and send the turn)

There were other mostly minor skirmishes – but they mostly break down along TNT vs. KISS & Doughnut.

Obviously – this has (I believe) some important diplomatic ramifications. (beyond who was right or wrong or anything else!)

How should/can we use this information? Are we facing some "alliances of personality" allready? Or was this just an abberation - soon to be forgotten?

Looking forward to discussion!

(Mods: Please let me know if you are uncomfortable with any of this, and I'll remove any offending details. Thank you!)

 

[Rik Meleet]

(..)(Mods: Please let me know if you are uncomfortable with any of this, and I'll remove any offending details. Thank you!)

It's a good summary.

 

[Rambuchan]

If they're going to turn around and stick each other like this in the game then we've got it made!

Us not being a part of any of that is perfect for the gameplan we seem to be slowly agreeing on.

EDIT: It seems that TNT could well get this game's 'fart in the space suit' award for popularity, and we should nail them if it seems to be turning out that way.

 

[classical_hero]

It seems that Provolution has a problem. Al teast we have remained neutral in all this so we should come out smelling roses. I think he might be a bit upset that his team got a warning for slow turn around and wants that to happen to every team. These are just my thoughts. Fe3333au's description of those events was very funny.

Perhaps those teams need to settle the score the old fashioned way. We get them into a colosseum and the winner will be the one who is stil alive.

 

[fe3333au]

I had great fun recreating an incharacter description of the events ... the fanfare players were actually IMMHO (in my modest and humble opinion) the scene that tickled me the most ... I hope we meet Hans and his fellow alpenhorners again ...

Anyway firstly thankyou Rik (the mod NOT the diety) for allowing this discussion ...

You may or may not know that another thread has opened recently ... called Official Complaints ... and if you read the thread many of our fellow players are starting to ridge up each time a certain explosive protagonist opens his mouth ... I see this happening even before words are uttered ... the cringe ripple spreads throughout the reading game populous at the meerest sight of his avatar ... for your information this thread was shutdown because of

Any complaints to the game admins should be put to them (or to the rest of the participants) in a civilized and polite manner. I strongly suggest that everyone realises that bickering or impolite posts may lead to bans.

Classical_Hero is absolutely correct in the origins of this tiff ... I can see a good point about 24 hours although being restrictive, is a rule set in stone ... I am a bit of a rule questioner myself ... but diplomacy he has none ... and i fear that he has reached a point which is detrimental to his team ... who are a little too silent on the issue

I have had interaction with him ... and was expecting attack ... it came not ... and have come to the conclusion that he is beginning to get treated unfairly ... however many things are interpreted by the style one writes in a thread ... and the constant pompous whine factor doesn't help building bridges ...

Bottom line is that the rumours of the leadership of TNT have spread far and wide across the vast expance of this paradise of a world ... and the whispers speak of the existence of a little loved nation that believe strongly in their own greatness and self importance ... and will promote this whenever and wherever the opportunity arises ... I pity the staff of Embassy TNT ... I would strongly support double pay and many perks for them

In summary, I would therefore suggest that any potential conflict scenario would be supported or at least strongly cheered on by all other teams


If this team is to gain any goodwill from the rest of the game ... my advice would be to get another spokesvoice ...

 

[classical_hero]

Technically Provolution is not the spokesman for the team, Vbraun is. Al he is, is the team President. Perhaps they need to have a coup if this behaviour continues. While we really should not be talking about other teams leadership, it is starting to become wearisome with the antics of Provolution. He attacked me when I was made a simple request of how other teams are to view the warning to TNT for late playing of the game, but he took it as an attack on him. I wish he would not take the game so seriously.

 

[fe3333au]

Agreed and on a personal level I have (representing myself) communicated this to the administrators ... a number of days ago ...

 

[peter grimes]

If were are to actually profit from an in-game conflct resulting from these happenings we must take measures to ensure that it is not a zero-sum conflict. We can't afford to have one opponent grow at the expense of the other. The only way for us to profit is for BOTH of them to suffer from their aggression. If one grow as the other weakens, we also are weakened in a relative way.

 

[Meleager]

I dont know if I feel comfortable analysing another teams antics for our gain (never make a good analysis).

Are we reffering to the first (now delleted debate) or the most recent (and still visible one), or both? For your info I wrote an account of this (the 2nd one) in graffiti and then deleted it just to be safe (even though it is far more nutral then the comments in this here post).