IOT Developmental Thread

For a map with a huge number of territories like EoJ, I think it would be perfectly fine just having 'rough' terrain be listed. Honestly, simply labeling terrain regular, rough and harsh (or whatever) would be more simple for both the GM and the player, especially if terrain type only affects combat.
 
Hello there sexy fellow GMs.

How do you determine what type of terrains you'll use on a map or in battle calculations? I want to add terrain to the map I'm using, and I know how I want to do, but I don't know how to go about determining which provinces should get what terrain. At the moment, I'm thinking maybe I should only add "extreme" terrains such as mountains, jungles, etc instead of attempting to give each province a terrain.

Thoughts?

I don't think I've done terrain since my very first game.
 
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The Mechanics of Imperium Offtopicum XIX

Spoiler :
Note: Later in this post I will be talking about issues that occurred during IOTXIV. By this I mean issues intrinsic to the game and the system it operated on rather than any particular issues relating to that game.
I will add that you will fully be able to use espionage to determine how dedicated rebels are to their cause and they will not necessarily lay down their arms if they lose the backing of the international community. If you don't like that fact, don't join the game.


I've played around now for about half a year with lots of different ideas about what mechanics I would use in my next game. Many of you have seen the earlier spreadhseets that I designed for a stats heavy game. However as time went on I came to the realisation that that wasn't the kind of game that I would like to run.

All of my other games in the past that have had success have been quite free form allowing the players to inhabit the world in whatever way they please. I'd like to think that this is the kind of game that I'm good at running, one where the GM is there to help build the world with events reacting to the choices of the players rather than one where the GM is there to tell they players how much economic income they have.

But I feel it is important to say why I veered away from this kind of game at the being of development. One of the key issues in XIV was the total lack of limits. If Math comes along and says he built 40 aircraft carries than I guess he did because there's nothing to say he didn't. What I really don't want to do is to reduce the options of players and in this new system I have devised there is just as much freedom in orders. The only difference is that players will now have to face the economic consequences of their actions and if they are building massively big things with no regard for the cost then it will come back to get them later. With this new system i want players to think in the long term as well as the short term and ensure they have to be responsible about their nation - not dragging it into wars just for banter.

So here's the plan:

As in my last game turns will each consist of a quarter of the year at the end of each turn I post an update on what happened that turn. These updates will take place once every week.

Each in game year each player will submit their budget (orders) in which they lay out their long term plan for the next year. In the other three turns a year they are unable to deviate from this plan other than by instituting emergency cuts or wartime spending.

A player's budget will contain several important policies such as social spending, expansion policy and military spending. The player outlines these in words, no numbers are really going to be necessary in orders due to the lack of "hard" stats. This budget will also contain an special projects or general other policies the player wishes to implement as in orders in any game.

In the update each policy is assigned a cost when combined with government income this gives a surplus or deficit with then goes on to affect each player's debt. The more debt and higher interest rates can lead to economic collapse but in general this will give players the freedom to do whatever they like as was in my last game.

Now you may be wondering what is going on in the other turns. Well that is where UNGM Thorvald comes in. He will be in charge of running the UN. Votes will be made and resolutions passed and its my intention that this is going to forma major part of gameplay. I'll discuss further with Thorvald if we're going to have this in another thread, a social group or in the same thread.


So if you're wondering how this will play out compared to my last game the short of it is that it will be almost exactly the same apart from with a few extra check and balances on player spending and the UN is going to take a more centre stage as the focus of the game is likely going to be leaning towards diplomacy over warfare.

Look out for it later this month!
 
One of the key issues in XIV was the total lack of limits. If Math comes along and says he built 40 aircraft carries than I guess he did because there's nothing to say he didn't.

well, lets see... theres plenty of reasons why i could not simply build 40 aircraft carriers.

1. no nation can support 40 aircraft carriers. its just too expensive. everyone knows this, and will call me out on it.

2. it implies that there is *only* 40 carriers, with no mention of a Carrier Battlegroup. its like having only infantry without tanks or artillery: possible but hilariously suboptimial. maybe you can have the Carrier battlegroup implied, but that just makes it worse.

3. i am not that bad. in a game, i had three at the start, but quietly dialed it down to one, and even then, one is pushing it as "Turkey".

4. the limits are essentially defined by how prosperous the base nation is, the existing military funding it could easily sustain (my rule: never more than 10% of GDP), and how skilled the person is at RPing things that clearly don't exist.

for example, you can have the fighters from starfox, only if you mention that the weapons are extremely shortranged, and the bombs there are also shortranged.

the fact that modern jet fighters have a long range of missles and the like, the fighter would be lucky to get in range in the first place. not to mention the AA of all kinds and so on.

it also doesn't appear to be particularly speedy.

sorry, but i had to prove a point that there are limits, and other people, including the GM can easily enforce it if they had to.
 
Sorry Math that was more of a joke referenced at your love of aircraft carries rather than any actually meaningful comment about number of ships that could be supported.
 
GordIOT v1.0
Alright you miserable wee donkey, welcome to GordIOT! This is an IOT all about running your own restaurant and trying to be the very best while avoiding the wrath of everyone's favorite angry British food critic, Gordon Ramsay. Taking inspiration from the series Kitchen Nightmares, MasterChef, any restaurant simulator, and the Roll To Dodge series, the premise is as follows: you will be able to create and customize your own restaurant, and will be given points at the beginning of each turn to put into specific variables based around your restaurant. At the end of each turn, rolls will be made, which can be affected by how you spend your points, and the player who comes out with the worst rolls will be eliminated from the game.

Signup:
Name:
Restaurant Name:
Restaurant Style: (ex. Italian, German, Seafood, etc)
Signature Dish: (preferably fits with restaurant style)

Congrats panini head, you've made a signup post. You might be wondering, "well Gordon, what now?" Here's a few pointers as to what you might want to do next since you don't seem capable of making toast let alone running a bloody restaurant. Below you'll see five categories:
1. Food quality (1-20, 1 being straight outta the dumpster garbage, and 20 being the best damn food Gordon could grace his presence upon)
2. Appearance (1-20, 1 being not much more than a crack house, and 20 being a palace of a restaurant)
3. Advertising (1-10, 1 being simply word of mouth, 10 being billboards and bus signs.)
4. Menu/restaurant size (1-20, 1 being a 2 table shack that just serves burgers and 20 being a national chain with everything under the sun served.)
5. Price (1-10, 1 being fast food dollar menu and 10 being saffron and caviar infused Kobe beef.)

"Well Gordon those are nice, but what do they mean to me?" Listen up, you yankee doodle dung, because I'm going to tell you. At the beginning of the game, you are awarded 10 points based solely on the generosity of my goodwill. Everyone of your stats starts at 1 as you are all disgraces, and you are able to spend points in categories to improve your sad sack of a business. After the first turn, you get 5 points plus a point for every restaurant that has been eliminated at the beginning of the turn. Subsequently, RP can grant points. Based on the quality and quantity of the RP, a player may gain up to 50% of their base point income.

How Scoring/Elimination Works:

Each round, a roll is performed for each stat. Each player is awarded a score based on these rolls, and the player with the lowest score is eliminated in a harsh, Ramsay-esque fashion. The roll is subtracted from the overall score value you have, and the resultant total is calculated. Each round a restaurant may randomly be chosen to receive a +1 stat boost to all elements.

Example of a turn:

Player Name
Food Quality
Appearance
Advertising
Size
Price
Wouter
10
10
5
10
5
Megan
20
20
10
20
10
Tolni
1
1
1
1
1
Rolls for this round:
Food Quality: 9
Appearance: 1
Advertizing: 5
Size: 12
Price: 9
Scores:
Wouter: 4
Megan: 44
Tolni: -31
Based on this hypothetical turn's scores, Tolni would be eliminated from this round.

More to come later, stay tuned
 
Sign ups for the new game by myself and Thorvald have opened up!

Find it here
 
I am new here btw

This new one-- IOT XIX-- seems awfully similar to Empires of Joy, and while I very much am interested in the premise of both-- as well as with, for example, Blackened Skies, or Arcanum-- the stats are too complex for my small brain.
Will this one deal with the math stuff in the same way as EoJ does, or will it be a bit more accessible for a dummy like me
 
the numbered/main IOTs are notable for being much more simple than other games
 
I am new here btw

This new one-- IOT XIX-- seems awfully similar to Empires of Joy, and while I very much am interested in the premise of both-- as well as with, for example, Blackened Skies, or Arcanum-- the stats are too complex for my small brain.
Will this one deal with the math stuff in the same way as EoJ does, or will it be a bit more accessible for a dummy like me

the numbered IOT's are simpler in comparison to most other IOTs. there are stats and stuff, but if i could keep up with them, surely you can, as well.

after all, the stats came to being because of me. :P
 
Lovely. Expect an application as soon as I can get on a computer where I can see the provinces, then
 
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“Who among us deserves better?”
Secretary General Enyinnaya Oluwaseyi on the Vereor Sol project during one of the last meetings of the United Nations.


Setting and General Game Information
Hello, all. Yet again, your favorite moderator is trying to GM an IOT against his better judgement! I’ll cut right to the chase. In this game you will be taking the role as a leader of the first human expedition to another world. And also, very likely the last that will ever come from the homeworld. War, strife, and too many other events to summarize in a measly introductory paragraph has lead to this likely being the last chance for humanity’s survival.

However, the Vereor Sol project was not intended for one ship. Many were sent to this world — Osiris — in hopes that if even one makes it, humanity could be redeemed.

All the colony ships had escaped the gravitational influence of the Solar System around 2127. The history of the world from our actual timeline to this point is entirely up to you players, at my own discretion though. The world wasn’t completely desolate when you left, but it was in the direst of straits — such that a significant amount of countries followed suit with the Vereor Sol project, even if they had left the UN or were in active conflict with it.

Welcome to Osiris
Osiris is an earth-like world orbiting a star several dozen light-years away from the Solar System. Using a variety of propulsion methods in conjunction with cryogenically freezing the colonists, the colony ships reached their destination within 200-400 years. Very little is known about the biosphere or the chemical composition of the planet, but given you all would have landed and begun setting up your colonies by the start, you can assume the atmosphere is livable with very little life support required to maintain the population.

Because of the strenuous journey, none of the colony ships were installed with any significantly advanced facilities or databases. Several of the modern technological discoveries will have to be reacquired through research.

Joining
Polity name: Should be self-explanatory
Leader name: The name of your leader.
Leader trait: pick one, see rules
Society Theory: pick two-three, see rules
Government Theory: pick one, see rules
Economic Theory: pick one, see rules
Background: Your polity’s origin/mission/whatever. This will determine your polity’s basic starting technology(everyone gets one), so make sure to give ample detail.

Actual Rules
Spoiler :
Osiris - Zones and Territories
Players will be somewhat uniquely interacting with the planetary map of Osiris. Osiris has been organized into various zones. Each of these zones will have stats that tell you more or less what is in them — from resources, to potential dangers. However, Zones will be almost entirely unexplored when you arrive, so you will only have vague information about each one — even the zone you start in. You will have to train exploration units and send them on exploration expeditions. View the Exploration section for more information.

The primary tool to interact with zones are cities. Cities are where most of your resources will be physically located and will be the primary indicator of your control of an area. For more details on cities, view the Cities and Buildings section.

Inside Zones are better-known game tools known as provinces (called territories in this game). These are smaller than zones, and what is in them is more specific. Each territory can fit one structure, discounting cities, and has unique defensive bonuses or penalties. You can truly only know what is in a specific territory by exploring it.

Now that you have the run-down, I’ll be more specific. Each zone will have a naturally-occurring allotment of resources, such as minerals or food. Each controlled territory adds to how much of these naturally-occurring resources you will obtain. If you control all the territories in a zone, you will receive 100% of the resources. However, some territories might have something special hiding within it. You will need to control that specific territory in order to use that special thing. Special things you discover will be marked on the Zone Map in the territory it was discovered in. This will be the same map in which defensive bonuses/penalties are stored.

The Economy
Each polity will have to have a functioning economy, no matter how it works. However, each economy can be boiled down to the access of three things: Food, Energy, and Minerals.

Food is an absolute necessity for the continuation of humanity, this should go without saying. Each Pop(see Population) requires a fixed amount of food, and in order for your population to grow, you need even more food.

Energy is required for advanced civilization-building. A standard farm might not require energy, but a mass production facility sure would. You can kind of think of energy like a currency. Buildings and units might require it as upkeep or even as material in some cases.

Minerals are literally the bedrock of your society. Also what everything else is made up of too. You require minerals to actually construct buildings and the tools your units will use to combat the land and other polities.

As discussed above, Zones have a natural limit to how much of these three resources they have. However, more resources can be obtained by constructing various buildings. See Cities and Buildings for details.

Population
Population is very important in this game. Population is abstracted into Pops, based heavily on Stellaris’s Pops if you’re familiar. The jist of it is that population flock to cities, but they also branch out. Each Pop expands your control of a Zone outside your city by one bordering territory. In essence, your population dictates how much of a Zone’s total resource pool you take in. However, the amount of food required to grow a Pop increases with each subsequent Pop; a Zone’s natural food supply may not be enough to sustain a large population.

Each Pop is also somewhat unique. Each Pop has its own set of Societal ethics, largely based on that of the Pops it came from. Your first Pop will follow your Societal Theories to the T, but subsequent Pops may begin to acquire other values based on your stability. Or, if you conquer another city, the entire population may have a completely different set of ethics. Given good stability, they can be integrated into your society eventually. However, if your polity isn’t in good favor, your society may be the one at risk.

Cities and Buildings
So we’ve already talked a lot about cities several times now, but let’s get all your questions cleared up here. So, cities are population centers, resource centers, and more or less where everything gets done. It is then only natural that the vast majority of buildings will only be able to be built in cities. The buildings built in cities will mostly affect the zone in which the city resides in, with a few exceptions. Meanwhile, the few buildings you build in territories will affect just that territory; usually, this will take the shape of a defensive structure or a facility to collect a special material in that territory.


Leadership
Every entity needs its leaders, and a human colony on another world is no different.

Each polity has a “leader pool” which dictates the number of leaders they can use effectively. This number is at a base of 2. The leader pool is increased by pop number and technological development. Also, certain theories allow for more leaders.

When you hire a leader, they are given a random trait from the trait list, which can be good or bad depending. The likelihood of a good trait depends on RNG and your stability. You may hire as many leaders as you want at any time, but cannot hire more leaders than your pool can support. You can fire any amount of your current leaders (except your polity leader) and look for new ones, as well.

In order to make use of a leader, you must assign them a position. Positions include:
Governor: Runs a specific city. Cities with governors are much more efficient than cities without, especially when they get large.
General: Leads an army. An army without a general is nothing more than a mob set in a general direction with very little capacity for tactical combat.
Admiral: Leads a navy. Same as an army, but on water.
Explorer: Leads an exploration unit. Not necessary, but increases the likelihood of good finds.
Researcher: Leads research. Researching is generally more effective and breakthroughs are more common.
Spy: Conducts Espionage.

For the first turn only, I will roll leaders to your maximum capacity out for you to assign. Do not expect me to roll new leaders automatically when one dies or your capacity increases.

Society Theory
All societies are founded on principles — what these principles are is for you to decide, and to try to stick with.

Society Theory is basically how it is accepted for people to behave in your society. Society theories can manifest in three ways. A First Order society theory is core to your people’s identities. A Second Order theory is one that is right underneath what is core, something that is heavily encouraged but something your society could, if given precedent, can go on without. A Third Order theory is one that is accepted and generally encouraged, but a foreigner won’t be hated for specifically not sharing in this theory, as they might be if it was First Order.

To begin with, there are 8 Society theories to choose from. You must choose at least one, and one of your chosen theories will be a First Order theory. You can choose up to three; if you choose more than one, at least one of the chosen theories need to be a Third Order theory.

Conflicting social theories are not compatible.

Theory of Cooperation: Slaves are tolerated. Reduces food required by Pop by 5%.
Theory of Determination: Slaves are frowned upon. Increases energy production by 5%.
Theory of Toleration: Other Social Theories are tolerated. War stability is decreased by 5%.
Theory of Exclusion: Other Social Theories are frowned upon. War stability is increased by 5%.
Theory of Mind: Pop is more likely to change societal ethics. Increases all research by 5%.(will never lose Theory of Mind)
Theory of Soul: Pop is less likely to change societal ethics. Decreases all research by 5%
Theory of Leadership: +5% stability, increases mineral production by 5%.
Theory of Land: -5% stability, increases food production by 10%.

These are all very basic and barebones theories. As you develop, more advanced theories will become unlocked. You can only change Society Theory if a significant portion of your population has one you lack or if you unlock a new one. Generally, your populace will follow suit with the theories of the state when stability is positive. Nasty things can happen if there are significant differences between the ethics of your citizenry and that of your government.

Government Theory
Humans are social creatures, and hierarchies are bound to form. Government theory is just what you think it is: how you conduct your government. There are three to choose from to begin with.

Democracy: A leader was voted on before you left Earth. This leader will be there until they die, when the next leader will be voted on. +5% stability, +1 leader pool size.

Oligarchy: A handful of individuals were chosen using various criteria to form the head of society. The next leader will be chosen from the leader pool. +5% energy and mineral production.

Autocracy: A leader was chosen to be the absolute ruler before leaving Earth. The leader will be there until they die, when the person they had selected will take the mantle. Can choose successor, +5% slave mineral and food production.

Like with Society theory, these are very barebones government types, inadequate for advanced societies. Again like society, you can eventually develop more advanced government forms. When you change government forms, you will suffer a stability penalty depending on how different the new form of government is. Switching from one of the three broad archetypes (democracy, oligarchy, and autocracy) will incur the harshest penalties; reforming into a more advanced form of the archetype you are in will incur the least.

Economic Theory
The economy must be managed somehow in order for the colony to grow. This forms the basis of economic theory. There are three economic theories to choose from.

Monetary Economy
Goods and services are paid for by a currency guaranteed by the state. This system is summarized by high highs and low lows, experiencing bonuses and drawbacks in kind. This basic understanding of monetization is unstable, meaning market changes could be somewhat dramatic on the economy. However, the sense of individuality arising from determining what one does with their resources is assuring. +10% energy and mineral bonus maximum, -5% energy and mineral penalty maximum. +5% stability when economy is not contracting.

Manpower Economy
The expansion of the population is the priority for colonization, and that is the goal of the Manpower Economy. The government organizes the people to work in various tasks in order to achieve economic expansion. -10% slave Pop food requirement, each Slave Pop increases food and mineral production by 2.5%, -5% stability.

Resource Economy
Resources must be efficiently allocated to ensure the planet serves its purpose in the best way possible. In this, the government organizes a small, specialized population in order to achieve higher technological progress, making the resources they use have more meaning. +15% Pop growth requirement, +25% bonus to all research.

Economic theories do evolve over time like the others, but their evolution is much more natural. As you unlock key discoveries and develop your society, your economic system will slowly develop alongside it, involving no direct action on your part. However, attempting to change your economic theory to a totally different one would be very difficult. You can expect your economic archetype to be permanent unless something truly revolutionary changes in your nation.

Exploration
Exploration is a key part of the game in the beginning. As you explore, you will gain a better understanding of the resources at your disposal and indeed of Osiris itself.

All players will start with an exploration unit to start with. And exploration unit can look like essentially however you want, but they will all be weak fighters compared to dedicated military personnel. Each explorer unit can explore 3 territories per turn.

Again for the sake of simplicity, all players will be able to see what they find. This isn&#8217;t really realistic, but I can&#8217;t accurately simulate &#8220;fog of war&#8221; mechanics on a text-based forum game. I apologize for that :<.

If an explorer finds !!something special!! You can use that explorer to create a !!special facility!!. The explorer unit will be consumed, and if you had a leader attached to it, they will be open for another duty. If you wish to do more exploring, you would have to create a new explorer unit.

Research and Technology
This game will run on a &#8220;research card&#8221; system similar to Stellaris. Each player will receive a number of possible research projects and must choose one to commit to. For my own sake, everyone will see what you have available to research, but what you actually choose will be known only to you and I.

Another layer to think about is that there are essentially four overarching research paths.

Bio-Integration is the theoretical unification of Humanity with the biosphere of Osiris, genetically changing humanity to be one with its new home. Bio-Integration cards will be marked green.

Techno-Integration is the theoretical singularity between man and machine, enhancing themselves beyond that of humanity and Osiris itself. Techno-Integration cards will be marked blue.

Purity is the theory of Humans remaining pure, focusing on shaping Osiris into something more Earth-like than it is instead of changing the human condition. Purity cards will be marked red.

Finally, and most boringly, is General Studies. General studies do not focus on any of the above theories, and are instead more in line with research for the sake of research and advancement in a more broad sense. For example, the secret to nuclear fusion would likely be here, as it has no bearing on any of the other fields. Many of the earliest technologies will be these kinds, as the other three will be in their infancy.

In addition, there are rare research cards that are an amalgamation of the three partisan paths. These cards will generally be expensive, but quite powerful and potentially revolutionary.

So now you know about research, but how do you actually commit?

In addition to the economic resources, your polity will generate research points. Each research card will cost a certain amount of these points; when you have enough points, they will be spent on the chosen research card. Your polity will immediately gain the effects of the technology and you may then select a new research project. How much research points you gain per turn depends on several things, including population, &#8220;special things&#8221; your explorers find, and sometimes luck.

Military: Armies and Navies
The military is split broadly between two branches, the Army and the Navy. There are air forces, but for the purposes of this game they will be integrated into each of the two branches.

An army is a composition of units, but they are somewhat abstracted in this game. I kind of shamelessly stole the model from Crezth. Ha.
An army is summarized by the following stats:
Mass: The number of boots on the ground. Think of it like health. Each point of Mass equates about 5000 soldiers and increases the cost of the army by 1 mineral.
Firepower: Heavy weapons focus. This is your army&#8217;s attack power. Each point of firepower means more anti-armor rounds, more artillery, and other things of that nature and increases the cost of the army by 10 minerals.
Movement: How effective your army is at moving. Think wheels and motors to begin with. Every 2 points of movement increases how many territories this army can travel in one turn by 1. Note that all armies start with the capability to travel to one territory a turn. Each point of movement increases the cost of the army by 5 minerals.
Organization: How organized your army is from the top to the bottom. Think radios and chain of command. Each point in organization decreases terrain penalty by 1%. Every two points of organization increases the number of modules(see below) the army can have by 1. Each point of Organization costs 3 Energy.
Support: Your army&#8217;s defensive capabilities. Think medical capability, support weapons, additional armor. Each point in support decreases enemy damage by 5% and costs 3 minerals. Eventually, Support faces diminishing returns, so you cannot ever block 100% of an enemy army&#8217;s damage.
Discipline: Loyalty of the troops. More of an insurance stat. Makes troops less likely to flee from a battle before the General orders a retreat and less likely to join their general if the general thinks to launch a coup. Each point of Discipline costs 10 Energy.

Every 3 points an Army has in total increases the upkeep of that army by 1 Energy, and have a minimum upkeep of 1 Energy. The only stat that does not increase the upkeep of an Army is Discipline.

Roughly the same logic as all of this can be applied to navies for our purposes. Differences below:
Mass increases the number of armies a navy can transport by 1 for every 3 in a navy and is more indicative to the size of the ships' hulls.
Movement increases the number of sea territories a navy can cross on a 1:1 ratio.

Under organization, modules were mentioned. Modules are attachments you can apply to a navy or army where applicable. This is where something like air forces would come in, or special ordinances unlocked by technology.

War[font]
War in this game is a bit more strategic than in most IOTs, because units will exist visibly on the map, occupying territory.

At land, only one army may exist in one territory; there is no stacking. At sea however, there can be multiple navies in a single ocean territory.

When armies and navies engage in combat, stats can and will begin to fall as an indication of battle damage and irreplaceable supply use. However, armies and navies can be reinforced by other armies and navies. Mass, Firepower, and Support will stack linearly, but Discipline, Movement, and Organization will average out. Therefore, if you do not wish to dilute your other stats, make sure to not have them significantly lower for a reinforcing army compared to the main army.

Espionage
You can send a leader designated as a Spy to conduct espionage campaigns against your enemies. It&#8217;s simple: allocate Energy to them and give them a task. Depending on the leader and the resources you gave them, they can meet varying degrees of success or failure.


To come when I've finished some intricacies in development.

edit: map teaser https://i.imgur.com/Rch95bW.png
 
I am yes
 
Alpha Centauri/10, would planet bust the Gaians again.
 
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