Iran claims it sent animals into space

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http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/04/world/middleeast/04iran.html?src=twt&twt=nytimesworld

PARIS — In what seemed designed as a display of technological advance, Iran said on Wednesday that it had fired a rocket into space carrying living organisms — a rat, two turtles and worms, according to the official broadcaster Press TV.

The test of what was described as the Kavoshgar-3 rocket, capable of carrying satellites, came as Tehran government faced challenges on many fronts.

Iran is preparing to celebrate the 31st anniversary of the Islamic revolution in 1979, but it is locked in dispute with the United States and other powers over its nuclear program, and its leaders are facing the worst political crisis since the revolution in the wake of last June’s flawed presidential elections.

Iran’s missile program has prompted worries among Western analysts that it is working on a weapons delivery system with broad regional consequences. In December, Iran said it test-fired an improved version of its most advanced missile, the Sejil-2, capable of reaching Israel and parts of Europe.

The latest launch came days after officials in Washington said the Obama administration is accelerating the deployment of new defenses against possible Iranian missile attacks in the Persian Gulf, placing special ships off the Iranian coast and antimissile systems in at least four Arab countries.

Press TV said Wednesday that the Kavoshgar, or Explorer, was the third of its type to be launched space since February 2008 and was carrying an experimental capsule to transfer telemetric data, live pictures and other information to Earth. A second Kavoshgar was launched in November 2008, Press TV said. The model launched on Wednesday was described as an updated version of the earlier rockets.

One year ago, Iran said it launched a domestically made telecommunications and research satellite, the Omid, into orbit.

On Wednesday, Press TV said, the Iranian Aerospace Organization said live video transmission from latest launch would “enable further studies on the biological capsule — carrying a rat, two turtles and worms — as it leaves Earth’s atmosphere and enters space.”

Defense Minister Ahmad Vahidi said the space program was specifically for peaceful purposes and Iran would not tolerate “any unpeaceful use of space by any country,” the official IRNA news agency said.

State television broadcast what it said were images of the Kavoshgar-3 hurtling from a desert launch pad, leaving a thick vapor trail. Before the launch, officials were shown putting what looked like living organisms inside a capsule placed in the rocket.

Also on Wednesday, Iran unveiled another satellite carrier, Simorgh-3, and three new domestically built satellites.

Press TV showed a group of Iranian officials and President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad standing in front of the blue and white Simorgh-3 rocket and quoted the Iranian leader as saying his country had made “miraculous” scientific achievements.

Mr. Ahmadinejad was quoted as saying Iran was prepared for technological cooperation with the rest of the world and that Iran’s science was “just the start” of a new era of development. But, he said, Tehran’s goal was scientific progress, not military confrontation.

Reuters quoted a Press TV broadcast as saying the launch on Wednesday was the first to carry “a living thing.”

“This was a huge breakthrough,” President Ahmadinejad was quoted as saying. “And we hope we can send our own astronauts into space soon.”

After months of unsuccessful diplomatic overtures, the Obama administration is seeking broad international support for sanctions against the Iranian Revolutionary Guards Corps, which Western nations say controls a covert nuclear arms program. Tehran says its nuclear program is for peaceful purposes only.

President Obama, in his State of the Union address, warned of “consequences” if Iran continued to defy United Nations demands to stop manufacturing nuclear fuel. Last Friday, Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton publicly warned China that its opposition to sanctions against Iran was shortsighted.
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What do you think? Should we be worried about it? Or should we believe them in that it's for peaceful purposes?

It seems like they are trying to get Iranians to be proud of their country by launching the rocket; they talk a lot about Iran's "anniversary" and the political turmoil after the elections.
 
This is obvoiusly a lie. Eric Burdon and his bandmates were already out of this world.
 
See? Even Iranian rats and turtles are doing better than NASA under Obama's new directives... :mischief:
To be fair, the turtles could be monitoring the polar ice caps for any non-threatening, overhyped global warming.
 
Even if they did, why should we care? Anyone can seal a living being in a rocket and fire it into space.
 
Even if they did, why should we care? Anyone can seal a living being in a rocket and fire it into space.

Because Iran probably isnt a signatory of the OuterSpace treaty that prohibits nukes being lauched into or used in space?

If you can fit some animals into your payload bay, your not far from carrying a warhead in it.
 
Because Iran probably isnt a signatory of the OuterSpace treaty that prohibits nukes being lauched into or used in space?

If you can fit some animals into your payload bay, your not far from carrying a warhead in it.

I just checked. Signed but not ratified.
 
Because Iran probably isnt a signatory of the OuterSpace treaty that prohibits nukes being lauched into or used in space?

If you can fit some animals into your payload bay, your not far from carrying a warhead in it.

I'm not sure sending animals and nukes is so similar - a nuclear bomb weighes a LOT more than a few worms, and makins bigger and more powerful rockets is much more complex than simply enlarging what you already have.

In any case, a nuke in space is scary, but not nearly as much as one which expodes on earth! The two things which should be worrying about Iran's missile projects are:
1) Weight - most importantly, CAN they carry nukes?
2) Range - Israel, Turkey, Iraq, Gulf states, etc, are already in range. Longer ranges can allow them to hit Europe as well.
 
I'm not sure sending animals and nukes is so similar - a nuclear bomb weighes a LOT more than a few worms, and makins bigger and more powerful rockets is much more complex than simply enlarging what you already have.

In any case, a nuke in space is scary, but not nearly as much as one which expodes on earth! The two things which should be worrying about Iran's missile projects are:
1) Weight - most importantly, CAN they carry nukes?
2) Range - Israel, Turkey, Iraq, Gulf states, etc, are already in range. Longer ranges can allow them to hit Europe as well.

Your weight concern is valid. However, if they can achieve orbit, they can pretty much re-enter anywhere they want, yes?
 
I just checked. Signed but not ratified.

They signed it in 1967. :rolleyes: Needless to say things have changed a bit since then and its entirelly possible that anything pre-Ayatollah Khomeni (sp?) is considered non-binding by the current government anyway.

I dont think we can absolutely trust that the current Government would honor that. Do you?
 
Well, Iran will have to develop better shields for warhead re-entry if it wants long range missiles. The temperatures involved in the atmospheric re-entry of an ICBM warhead are considerable higher than what short range missiles experience.

BTW, unless they actually send a nuke into space, they won't be breaking any treaties.
 
I am jealous of the achievements of this rat, two turtles and bunch of worms.
 
Fractional orbit missiles arent used anywhere at them moment IIRC due to treaty limitations.
 
Well, don't be. You know that joke...

Spoiler :
"Who was the world's first astronaut?"

- Giordano Bruno, unfortunately he burned up on the launchpad.

Haha I wondered whether that post was destined for this thread!
 
I'm reminded of a particular 1961 joke:

- Grandpa, the Russians have flown into outer space!
- What, all of them?
- No, just one.
- :cry:
 
I just checked. Signed but not ratified.

They're a signatory to the NPT, so it's redundant. Additionally, their supreme cleric has issued a fatwa against the development of nuclear weapons. If they're not fundies, then they might be trying to violate the NPT, though. Lots of people think they're fundies, however.
 
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