Iran to issue badges to Jews and Christians

Sh3kel said:
Why yes, because we certainly are a mortal danger to anyone and anything we must not be allowed to hold the only thing that balances the fact we're outnumbered 30:1 by people who explicitly stated they want to kill us!.

It's international politics. When one nation has a supreme advantage over its neighbors in the region, the other nations are naturally not going to be at-ease dealing with the advantaged nation, whether they're friends or not. Someone is going to try to pan out the distribution of power and create an equiliberium.
 
blackheart said:
It's international politics. When one nation has a supreme advantage over its neighbors in the region, the other nations are naturally not going to be at-ease dealing with the advantaged nation, whether they're friends or not. Someone is going to try to pan out the distribution of power and create an equiliberium.

It's fine by me. It's just that little "wipe off the map" thing that makes me nervous.
 
Neomega said:
OK, then where do you figure he got the 30:1 ratio?

I think it is much more, but it is not important. What's more important is: how do you come to conclusion Shekel is making racist statement against muslims?
 
Leha said:
I think it is much more, but it is not important. What's more important is: how do you come to conclusion Shekel is making racist statement against muslims?

YOu think it is much more? Like how much more?
 
Neomega said:
YOu think it is much more? Like how much more?

Let's see

Iran= 70 mln
Saudi Arabia= 15 mln
Palestinians in territories= 3 mln
Syria population= 18 mln.

now let's count countries which attacked us on Yom Kippur war
Some of them have peace agreement with us, but....who knows.

Iraq population= 24 mln
Egypt= 70 mln
Jordan= 5 mln

So...only our close neighbours who represent potential danger count like....205 mln?
 
Pah, this thread is just the tip of the iceberg of propaganda about Iran.

The fact that the US still owes the Iranians a huge dollop of cash in frozen assets is never stated.

Pay up, debtors. Then talk about "international responsibility".
 
CruddyLeper said:
The fact that the US still owes the Iranians a huge dollop of cash in frozen assets is never stated.

Pay up, debtors. Then talk about "international responsibility".

Yeah well, they probably shouldn't have invaded sovereign US territory, then. Consider all of the frozen assets to be the penalty for doing so.
 
VRWCAgent said:
Yeah well, they probably shouldn't have invaded sovereign US territory, then. Consider all of the frozen assets to be the penalty for doing so.

At the time, there was no formal recognition of regime, so it wasn't US territory. You made that deal with the former regime. Regime goes, rules change. You either recognise new regime or accept the consequences of being stiff necked.

You got your hostages back. Where's the cash?

Oh, you appear to have "donated" it all to Israel.

And you wonder why they're so angry with you? A deal's a deal. Pay up or shut up.
 
Doesn't work that way. New governments are obligated to adhere to the agreements that previous governments made.
 
Uh huh. So current US admin is pledged to pay back the money they owe?

It cuts both ways.

US broke these rules first.
 
CruddyLeper said:
Uh huh. So current US admin is pledged to pay back the money they owe?

It cuts both ways.

US broke these rules first.

Sorry, but could someone expaine what money and what Iran did?
 
woody60707 said:
Sorry, but could someone expaine what money and what Iran did?
I believe that Cruddy means Iran-Contra, where US citizens were held hostage and the US had to divert funds used for buying weapons to Iran, rather than to the South American Contra death squads they were financing.
 
No actually I'm referring to the assets frozen by the US admin when the Shah was booted out of power and never given over to the Iranian Islamic Revolutionary govt.

The seizing of the US embassy in Tehran was a direct consequence of that.

You've had the hostages... the cash remains frozen.

So much for international recognition and govt obligations.
 
CruddyLeper said:
Pah, this thread is just the tip of the iceberg of propaganda about Iran.

The fact that the US still owes the Iranians a huge dollop of cash in frozen assets is never stated.

Pay up, debtors. Then talk about "international responsibility".

Huh? Bah, that was just the payment for the embassy they took.:rolleyes:
 
CruddyLeper said:
No actually I'm referring to the assets frozen by the US admin when the Shah was booted out of power and never given over to the Iranian Islamic Revolutionary govt.

The seizing of the US embassy in Tehran was a direct consequence of that.

You've had the hostages... the cash remains frozen.

So much for international recognition and govt obligations.
:lol: This is as hilarious as those Iranian-sponsored full-page ads in the Times, demanding that the United States obey the treaty it signed with Iran in 1955.
 
Yeah, it's embarrassing when propaganda turns out to be garbage.

Both countries have acted in bad faith... but the US acted first and hasn't budged from it's position in 1979. Neither have the Iranians. Hence the tension.

Strange really - Thatcher the Witch agreed with the provisional govt to send in the SAS to clear pro-Shah terrorists out of the London embassy.

I guess we'll do business with anyone, rather than pretending the Shah's line isn't dead.
 
countalorkrin said:
it is good that someone has the right mind to label these abrahms.
once this has been done, i just wish this great greta man that came up with this decision should send them to concentration camps
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