Is a US Border Fence Possible?

[Ecclesiastes]

No, we make a "mouse trap" style obstacle course that they have to get through, but instead of cheese there a greencard at the end of it, you fail, you get beat by men in blue suits with skull masks and electrified batons and microphones that make there voice more controlling(kudos if you can name the reference).

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[Naval Power]

No, we make a "mouse trap" style obstacle course that they have to get through, but instead of cheese there a greencard at the end of it, you fail, you get beat by men in blue suits with skull masks and electrified batons and microphones that make there voice more controlling(kudos if you can name the reference).

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I'm gonna go out on a limb and say HL2 but I'm probably totally wrong

 

[Ecclesiastes]

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say HL2 but I'm probably totally wrong

You got it exactly rite, kudos to ya, those guys would be scary in real life.

 

[Drewcifer]

If the fence is built it will probably end up being built by illegal immigrant labor.

 

[Ecclesiastes]

Or offer citizenship to anyone who wants to come and help build it, the only catch is, no pay just food and cheap tent to sleep in essentially out in the desert.

 

[Elta]

If they want to do it legally, more power to them. Illegally? Nope.

People say that like they would let 300,000 people a year beome citzens ..they won't there's quota.
Even without the quota it is way easyer for people with college education to get in than someone who doesn't

 

[MobBoss]

People say that like they would let 300,000 people a year beome citzens ..they won't there's quota.
Even without the quota it is way easyer for people with college education to get in than someone who doesn't

Why shouldnt we make it easier for educated people to get in? Makes sense to me.

 

[warpus]

What if you guys dug a tunnel along the border and filled it with water and sharks with laser beams on their heads?

Then if any Mexicans get through that - let them get a shot at the American Dream.. It's the Mexican Dream!

 

[Elta]

Why shouldnt we make it easier for educated people to get in? Makes sense to me.

Makes sense to me too.
If these guys were doctors they'd get in in a snap (with visas anyhow) but there broke - hence why they come - I am not advocating it or anything but when you say if "They" want to do it legaly let em but "They" don't have an education thats why they want to come
Poverty in mexico - 50%
% of people in mexico who want to come to the U.S. - 50%
Mexico like all other countrys in the western hemisphere - great place to be if your not in poverty

- I am not supporting illegal immgration I am just saying ....forget give me your tired, poor, hungry ...Give me your PHDs YARRRRR (pirate for added effect)

 

[Bozo Erectus]

'Fence' We're too timid to build 'walls' these days. 'Wall' is too definite, permanent, absolute, black and white. A 'fence' on the other hand is a flimsy, temporary, less certain thing that can be easily taken down and moved at a later time, and therefore less likley to cause offense than a mean old 'wall'.

 

[usarmy18]

Now, I don't really have a position on illegal immigration, and I don't particularly care about anyone elses right now. This is simply a discussion of whether it would even be possible to build a fence to prevent illegals from entering from Mexico. Lets leave the monetary cost out as well. I've seen clips here and there of people scrambling over fences, and others putting them up, but I'm sceptical such a fence would work at all.

It seems to me that with the border the size it is, it would be impossible to use a fence to keep them out, since most fences can be defeated with a good pair of gloves and wire cutters. It's possible the US could post gaurd towers all along the border to accompany a fence, but I don't see the US wanting to project that kind of image.

No a border fence isn't possible unless we militarize the border, which we should do anyways.

 

[spankey]

A triple fence with dirt roads between them over the entire stretch of border will not be cost prohibitive. It is actually relatively easy to do and would be an effective deterrent for the large majority of the volume of people. We do not have Cubans coming over by the 100,000's annually. It wouldn't even be the manpower intensive.

Most of the people who think this is too expensive really don't want to do it for other reasons. If you believe that each country has a right to its own borders and a right to self-determination, then a fence shouldn't be controversial. We cannot set up a sane immigration system until the onrush can be halted.

And by the way, it is more than mexicans coming over. There have been news report of Russians, Poles, Hungarians caught up in Georgia recently who couldn't get emigration papers, so decided to fly to Mexico City and come across the border with everyone else.

 

[tomsnowman123]

I surely hope it's not possible, as it is a complete waste of time and money, just like using the national guard to guard the border.

 

[Turner]

We'll have GDR's before we have a workable US Border fence.

 

[spankey]

Even if the entire fence (triple length, wire on top, roads in between them) cost $1 billion dollars to do, it represents .0385 percent of our 2007 budgeted outlays. It is not cost prohibitive, and nothing probably has the bang for the buck that this has. Reforming Mexico's economy and implementing corruption reforms would cost way more.

The OTM (other than mexican) population getting caught on the border has quadrupled. Remember, we are only catching 10% at best.

edit: continuing thought- there are over 100,000 OTM's crossing over each year. Many from outside of central America

 

[Joeb WK]

Just put up signs saying "Beware Anti-Personal Mines Ahead!" in Spanish of course and prehaps some served limbs nearby for good measure and that would deter most illegals.

 

[EdwardTking]

Reforming Mexico's economy and implementing corruption reforms would cost way more.

But if achievable, that would be in the end profitable.

 

[Masquerouge]

What should be done is gather all the illegal immigrants in the US, and make them build the fence, but make REALLY sure that they're building it from the Mexican side... and wait until they're done

More seriously, I find the idea of a wall/fence despicable. To me this will always be associated with the Berlin wall.

 

[Elta]

what was so bad about the berlin wall?

 

[Masquerouge]

what was so bad about the berlin wall?

It is a sign of failure.