Is global net neutrality NOW really at risk ?
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Maybe it's just my own paranoia, but it seems like my internet is already being throttled. In general things seem to be running slower than they usually do, and I keep getting a lot of "cannot reach the server" errors across typically high bandwidth apps like Steam and various Google services like YouTube. I never had these issues before, and perhaps it could be technical issues, but it seems a little too coincidental that such technical issues would start occurring on the same day the FCC killed net neutrality.
EDIT: Netflix keeps stopping to buffer as well on our smartTV. Never had a problem with that before today as well.
EDIT: Netflix keeps stopping to buffer as well on our smartTV. Never had a problem with that before today as well.
hobbsyoyo
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I already emailed Google Fiber to see what changes they had planned post net neutrality. They said they are not changing anything but I don't believe them.
@Commodore,
The new regulatory repeal doesn't go in effect for 6 months and could very well face injunctions until the court settle the issue.
@Commodore,
The new regulatory repeal doesn't go in effect for 6 months and could very well face injunctions until the court settle the issue.
TheMeInTeam
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My bet is on garden variety poor service in an environment of poor competition. We'll see the net neutrality junk later.
However it's a good example of why you don't want to give these providers additional ability to hose the consumer when they are already handed regional monopolies.
Lexicus
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Of course not. I think it's going to take a while for the players here to understand exactly what all they can do now, and there will probably be a sort of rocky period where they push the envelope to see what they can get away with. But hopefully we have at least a month or two before they start messing with us.
Broken_Erika
Play with me.
The republicans will probably dismiss it as a botnet campaign organized by Hillary, Obama and the Liberal-Media-Commie-Establishment Elite.
sophie
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The decision can still be overturned in Congress, and a couple Democrat legislators have introduced bills doing just that. At the very least it will let everybody know just where each congressperson stands on this issue.
Lexicus
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I have more faith in the legal challenge.
sophie
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Hey, you never know. It only needs to clear 50 votes in the Senate, this is a massively popular issue, and the Republican party is reeling after losing in Alabama.
I mean you're right and this will go nowhere, but at the very least it'll give some excellent ammunition for Democrats come 2018.
Lexicus
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Hope so. I have a feeling that some Republican politicians are going to end up getting murdered when some of the alt-right weirdos who voted for Trump realize that their free internet porn supply is about to be throttled by corporations.
They may actually be telling the truth on this one. After all, Google was probably the largest corporate entity to come out strongly in favor of preserving net neutrality.
TheMeInTeam
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It's not a good idea to trust proven liars.
Tahuti
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Well, as if we can trust him to be credible competitor to Facebook or Google. I mean, he's a total douche who openly supports harsh repression and donated funds to Rita Verdonk, back in the dayz.
I cannot disagree
But there is evil and lesser evil
Come to think of it....
there was a time that citizens put some money together and started their own cooperations
BTW in a time that the average citizen was much more poor than today
It is all choices
Tahuti
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Maar hé, dat is sympathiek!
The problem being of course, is that modern day people are extremely antisocial, as in well-conditioned to the neoliberal mentality. Even among relatively left-wing circles, you can be ridiculed for being a slacker if you refuse to work under wage-slavery.
Ironsided
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While I agree, what are the options today?
Deceiving the groomed consumers that constitutes the public is little more than a nifty marketing slogan away. American prophet Bill Hicks once said: “-…going for the righteous indignation dollar. That’s a big dollar. A lot of people feel that indignation. We’ve done research. Yuge market...”
I would prefer nonsocial above antisocial
But besides that minor
Yes I think the neoliberal way of life is quite convincing even for people that are harmed by it.
But still no reason to give up.
The root issue I see is that in the past 100 years or so, the common wisdom of many is that a system whereby everybody can strive for improvement on an individual base + 1 channel for striving for improvement on the scale size of the country: the democratic vote channeled in a couple of political parties, with a constitution to balance the establishment and the plebs (the many have nots)... the common wisdom is that this should work.
What thereby is overlooked is that this system worked much better when all kinds of self-organisations, based in movements or common self-interest, were still thriving or had a meaningful position of strength.
In the course of time both the establishment as the political parties (even when they were originally rooted in self-organisations/movements) have pushed aside, marginalised, absorbed, these self organisations..... as if they were competitors, or at least annoying complexities..... and with that after a while the spirit, the selfconfidence, to revive them.
That's where "we" are......
Time to change is there I would say
Individual citizens have always been able to unite when the establishment pushed things too far.
Tahuti
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For starters, that alone is enough to encourage (socialist) (self-)organisation if taken its logical consequence. People do not sufficiently think enough for themselves to see the point, yet. They find it 'too difficult'.
I once had a discussion with a roommate about squatting our (student) accomodation to save money. I proposed that we as tenants could potentially decide to refuse to repay the rent collectively and self-organise. His answer was that 'it wasn't worth the hassle'. And he is somewhat right: The owners of the place could have the police sent to our place and have our possessions impounded.
The problem is that citizens can be kept more docile than ever since the Nazi occupation with concentrated ownership and usage of social media, enforced with Scientology-esque tactics by law enforcement and organised crime acting on behalf of big business.
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FriendlyFire
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That was before when they were a smaller company and was worried about being muscled out by the larger corporations building their own search engines or being blocked
Dont worry the US will probably end up like Australia, you will have to pay more for internet access with slower speeds, the cheaper plans have speed limits, speed shapings, and usage limits plus these cheap plans still cost more then what you pay in the US for unlimited. So far no ISP has done internet blocking because the ISP competition is robust, the infrastructure is government owned which keeps the price low.
