Is my justification of eating meat good and valid?

[Narz]

There is no need for any justification for eating meat. We eat meat because it's part of our diet.

Speak for yourself.

 

[nivi]

We eat meat becuase it tastes good and we don't realy care about the animals. Any other justification is just lying to yourself.

 

[Narz]

We eat meat becuase it tastes good and we don't realy care about the animals. Any other justification is just lying to yourself.

nivi tells it like it is.

 

[aneeshm]

There is no need for any justification for eating meat. We eat meat because it's part of our diet.

There is no justification needed for raping women. We rape women because it's part of the way we pass on our genes to give them an advantage.

 

[aneeshm]

We eat meat becuase it tastes good and we don't realy care about the animals. Any other justification is just lying to yourself.

Another honest poster.

In case you're interested, and in case you're Jewish, here's a vegetarian perspective of the Torah.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

Oh but we do care about the animals ... the cute ones that is.

Like I love the argument from the likes of PETA, we shouldn't eat tuna because those poor dolphins also get trapped by the nets. Not a single tought for all those tunafish trapped by the net.

Or we love Knut. One single little lovely icebear, while we couldn't care less that we are ruining the natural enviroment of icebears.

In short. We are all hypocrits. The problem is, we are smart ones.

 

[Tykinruoka]

There is no justification needed for raping women. We rape women because it's part of the way we pass on our genes to give them an advantage.

I'm tired of this rape analogy. Usually it is rape when a man forces a woman into a sexual intercourse againt her will, just for his own pleasure. A male that needs to rape a female to pass on his genes shouldn't pass his genes at all(my opinion, nothing else).

 

[Prince_Imrahil]

There is no justification needed for raping women. We rape women because it's part of the way we pass on our genes to give them an advantage.

I commented in your other thread about how ignorant and stupid your rape analogy is aneeshm, even against CG's weak arguments. Just wanted to repeat how ignorant and stupid it really is.

 

[silver 2039]

Why do we need a justification of eating meat?

We are omnivorous humans we are biologically meant to eat both plants and animals. Eating meat is a natural part of our diet to get the nessecary protein and such.

Do tigers or lions need a justification for eating meat? No. Then why should we need a justification for eating meat?

Sure we could supplement the proteins we get from meat through some other artifical substance perhaps but where's the need for that when we might as well get it naturally through meat, and its far tastier might I add.

 

[Prince_Imrahil]

Because the way things are doesnt mean thats how they ought to be silver. Instead of accepting ya we eat meat its right, make sure your ave reasons or why its right or your argument gets nowhere. (like that lame rape analogy)

Comparing us to oter animals is a weak argument. Remember, we're more rational!

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

Remember, we're more rational!

I'm not too sure about that. Sometimes I think staying in the trees would have been the smart move (or non-move). Many of the problems we are able to solve today are caused by ourself.

Hmm, topic not really suited for this thread. Move along, nothing to see here

 

[silver 2039]

Because the way things are doesnt mean thats how they ought to be silver. Instead of accepting ya we eat meat its right, make sure your ave reasons or why its right or your argument gets nowhere. (like that lame rape analogy)

Thats how it was meant to be, why go against nature? We are omnivores accept it, we can eat meat and plants, and the ideal diet should proabaly have both.

Comparing us to oter animals is a weak argument. Remember, we're more rational!

So? We're hardly better than any other animals, we still retain the same base biological insticts.

 

[aneeshm]

The rape analogy is not supposed to equate meat eating and rape. It is supposed to act as a counter to the oft-repeated argument that "It's natural, so it's right."

 

[aneeshm]

Thats how it was meant to be, why go against nature? We are omnivores accept it, we can eat meat and plants, and the ideal diet should proabaly have both.

We are also rapists. Should we accept that?

We go against nature all the time, such as when we do not rape, or when we do not cannibalise other humans. Just because something is natural does not make it right.

So? We're hardly better than any other animals, we still retain the same base biological insticts.

How does that negate the fact that we restrain some of those instincts because our morality tells us that the actions resulting from giving in to them are not right?

 

[silver 2039]

We go against nature all the time, such as when we do not rape, or when we do not cannibalise other humans. Just because something is natural does not make it right.

No, but how is meat eating wrong?

How does that negate the fact that we restrain some of those instincts because our morality tells us that the actions resulting from giving in to them are not right?

Morality is nothing but a concept created by society for the purpose of the betterment of said society. Rape is wrong because it undermines the concepts of marriage, and family and such and is thus detrimental to society. That is what society has decided. How is the eating of meat harmful to society?

 

[LucyDuke]

I also abstain from eating endangered species like tiger or shark.

That's quite the principled stand you're taking there, huh?

The rape analogy is not supposed to equate meat eating and rape. It is supposed to act as a counter to the oft-repeated argument that "It's natural, so it's right."

The rape analogy is a bad analogy. For one thing, every time you bring it up, it comes across as though you're equating them, regardless of your intent. You can't make it without sounding as though you're equating them, which erodes your credibility.

We don't rape people because it screws up our social structure. If women can expect to be raped, they aren't going to be so enthusiastic about participating in our society. We need to respect them so that we can work together to survive, because it's a lot easier to survive when we coöperate. We don't have the option of explicitly coöperating with animals. Our social structure isn't threatened by eating meat. It is threatened by raping people. So you're right, that argument "it's natural, so it's right" doesn't stand by itself. It's got context, though. It's natural, and it doesn't harm humans, so we're okay with it. I won't say "it's right", but eating animals is definitely less wrong than raping people in this context.

 

[Bozo Erectus]

Oh but we do care about the animals ... the cute ones that is.

Like I love the argument from the likes of PETA, we shouldn't eat tuna because those poor dolphins also get trapped by the nets. Not a single tought for all those tunafish trapped by the net.

Thats true. Me personally, I couldnt care less about a tuna. To me its the equivalent of a bug. A wet bug. But a dolphin is a fellow sentient creature.

 

[Shaihulud]

Everytime i eat an animal, it goes to heaven, or reincarnates as a human.

 

[nc-1701]

No, because I can justify eating babies with as El_Mac said. A better justification would "I don't give a damn about animals"

 

[sonorakitch]

Maybe.

My wife and I eat one of our babies every nine months using the same reasoning. We figure the baby wouldn't have been conceived if we weren't planning to eat it ...

(baby-back, baby-back, baby-back ribs)

Hahahaha..one of the funniest yet on the CFC! Give El a medal...

~Chris