Is Siam any good?

[something92]

So i play with my brothers which means you pretty much just don't choose the same civ as anyone else, because that's just lame xD (they play as France, Rome/Mongolia and Russia typically).. I'm just wondering if Siam is any good and how essential are city state alliances in any game? Typically we play against AI but i'm sure that'll change eventually. Why is that i just don't seem to be satisfied with any of the civilizations? Do i just have too particular of a play style?

 

[joncnunn]

In Single Player, Siam is top tier. When playing them you want to ally with a Martime CS ally ASAP to start taking advantage of your UA

 

[jbsoccer]

Siam is fantastic in single player. 30-50% of your culture comes from city states as them. I was getting like 500 culture from city states on prince as Siam. (granted I allied every city state that gave culture) but It is a nice boost, I'm not completely sure how it would play out on multiplayer. I think if your brothers leave you alone you will win before they do if you stay focused, don't attack more then once(puppeting a city for free culture with no policy inc) and try to keep up research so you don't get ousted of certain cultural wonders.

 

[Silverfuturist]

One of Siam's perks is free Wats (their version of the university) when timed right (there are posts on here about it.) The legalism policy under tradition gives up to 4 free culture buildings... the Wats give culture, so you can get them free if you have built the other culture buildings (monuments, temples, monestaries) when you select the legalism policy.

 

[IgnatiusTBarfat]

One of Siam's perks is free Wats (their version of the university) when timed right (there are posts on here about it.) The legalism policy under tradition gives up to 4 free culture buildings... the Wats give culture, so you can get them free if you have built the other culture buildings (monuments, temples, monestaries) when you select the legalism policy.

I thought was changed in a patch?

 

[joncnunn]

The cities now must also have a Library with the patch.

I thought was changed in a patch?

 

[Haig]

Something92,
tell about your playstyle so someone can recommend a civ for you or tell if Siam suits your style.

Siam is good if you throw gold at city-states and use them as your allies, also their unique unit, "Stompy", is great..

 

[jerbacca78]

The cities now must also have a Library with the patch.

Using this strategy (and std speed emperor), what is a good target turn to pop 4 wats?
Also, when do you build NC? with 3 or 4 cities? I would think that 3 cities is generally the preferred target unless there is a really good city location (including new lux or first available iron) that could be targetted by another civ.
Also, is this strategy (or variants) good for all siam victory types? or just non-domination types? My question here is that you are committing early to a relatively long path that forces you to ignore some early warfare techs, so you wont be starting any classical wars. However, after this openner, you will be setup with both science + culture, so that could allow for a late medieval/rennaisance war. Along this same line, is getting horse/iron a priority in this strategy? or should we just focus on warriors, and pike, and a few archers for military (depending on your neighbors)?

 

[Dreadnought]

Top-tier in single player, but relatively weak in multiplayer. No strong player will allow you to ally with a bunch of city-states uncontested; that being said, their UU is pretty strong, but their UB comes a little late.

 

[Artingel78]

So i play with my brothers which means you pretty much just don't choose the same civ as anyone else, because that's just lame xD (they play as France, Rome/Mongolia and Russia typically).. I'm just wondering if Siam is any good and how essential are city state alliances in any game? Typically we play against AI but i'm sure that'll change eventually. Why is that i just don't seem to be satisfied with any of the civilizations? Do i just have too particular of a play style?

You are kidding Siam,France and Songhai are top 3 civs.
Siam is perfect and you must be a total idiot to lose with them on your playing level.
They are absolutely perfect for every victory.Naresuan's are perfect Wats are perfect UA is perfect they are no deniable Best civ in howl game.

For Multipalyer too.
IF you get Naresuan's before enemies get Rifles you can clearly take them.
I don't want to say something92 is idiot i want to say it's pretty impossible to lose with with Siam. I'm sorry.

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[sukritact]

Siam's my favorite civ (although being Thai i definitely am biased) , I find it's great for cultural victories and is an amazing civ in single player. I especially love stomping everyone with naresuan's elephants!